Mr.Picard You Were Out Of Line

Your comments spiderjohn, were on mark: dysfunctional, one- dimentional, biased, irresponsible, looking out for the beast, not the citizens. This showings just continue to make Middletown look like the backwoods, corrupt city it is. Living a nightmare---the strike that wiped out the city, then the housing meltdown, now raising water, anything, to keep the beast fat, lazy, and fed. Its pathetic it tolerated, and seeing this on local news is watching a train wreck. Go for it Vet, my point was there are more serious violations I've read than the embarrassment of the "shut up stupid, do you know I'm Dan Picard" outburst. What a soap opera Middletown is, and city hall just laughs, and thinks whom is next in line, with the six figure pay-out and retirement.

Here is the link to the video

Randy...how did you get your hands on pvt e-mails between council members? If you said so I missed it. Mike Presta- I don't know you personally, but I enjoy your writing skills tremendously. That except where you offer your services to a female council member should become legendary... Very well done!

VietVet wrote: This has never been tried to my recollection.

http://web.archive.org/web/20060614115014/http://www.middletownrecall.com/

Bill wrote: Judy will be gone by 2012.

danpicard wrote: Apparently none of you notice that Mr. Laubach interrrupted me and attempted to prevent me for expressing my opinions.  I guess I am just suppose to keep thoughts to myself...oh yeah, apparently you guys don't like that either since it demonstrates that I am not doing the "work " of Council.... His attempts to silence me. other Council members and City Staff have been far more offensive than anything I have ever done!

I think Mr Picard needs to grow up. Act normal for a change. Stop the big man with a stick complex. We the people of Middletown has seen your dark side. It's Time for a Recall

I've said it before and nobody ever comments on it, but to resolve this problem we need to reduce the terms to ONE YEAR. They can keep running year after year, but each term should be one year. Big cities are usually 2 years. Why does Middletown force the citizens to be stuck with council members for 4 whole years? Congress only gets 2 at a time. In a small town, one year is enough to show what you are made of and it would give us the opportunity to vote them out if that is needed.

acclaro- you paint a sad, but perhaps true picture of what Middletown has become. We have a choice here even if one thinks it is all over and any effort is futile. We can take your advice, resign ourselves, as you have, that there is nothing we can do and not even try. We can adopt their reasoning and direction for the city and "go along with the program" (hard to imagine most on this forum want that) or we can actually try to be pro-active (perhaps futile as you and Spider think it is), gather recall lists, submit for consideration and see what happens. To date, we have all gathered here to comment, complain, gripe, discuss, present evidence, facts, charts, graphs, copy articles from various sources and tell the world why we think things are so screwed up in this town, but there is one thing that none of us has done (at least successfully) and that is to organize a recognizable group that actually has their sh-- together and has challenged the enemy with any clout behind them. I see alot of smart people on this forum. I see people who know how to research and "dig out" the evidence to support the positions of most who post here. I read comments here that tell me that there are some people in this city who are not insiders, but know insider things that none of the general public is aware of. We have, on this forum, a group of people, including yourself, that are highly knowledgeable, highly intelligent, highly informed about an array of topics and yet, we can't seem to organize to develop a gameplan to overcome the people who control the town? The only difference between their success as town destroyers and our lack of success in preventing them from destroying the town is that they are organized with the purpose of controlling the town, and we can't get all of the discontent people in this town (including us) to organize. They have a purpose (control) - we have the rage to change it but not the committment. The people in this town are "ate up" with apathy when all it would take is an effort from them to change their unhappiness by recalling, voting in the right people and having those "right people" purge the city building. We can start it here on his forum with some committment and some effort and solicit support from the general public by creating our own counter-information, refuting the cities crap they throw the people. The highlights of this forum needs to go out to the general public. We only have a small % of the population that reads this forum. What about the other 95%? They only get the city skewed info. How about we give them what is really going on in this city on a more wide-spread basis? Would it fire them up? Would they be as angry as we are? Would they want to do something about it? Maybe not, but we don't know for sure unless we try, do we? Just a thought. Who wants to begin the organization? Comments/ suggestions?? Any interest at all? JMO

Vet and acclaro, you are both correct. For many years I tried to get our citizens to see just where our city was headed. The criminals that have destroyed our city rely on the following:

Nick_Kidd wrote: Vet, acclaro, Mike Presta, Vivian and others: There are a ways to get rid of the members of council and criminals in the city building! It is time to hold them personnally responsible for their criminal conduct. I have been gathering evidence of criminal activity for many years. Just within the last few weeks the crooks in the city building have started violating the civil rights of many citizens. I think council and the city employees should take personal responsibility for these violations. If we file many multi-million dollar civil rights violations lawsuits against them personally, they will gladly remove themselves. Also, at the last coucil meeting, council voted to steal more money from the citizens by charging a minimum "rain" tax on real estate where  water is shut off. If you remember when a previous council told us that the storm water sewer charge was "federally mandated charge"? That was a lie! That was a sceme hatched in our city building to steal more money from the citizens, because council can raise water and sewer rates without a vote of the citizens. This money should go into an enterprise fund along with the increases in water and sewer charges. These funds are already overcharging and the extra money being skimmed off. The sewer separation fund was also an enterprise fund that hundreds of millions of dollars are missing. After the election, I think that we should petition the auditor of the state to come in and audit the enterprise funds(along with all the other funds) and get the attorney general to prosecute all those involved in over charging and misappropriating the money from these funds.  An added thought, if we got rid of just one inspector from city payroll, the savings on their benefit package would pay to open our pool. The saving on their paycheck would maintain our park and cemetery.

Hey Nick,

Paul Nagy wrote: Hey Nick,         Do you remember when we were running that we got called into a meeting by Les landen to insultingly tell us what we could and couldn't say and do in our campaigns and/or if we sat on council. Mr. Landen must have forgotten that class with this council. Paul Nagy

The City Law Director seems to only apply the law or the Code of Ethics when it suits him or his handlers.

We consistently see him approve, overlook, or acquiesce illegal and unethical behavior.

It is time for him to go, but for his pension to stay. He should not be allowed to resign. He should be fired for cause and either the County prosecutor or the State AG should determine if a criminal case could be made.

Scott-Jones in his E-Mails. He is out of control in his superiority type of attitude. This is not in a discussion mode, but rather an argumentative style that will discredit what little credibility council has built and create the uneasy feeling that seemed present on the council tape as it played out. Ms. Scott-Jones' assessment of the 4 to 3 vote on a repetitive basis is correct. It appears, whether they want to admit it or not, that there are two camps on council.