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VietVet
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"Moreover, you have admitted by elections, your opinions are of the minority of those working and living in Middletown, as the outcome of elections has been supportive of candidates running for office, whom I add, represent the majority of their constituents." I have admitted nothing of the kind. Do you really think that the election of the current crop of puppet candidates represents the wishes of the majority of the people in this city? On the contrary, the election of the current group of council and school board members represents a very small faction of inner circle interests sponsored by the MMF, sanctioned by the city building people and rubber stamped to publicly keep the program moving legally by these council people. Council people aren't required to be independent thinkers. No need. They are directed by the Mulligans, Ken Cohen and the others on the MMF board and other "movers and shakers" who have their special agendas which do not include the majority. How in the hell did you arrive at that conclusion? The elections were won by candidates who were not challenged, had the financial backing of the MMF , inner sanctum of city building supporters and the voting block that shows at every election to keep the MMF kingdom intact. It doesn't take a large voter turnout to have the MMF candidates win. That is due to the non-involvement of the majority of potential voters here. The size of your MMF voter block is sufficient to beat any outsider candidate. Past elections have proven this. If more of those who remain silent and disinterested in change would register and vote these MMF candidates out of office and vote for those who run who wish to end the current cluster, the direction of this city would change for the better. You and your buddies are safe as that scenario will never happen. Your pals are banking on the apathy to continue your quest to total the town. Makes it easy for you and all who think as you do to win. No, I'm frustrated because there is never a serious challenge put forth to oust the people that you support. I want a housecleaning on council, the school board and the city building. Those in office are not good for this city and it shows. Just open your eyes for once and see the results of their ideas. The city/schools are a shadow of their former selves and the city is posturing on ghetto status. |
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Factguy
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Admittedly, you stated there were legitimate elections. These elections were won by candidates honestly. Moreover, you have admitted by elections, your opinions are of the minority of those working and living in Middletown, as the outcome of elections has been supportive of candidates running for office, whom I add, represent the majority of their constituents.
Moreover, you admit your viewpoint, or opinion, represents the minority, not the majority, of the current state of affairs in the city. You are therefore complaining because you are a minority.
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VietVet
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That's right Factguy, and we all know what happens around here during election time for council and school board don't we. The fact is, when it's voting time, we are usually stuck with those who support the current city agenda and are sponsored by the MMF to allow them to continue to have in place those who will take direction from the few, the proud, the inner circle currently controlling things in this town. You know it. Everybody knows it that gives a dam. We also know that the vast majority of citizens of voting age could care less, are not registered, and wouldn't get their sorry butts off the couch to go punch some buttons at the voting booths. That and there is no one decent, who knows the problems of the city and wants to tackle the dominant voting block in town to win a seat on council or the school board. When a person out of the club has announced their intention to run, the wheels are set in motion to eliminate the threat as the MMF pulls from their supply of yes people to dilute the vote, spreading the paltry amount of votes over many candidates with one of their many winning the seat. We know that is the way it works here. Basically, this is the reason we are stuck with the same old faces who rotate between the school board, council and some of the many committees in town. Ann Mort is a perfect example of the roving candidate as she has been in many positions, some won by election and some by appointment. Look at Tyus on the school board. He was defeated and still came back by appointment. Keep the same faces in the controlling elected positions to continue the game plan in place that continues to drive the city/schools in the downward spiral it has been in the last four decades. Unless you have lived here during that time span and before the destruction started, you don't know the whole situation and can't make a comparison of then and now. |
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Factguy
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Change?
That's what elections are for, and Middletown has elected both new and additional council members and board members repeatedly. The majority of Middletown has changed, through voting, and elected new officials.
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VietVet
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MIDDPROUD:
Simple answer as to why we don't all march into Adkin's office or address council......They don't want to hear from us. We are the enemy in their opinion. Some of us have attended a council meeting or two and have addressed council for our three minutes of fame. We, of course, were stopped exactly at the three minute mark by Mayor Lawrence Mulligan (one of the problem children by the way) as they didn't like what they were hearing. If we were supportive of their ideas, we would have been able to speak as long as we wanted as it helped massage their egos as the city supporters do. Many glossy, embellished, rosy presentations from the friends of city hall have been made in front of council and they get all giddy with delight as the glowing remarks are laid upon them. Not so when we show up. No, like you have done, the city puppets and their supporters can read this forum and some do. They even enlist their blind, easily swayed hacks here to attempt to intimidate, anger and frustrate us at times. The school board does it too, usually during levy time. Doesn't work. All that happens is that the city supporters incur our wrath here, we are accused of not going along with the program which is a cluster and the verbal sparing between them and us usually ends up in a stalemate. Factual data has been presented here when the city does something stupid, usually on a frequent basis. Doesn't do any good. The city plants pay no attention to factual data as they attempt to twist and distort our positions against the stupidity. Usually, nothing is resolved here. Just a place to vent frustrations as we all know it is a waste of time trying to talk to them in person. |
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MIDDPROUD
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Maybe it is time for a change!
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over the hill
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People were shouting from the roof tops to please listen to the people before you empty our coffers on pet projects downtown, before they decided to get in the real estate business, before the Sec8 fiasco. Many of us have been before council on various issues. They chose NOT to listen to common sense, that doing what was best for the ENTIRE city instead of a chosen few would bring more rewards in the long run. Maybe council might want to read a few suggestions that have been posted here on this blog. JMO
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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We all know the roads are bad, the schools are bad, lack of police and fire protection, heroin problem ect.. These are all items everyone of us know exist. All of you need to tell the city what they can do to raise capitol to improve and or solve all of the issues.
Hmmm....City Hall didn't want to hear from us BEFORE they spent all the money, raided all the funds and gave away all the buildings downtown. |
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MIDDPROUD
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I thinks its great that so many people on this site have great OPINIONS/IDEAS about all subjects city related. Why don't all of you get out from behind your computer monitors and get in touch with Mr. Adkins and let him know how you the tax paying citizens of MIddletown can solve all of the currant/future problems.
We all know the roads are bad, the schools are bad, lack of police and fire protection, heroin problem ect.. These are all items everyone of us know exist. All of you need to tell the city what they can do to raise capitol to improve and or solve all of the issues. You elected five people to council, to be your voices and they elected Mr. Adkins six total people to solve this cities problems. There are 48,000 additional minds/ideas out here that need to be heard. You all need to show up at city council meetings and tell the six in charge that you think needs to be done to solve these problems. This is our city, we should be voicing our ideas. If we feel our leaders are out of touch with the direction we want our city to go, then tell them face to face!
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wannaknow
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I lost a child to drug overdose. Some of you shouldn't be so quick to judge. She was in a car accident and got hooked on the pain medication that doctors prescribe so freely. Street drugs were cheaper so of course that's the route she chose. My thoughts are the doctors are partially responsible b/c they want to give people a pill to fix everything. The schools should educate the children so they know the dangers of drugs. They could tell the counselors about mom and dad's meth lab or whatever.
As a former bar owner I have seen the druggies peddle their goods. Needless to say I have zero tolerance for any type of drug use, probably why I'm out of business. The motels in town are full of the drug users, buyers and sellers. Route 4 is the pipeline bringing that stuff in from Dayton. It is so hard to get people in this town motivated to do anything. We see that at the polls. Putting drug addicts in jail does nothing but stop them for a bit. The Narcan gives them another day. A very small percentage of drug addicts recover to lead productive lives. Of course b/c we are human we continue to make an effort to save them. The education of our children needs to start much earlier to be effective. This epidemic is not just in Middletown. It's only going to get worse. |
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VietVet
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Perhaps a breakout between the poor community of Middletown as to heroin users as compared to a more upscale community with a higher class resident clientele and less low income/ Section 8 such as Lebanon and go even higher by throwing in a Mason or West Chester may tell us something. Incidences by city as to Narcan administration frequency, theft numbers by drug addicts and heroin city deaths may tell us whether the low income/Section 8 influence directly relates to heroin use as it applies to the status of a town's economic level. Dunno. |
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I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over.
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bumper
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i really don't see how anyone being able to hold a real job doing this !! IMO if someone is really that stupid to get talked into doing this crap!! or whatever, i really hate seeing my $$$$ being wasted on saving them just to give them another day to do it again!!
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over the hill
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Maybe some statistics on the number of heroin users and Sec 8 recipients might shed some light on your hypothesis. Or would that be profiling? Don't know
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VietVet
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I guess only city leaders have the solutions to the heroin problem in town. After all, they have been running the ship the correct way for decades haven't they and their ideas and decisions have created a great city in which to live. Apparently, the citizens have been excluded again as to any input in the town in which they live.
The religious people think the solution is to gather the entire city to pray for these people, calling on that "higher power". Good luck in attaining a decent number to participate. Most in town would rather sit on the couch rather than to vote or get involved in other ways. Some are here for the fed handout programs and could care less what happens in town. The medical people want to set up clinics, have classes and motivate the users to stop. The police are strained as to responses to the fallout of the heroin usage as they steal to finance their habit. The fire medics are strained from the additional runs to administer Narcan to the ones who could care less about their lives. All of this coming as Adkins trims down the fire workforce. Let the overdosed heroin user pay for the Narcan treatment and the trip to the hospital, not the taxpayer. Adkins and crew created this residual scene of heroin use by placing the welcome mat out for all low income/Section 8 participants and all that that brings to town. Now, he and the others who wanted the low income abundance, want to fix the very problems they fostered and look like a hero in doing so. Who's fooling who here Adkins? Jail the repeat offenders who steal and use. Let them pay for their own Narcan treatment and hospital stay. No more freebies on the taxpayer. Stop the cottling. Establish laws for the number of times they are attended to for their habit. Use the courts to oust them from the city if they are repeat offenders. We don't need more problems like this here. Lord knows, we have enough created by the leaders to deal with. |
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Vivian Moon
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Posted: 7:04 p.m. Monday,
Jan. 26, 2015 Leaders share ideas to tackle heroin in
Middletown
By Rick McCrabb Staff Writer Community leaders hope they took another
step toward ending, or at least reducing, the heroin epidemic in the About 40 people representing a cross
section of the community gathered for six hours Monday at “We are in this for the long haul,” Adkins
told the group at the conclusion of the Heroin Summit, a work session for
community stakeholders to set goals and begin developing a community-wide
response to dealing with the heroin issue. “This will not be quick. It won’t be
three meetings and, ‘Thank God, we solved heroin.’” He said if the city can reduce deaths
related to heroin by 50 percent that would be “a pretty remarkable
accomplishment.” Adkins said in 2014 the city spent $1.3
million for the police department, including patrols, special operations by the
narcotics unit and jail corrections; $167,000 by the fire department; and more
than over $18,000 for indigent burials of drug overdose deaths. From 2000 to 2012, there was a 366-percent
increase in drug overdose deaths in Jackie Phillips, city health director, said
heroin addiction is an epidemic that’s impacted the entire “We have more of those factors,” she said. Adkins said a follow-up meeting is set for
Feb. 23 at the hospital and he hopes to continue the momentum that started
Monday at the summit, which drew members of the medical community, church and
city leaders, business leaders, police and fire officials and elected
officials. They talked about the importance of
prevention, treatment and education. They said the city needs to educate its
youth about the dangers associated with heroin, install a centralized phone
service to direct those with questions regarding heroin, and open a one-stop
center so addicts can receive in- and out-patient treatments. “We build jails for these people,” said
Mike Gmoser, Warren County Sheriff Larry Sims said his
jail, which is sometimes referred to as a “detox center,” has had success
giving inmates shots of Vivitrol, which eliminates the high associated with
heroin. He said the inmates receive up to six shots, and the cost a one-month
prescription is about $1,200 “You can only help those who want to be
helped,” Phillips said. Ron Ward is one of those who wanted helped,
he said. Ward, 46, who has been clean from methamphetamine for two years and
six months, said he started Celebrate Restoration out of his “I just love the city, and I want to see us
get better,” he said. Marquita Turner, chief nursing officer at
Atrium, and Lamar Ferrell, pastor of “We have to call on this higher being, the
healer to fix this problem,” said Turner, who added the “just say no” anti-drug
message needs to be more consistent. It’s important, she said, to get into the
homes of addictive parents and make sure their children don’t make the same
decisions. Ferrell said since heroin addiction is
considered a disease and those impacted need healing, there is something people
can do that is free. He’d like for the community to meet once a week, at the
same time, the same place, and pray for those shackled by heroin. “We will ask God to do the impossible,”
Ferrell told the group. “We are dealing with impossible situations, but we are
not dealing with a God who is stumped. He’s saying, ‘Trust me.’”
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VietVet
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Let's see. The city leaders create an environment that fosters the drug scene as they invite more low income/Section 8 to town. Most are responsible and do what they are required to do but it is the activity of others who only add to the malaise in the city and bring in their pals from outside the city to add to the crime scene. The drug scene gets worse as the heroin usage increases, prompting more Narcan responses to retain the lives of the users who overdose. The police are overtaxed even more while the officer numbers go down. The fire dept, with it's reduced numbers must respond to the increased medical runs due to overdosing. Increase the workload and lower the numbers to do it. Incredible lack of logic.
Not trying to mask any callousness here. IMO, I don't want to see one more attempt to revive people on heroin who don't care about their lives anyway. Why keep bailing them out if they have a desire to risk their lives with each drug usage? Why should the city incur the cost of Narcan, pay the medics to respond and administer it and make the attempt to care for people who could care less? The city leaders make a habit of creating a problem, realize what they have done, which is always too late, then search for the answer to fix it. In this case, not creating the environment for drug usage to thrive would have been a good start for a reduction in the problem. The magnitude of inviting all not wanted in other cities has had devastating effects. Instead, they saw only revenue money for the city and not the residuals that the idea has brought. Wrong city path coupled with narrow sighted thinking only seen in Middletown.....again. |
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Vivian Moon
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