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A picture of Scott Nein? Have you finally revealed yourself Factguy? If so, now I know why we have been receiving the responses that we have from you. You always did play the old "support your local leaders" role in town, since your time on the school board. Have seen you at Meijers and Krogers shopping with the wife.

What was your reasoning for the attempt to reveal the true identity behind my screen name while you also operate with a screen name? Not really above board, now is it.

You and I have been through the old days here. Just a few years apart in age aren't we? If so, we must have had drastically different experiences while growing up here because we couldn't have ended up any further apart on our opinions of how this city has regressed. You appear to support anything and everything they do and always have despite the downhill direction this city has taken over the last 4 decades. You play the game well and it has gotten you much. It is too apparent not to understand what has happened. Why are you so eager to condone what is transpiring here, knowing the difference in Middletown now as opposed to back then? Why are you so willing to agree with the focus and direction of the city leaders, knowing this town is headed for disaster?

I can be there on Nov. 3rd, but not at noon. Working hours won't accommodate the noon timeline. Make it after working hours after 5PM. The place? You name it.    

FactGuy:

"Moreover, here's the mantra of a local musa poster. " I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over." There hasn't been a recall in Middletown. Ever. Apathy rules. And we're happy to win by getting our voters out."

Never a recall. True, and a shame because there have been elected people over the years who have richly deserved to be recalled and sent packing. Some are currently in that position.

"Apathy rules". Also true. In epidemic proportions in this city and it is helping to ruin a once fine town.

"We're happy to win by getting our voters out". Yep, and all it takes is a small contingent of your voters to offset any and all weak attempts at resistance to your ways and to meaningful change. You have no competition for any of your candidates. They win by default as the "other team" never shows up. A victory every time, even though the end result is probably not what the majority of the people want and definitely not what they need in elected officials. We will never know the real feelings of the community as long as the majority stays away from the voting booth. All we have now is the knowledge that a small percentage of the potential voters will vote for city-programmed candidates and no independent has a chance to win with the current power system in place.

Nice of you to recognize my "mantra". Mercy. Still need that time and place to meet.    

TonyB, the county is able on a Presidential election day, to get around 25-28% of registered voters to vote. The election statutes have authorized elections not held in November for years, in other months if the organization wanting the vote to take place pays for the added cost. In an off November election, voter turn-out is between 12-16% of registered voters. With such low turn-out in any election, there aren't going to be sufficient enough individuals or organizations to change the statutes, Term limits on politicians, flat tax, and other priorities are above what you describe. Never will come about. 

sj, 3 out 5 council members, Judy Gilleland, Tom Swope, from FBT, and the new public safety director, Mr. V, are members, Denise H., her assistant, Fishbaugh, Sawyer, and others. The majority live in city, including Nix from AKS, and of course, KC lives in Maineville (or Morrow). Their highlight was the Greenville trip a year ago. I though Carole Turner from the Atrium was a member, but evudently not, and she lives in Springboro (CEO/ Pres of Atrium). Pearce lives in Middletown near JN.

I was hoping this is not the case but I fear it is. It is sad to see the stranglehold on the city, especially from the classless group of people that occupy the power positions. It is sad to see a once proud city disappear right in front of one's eyes and die a slow death under this abuse.

Not sure about Bohannon. Isn't he one of the Section 8 landlords, and if so, really can't respect that. Making money off of a program that has helped "ghetto down" the city. Not a fan of anyone connected to this program.

So it has come to this for most in the community.....IE- give it up as to hope for change. Care not, ignore the incompetence, ignore the town destruction, ignore the seemingly endless rose-colored lies? Just become callous to all that goes on with a "who cares" attitude.

Don't know that I can at this point.

Frustrating to those who still care.

acclaro, with all due respect......

You state.....

"MMF doesn't run city council, sorry to disagree yet again Vet,".....

Didn't you just support my contention with.....

"MMF was created, by members on council and the future council, by a Star Chamber of leadership desiring to execute a long-term strategy they deem desirable. No current council member will be supplanted until they determine they no longer wish to serve. And when they do, current members are ready to be put in place, hand-picked by current council members, and supported through a pass through of cash, by MMF."

Doesn't "hand-picked council members" and "supported through a passthrough of cash" support my statement that the MMF people control who goes on council and what they will support while on council?   

over the hill wrote: We FINALLY have Gilland out of there now get rid of mayor and ASJ along with Picard and you might get somewhere. JMO

ASJ stopped being effective years ago. Was hoping in the beginning that she would be different when she asked questions. Now, one of the rubber stamp crowd. Sad to see. The only one that had promise of never yielding was Josh Laubach and he was maneuvered out on council with the MMF voting block doing their job, ruining his re-election. No hope for change as long as that happens.

Ya gotta include the Mulligan brothers too. Both of them should be ashamed to have any connection with the current city condition (particularly Larry), as they both have as much time in this town as I have and both remember how nice the town was at one time.

Also need to rid the city of the Law Director (another one who has lived here during the good times) and, while we're at it, need to wave bye bye to the city manager (an outsider who doesn't know what it was like living here years ago). He just flat out doesn't get it as to the personality and type of city this really is. He's no better than Gilleland was. Just as destructive, in a different sense.

The MMF should be ashamed of themselves too. People like Ken Cohen (and, again, L. Mulligan), who were around when the city was thriving, should know better than to have guided this city to it's current condition. Other MMF'ers, who were around in Middletown's heyday, should also feel some remorse, but I doubt that they do or they would never have agreed with the current direction.

Never have said once Mr. Presta supported past council decisions, just the past ones in last 8 years. They are cleaning up a mess they did not make. On AKS, to be clear, like their attitude and ability to make the best deal to meet their needs. Said previous council members set stage for what current council members are left to negotiate. 

Factless-guy must be a switch-hitter!!! He seems to be swinging from both sides of the plate lately!!!

Same people in Admin
How long has the mayor been on Council?
Policies seem continuous
Jmo

People like Williams, Marconi, etc were clowns and an embarrassment to their council positions.

Time out.