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acclaro
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 01 2009 Status: Offline Points: 1878 |
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Not in my opinion. I believe around 2000, a group decided they would run for council, and would put in place, MMF, and place those in positions having influence in the city, that would support not only council, but the school board members in a network, chamber of commerce leadership, etc. This was determined who would initially run, and you know who that was, and who became Mayor. From there, MMF arose, the BOE joined forces under one roof at Donham, and money was passed from city to MMF. Council isn't driven by MMF, MMF is driven by council. Council
drives city direction, instead of city leadership driving, and getting nod from council. MMF gets notice who existing councils want on council when they leave. I have heard Steve Bohannon is next man up. Nice guy. To be clear, this structure is the same as the county GOP. Everyone gets in line, nods who's turn it is, or where support goes. That instills no competition in primaries, or little that don't have a chance at winning, and the same elected individuals are elected cycle after cycle, creating a rut, no progress, same status quo. City council with MMF, took a page out of cty GOP playbook, and it works to perfection. It doesn't matter. Train left station, no alteration, no change, and this is how it is going to be for decades. Mike Presta gets it, as do many. Why bother anymore. Too many on bench, and no time to waste on slaying windmills. As someone wrote, at least this group doesn't have the drama and complete lack of confidence around with LW, DS, TM, and others. |
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'An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.' - Winston Churchill
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VietVet
MUSA Council Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
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I was hoping this is not the case but I fear it is. It is sad to see the stranglehold on the city, especially from the classless group of people that occupy the power positions. It is sad to see a once proud city disappear right in front of one's eyes and die a slow death under this abuse.
Not sure about Bohannon. Isn't he one of the Section 8 landlords, and if so, really can't respect that. Making money off of a program that has helped "ghetto down" the city. Not a fan of anyone connected to this program. So it has come to this for most in the community.....IE- give it up as to hope for change. Care not, ignore the incompetence, ignore the town destruction, ignore the seemingly endless rose-colored lies? Just become callous to all that goes on with a "who cares" attitude. Don't know that I can at this point. Frustrating to those who still care. |
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I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over.
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spiderjohn
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 01 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2749 |
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How many and who on MMF neither work or live in Middletown currently?
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acclaro
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 01 2009 Status: Offline Points: 1878 |
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sj, 3 out 5 council members, Judy Gilleland, Tom Swope, from FBT, and the new public safety director, Mr. V, are members, Denise H., her assistant, Fishbaugh, Sawyer, and others. The majority live in city, including Nix from AKS, and of course, KC lives in Maineville (or Morrow). Their highlight was the Greenville trip a year ago. I though Carole Turner from the Atrium was a member, but evudently not, and she lives in Springboro (CEO/ Pres of Atrium). Pearce lives in Middletown near JN.
MF heats up around election time, and is passive mostly. They will throw a positive spin to support the city when needed, in articles. They are the caboose, council is the steam engine with the conductor. Support only, not guiding the train. Oh well, saying the same over, but that's the role of MMF. Nix keeps the jook into AKS, a good thing. JS gave up selling his house and moving to Cali some time ago. Few outsiders but KC, and you know his history. Gotta run. Digging moat deeper and adding alligators and a wider bridge to cross.
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'An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.' - Winston Churchill
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TonyB
MUSA Citizen Joined: Jan 12 2011 Location: Middletown, OH Status: Offline Points: 631 |
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I find it very odd that Factguy would once again state how confident he is in getting any tax levy or charter passed by just funding an election when there will be low turnout. Is this really what democracy in America has become? Why is no one proposing a change to all this "special election" raping of the taxpayers wallet? Why let a small minority of citizens raise your taxes? How is it ethical for your elected leaders to do this (don't start with the legal bs because there is a huge difference between "legal" and "ethical")? When is enough, enough?
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Factguy
MUSA Resident Joined: Dec 07 2009 Status: Offline Points: 217 |
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TonyB, the county is able on a Presidential election day, to get around 25-28% of registered voters to vote. The election statutes have authorized elections not held in November for years, in other months if the organization wanting the vote to take place pays for the added cost. In an off November election, voter turn-out is between 12-16% of registered voters. With such low turn-out in any election, there aren't going to be sufficient enough individuals or organizations to change the statutes, Term limits on politicians, flat tax, and other priorities are above what you describe. Never will come about.
Moreover, here's the mantra of a local musa poster. " I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over." There hasn't been a recall in Middletown. Ever. Apathy rules. And we're happy to win by getting our voters out.
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TonyB
MUSA Citizen Joined: Jan 12 2011 Location: Middletown, OH Status: Offline Points: 631 |
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Factguy: First get your facts straight. According to the Butler County Board of Elections, 71% if registered voters cast ballots in the November, 2012 election. That's when charter changes and tax issues should be on the ballot,;when a majority of citizens vote, not on low turnout elections where a minority of voters can override the majority. What you're saying is that you're happy that the citizens of Middletown are apathetic so an "organization" can circumvent the will of the majority and do whatever it wants.Why should organizations get to choose when something gets voted upon? And why have representatives if they can't effectively manage the funds that they're given? Once again, this is government of the few for the benefit of a few and it is what is ruining Middletown and our country. Keep counting on apathy Factguy, the alternative would not be something you would enjoy.
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VietVet
MUSA Council Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
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FactGuy:
"Moreover, here's the mantra of a local musa poster. " I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over." There hasn't been a recall in Middletown. Ever. Apathy rules. And we're happy to win by getting our voters out." Never a recall. True, and a shame because there have been elected people over the years who have richly deserved to be recalled and sent packing. Some are currently in that position. "Apathy rules". Also true. In epidemic proportions in this city and it is helping to ruin a once fine town. "We're happy to win by getting our voters out". Yep, and all it takes is a small contingent of your voters to offset any and all weak attempts at resistance to your ways and to meaningful change. You have no competition for any of your candidates. They win by default as the "other team" never shows up. A victory every time, even though the end result is probably not what the majority of the people want and definitely not what they need in elected officials. We will never know the real feelings of the community as long as the majority stays away from the voting booth. All we have now is the knowledge that a small percentage of the potential voters will vote for city-programmed candidates and no independent has a chance to win with the current power system in place. Nice of you to recognize my "mantra". Mercy. Still need that time and place to meet. |
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I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over.
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Factguy
MUSA Resident Joined: Dec 07 2009 Status: Offline Points: 217 |
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November 3rd, 2015. Voting day. 12 noon. You name the precinct.
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VietVet
MUSA Council Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
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A picture of Scott Nein? Have you finally revealed yourself Factguy? If so, now I know why we have been receiving the responses that we have from you. You always did play the old "support your local leaders" role in town, since your time on the school board. Have seen you at Meijers and Krogers shopping with the wife.
What was your reasoning for the attempt to reveal the true identity behind my screen name while you also operate with a screen name? Not really above board, now is it. You and I have been through the old days here. Just a few years apart in age aren't we? If so, we must have had drastically different experiences while growing up here because we couldn't have ended up any further apart on our opinions of how this city has regressed. You appear to support anything and everything they do and always have despite the downhill direction this city has taken over the last 4 decades. You play the game well and it has gotten you much. It is too apparent not to understand what has happened. Why are you so eager to condone what is transpiring here, knowing the difference in Middletown now as opposed to back then? Why are you so willing to agree with the focus and direction of the city leaders, knowing this town is headed for disaster? I can be there on Nov. 3rd, but not at noon. Working hours won't accommodate the noon timeline. Make it after working hours after 5PM. The place? You name it. |
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I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over.
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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Factguy
We are still waiting on all those multi million dollar investors that are going to save your Downtown Dream. |
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