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Richard Saunders
MUSA Resident Joined: Jun 30 2010 Status: Offline Points: 232 |
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Posted: Dec 13 2012 at 6:27am |
More tax money for facades.
This time to Outside the Line restaurant and Art Central Foundation, 18 N. Clinton St.: $15,000 for a new facade. How many freakin' addresses does Art Central Foundation have, and when did they get into the restaurant business?
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VietVet
MUSA Council Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
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One heck of a run on sentence oversight. Kinda missing some punctuation too.
Let's see......you said "BUT I TELL YOU HUD WILL NOT ALLOW ANYBODY TO REMOVE THE FAMILIES ON THIS PROGRAM OUT OF THE CITY OF MIDDLETOWN THEY HAVE AS MUCH RIGHT TO BE HERE AS WE DO A SOME HAVE MORE BORN AND RAISED IN THE CITY PLAYED SPORTS AND CALL THIS THERE HOME" Nope, gotta disagree with you on this one oversight. The city may not be able to remove the current Section 8 families, however, the city has the right to let the unfilled vouchers lapse and as the Section 8 blight leaves the city, simply not renew/replace with a new client. Attrition. Will take awhile but the city will eventually reduce the number to a more reasonable 600-700 Section 8 clients. We are inundated with an overabundance of this blight now. Bad for the city. Oh, and no, the newcomers to our city, drawn here for the handout known as HUD Section 8 do not have as much of a right as the folks like myself that were born and raised here to come in and "ghetto" my hometown up. I strongly resent that being done to this town. Gotta work and get it yourself instead of relying on others as a career goal.Personally, I'd like to see them all gone and this town clean up it's image from slumville to a more respected town. Need to upgrade the clientele we attract here......at least to the middle class level. Not gonna happen with these handout programs. |
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Pacman
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612 |
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Oversight,
Research Section 8 funding a little further on The City disburments Contract with Nelson & Associates. Also, would you mind unlocking the Caps key. There are plenty places to research here on this forum on Section 8. Lots of research to be done. Section 8 voucher holders can live where they wish. Why they would choose Middletown with a limited non-exited job outlook is beyond me. I would head to a least Hamilton just on the chance the job out look is better. Pacman |
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digger-2
MUSA Immigrant Joined: Oct 18 2012 Status: Offline Points: 33 |
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Hasn't the Section 8 manager's paycheck risen sharply in the past 3.5 years? Wasn't he making about $47,000 before when he worked in the Prosecutor's Office? Doesn't he get about $95,000 now?
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OVER SIGHT
MUSA Immigrant Joined: Oct 21 2012 Status: Offline Points: 12 |
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FOR GET THE MAYOR'S SHACK HAVE YOU SEEN THE PLANNING AND ZONING DIRECTORS
DOWN THE STREET MR MARTY KHOLR'S MANSION DAMN WHAT THE HELL DOES THIS GUY MAKE A YEAR THE PROPERTY IS IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND THAT PAINT JOB MUST HAVE BEEN A EASY 100,000.00 THAT HOUSE IS BIGGER THAN THE SORG MANSION. I GUESS ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IN THIS CITY IS RUN EVERY SMALL BUSINESS OUT THE DOOR AND YOU GET THE BIG HOUSE ON THE BLOCK. |
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OVER SIGHT
MUSA Immigrant Joined: Oct 21 2012 Status: Offline Points: 12 |
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WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THEY HAVE BROUGHT IN A DIVERSE GROUP OF PEOPLE THRU SECTION 8 MAKING IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO MEET NEW PEOPLE AND YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT IF THEY NEED MONEY THEY CAN FIND IT. VIETVET DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY DOUG ADKINS IS BEING PAID THOUGH THE SECTION 8 PROGRAM I THOUGHT HE WORKED FOR THE CITY OF MIDDLETOWN BUT HERE RECENTLY DISCOVERED THE CITY IS BILLING BACK THE PROGRAM FOR A LARGE PORTION OF HIS SALARY DAMN NOT ONLY IS HUD VOUCHERS GETTING THE WOOL PULLED OVER THERE EYES BUT PAYING THE MAN TO DO IT. HOW CAN HE BE BILLING THE MPHA PROGRAM IF HE WORKS FOR THE CITY OF MIDDLETOWN CONFLICT OF INTEREST UNDER THE HUD CONTRACT AND HE KNOWS IT AND WHAT IS HIS POSITION WITH THE PROGRAM? I THINK THAT HIS SECRETARY OVER THE SUMMER GOT A NEW TITLE THAT WOULD ENABLE THEM ALL TO USE THE FEDERAL FUNDING TO MAINTAIN THE REVITALIZATION DEPARTMENT T PUT MORE STRAIN ON THE INVESTORS OF PROPERTY IN THE CITY NOT ONLY THE SECTION 8 PROPERTY OWNERS ALL OF THEM YOU KNOW THE MASTER PLAN WE HAVE ALL HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT AND WOW HIS DEPARTMENT JUST SO HAPPEN TO GET A LARGE CHUNK OF THAT GRANT MONEY TO USE AGAINST WHAT IT IS SUPPOSED TO HELP BETTER THE COMMUNITY. NEVERLESS OUR GREAT CITY EMPLOYEES WILL ACCOMPLISH THE DESTRUCTION OF THE MPHA SECTION 8 PROGRAM IN THE CITY OF MIDDLETOWN BUT I TELL YOU HUD WILL NOT ALLOW ANYBODY TO REMOVE THE FAMILIES ON THIS PROGRAM OUT OF THE CITY OF MIDDLETOWN THEY HAVE AS MUCH RIGHT TO BE HERE AS WE DO A SOME HAVE MORE BORN AND RAISED IN THE CITY PLAYED SPORTS AND CALL THIS THERE HOME WHO IS THE CITY TO TELL THEM THEY HAVE TO LEAVE PAGE 59 UC REPORT 2009 READ IT AND YOU TELL ME WHO WROTE DICTATED THAT PAGE IN THAT REPORT THAT PERSON HAS KNOW RIGHT TO BE INVOLVED IN ANY FEDERAL FUNDED PROGRAM OR ANY OVERSIGHT COMMITTE MEMBER WHO AGREES WITH THAT PAGE SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE MOST OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT GETS IN THERE WAY THIS GROUPS WAY ARE BEING PICK OFF ONE AT A TIME AMAZING IF YOU LOOK HARD ENOUGH INTO ANY BUSINESS YOU FIND PAPER MISTAKES DOUG ADKINS AND THE MIDDLETOWN POLICE STATION ARE BLAMING THE INVESTORS FOR THERE OWN MISTAKES IN THE PROGRAM BEEN THERE DONE THAT
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VietVet
MUSA Council Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
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I like this wanna. Very perceptive. Now, perhaps if the Econ. Dev. people, who visit this site, read this, they can incorporate the items mentioned here in their "Welcome To Middletown" brochure. Based on this list, the city leaders are "taking care of business" after all. Great game plan for the city. |
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wannaknow
MUSA Resident Joined: Feb 21 2009 Status: Offline Points: 138 |
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A few good things about Middletown;1 With the exception of the intersection of Towne Blvd and Rt 122 there are no traffic jams in Midd., hence you can get out of town quickly to shop in the surrounding towns. 2 If you do have to travel in Midd. there are plenty of ploaces to park.3 The laws and rules change at a whim so we are not bored with the "same old thing". 4 Our leaders are accomplished and creative, they can find money when needed to fund their current activities plus they allow us to be a part of that thru our tax dollars. 5 There is a multitude of empty homes and homes for sale at a reduced cost b/c so many people want to relocate.
6 The city has successfully eliminated a number of businesses that polluted our air. 7 They have brought in a diverse group of people thru section 8 making it possible for us to meet new people. 8 Our town is not made insightly by all those business advertising signs. When ppl on 75 pass by our ramp all they see is tranquility. I love Middletown!!!!!! Oh, I have property for sale if anyone is interested.
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Richard Saunders
MUSA Resident Joined: Jun 30 2010 Status: Offline Points: 232 |
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I noticed that the mayor's South Main Street house was being repainted last week. I wonder if this was part of the "facade grant" program?
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swohio75
MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 13 2008 Status: Offline Points: 820 |
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The total of the facade grant is $50,000 NOT $650,000.
And if memory serves me correctly, a potion of CBDG funds are proposed in the 2013 to be used towards the $2 million in street paving.
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Mike_Presta
MUSA Council Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483 |
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CBDG funds could be used for street repairs and re-paving!!! Year after year, city officials have been saying that there just isn't any money available for street repairs or repaving, yet this money has been sitting, languishing for years...waiting for the "right" pet project to come up so that it could be "found, tucked away in one of our other funds" while our streets keep crumbling!!! Our city council members asked NO questions and stated NO objections when these funds were directed towards downtown and South Main street...AGAIN!!! Our city council members asked NO questions and stated NO objections when these funds were directed towards REGULAR MAINTENANCE items on homes and businesses downtown and on South Main Street while the streets in the rest of our city are reaching third-world street status!!! Either the citizenry must wake up, rise up, and change up the City Council, or our city will die and the citizens will deserve exactly what they will get.
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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This doesn't sound like a new "facade" to me. This sounds like normal building maintenance, the same kind of maintenance work that everyone needs to do on their homes. This is the same kind of maintenance that, a few years ago, the city cited 2,300 homeowners for, yet, instead of citing these building owners they are giving them our money to perform the work. What's up with that? |
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Pacman
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612 |
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409, Thanks for the pic!!
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409
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Mar 27 2009 Status: Offline Points: 1014 |
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I do not have any posted online. I do have the original full size files. One of these days, I will separate the Middletown pictures from my personal pictures. It will take some time as I have thousands to sort through.
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Neil Barille
MUSA Resident Joined: Jul 07 2010 Status: Offline Points: 238 |
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Anyone else notice that the Cincy St. sign has gone up on the downtown building. I was a little surprised it wasn't bigger.
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swohio75
MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 13 2008 Status: Offline Points: 820 |
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It's going to be single family home, from what I undertstand. Owner occupied.
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Rhodes
MUSA Resident Joined: Jun 18 2010 Status: Offline Points: 209 |
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409, Do you have your Middletown photos online anywhere and do you have larger versions of the photos?
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Rhodes
MUSA Resident Joined: Jun 18 2010 Status: Offline Points: 209 |
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The way they have filled in the front display windows it almost looks like it's going to be a restaurant.
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409
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Pacman
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Where's 409 with the pics??
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Rhodes
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Right, I read all of that in the original post. Just wondering what business is going in there after they get done remodeling. It's gray now and the front door has Middie purple trim painted on it.
Also, isn't this the Barnitz House? Since when did it become the Brown House? |
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Richard Saunders
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swohio75
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Former Brown House—68 South Main Street
Repair/reline box gutters, damaged storefront windows, damaged roof. Repaint exterior of building in historic colors. Project Cost $19,525 Requested $9,762 Awarded $5,000 |
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Rhodes
MUSA Resident Joined: Jun 18 2010 Status: Offline Points: 209 |
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Does anyone know what is going in the building at 68 S. Main? Can't figure out what they are doing there and haven't read anything on it yet.
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Mike_Presta
MUSA Council Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483 |
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I thought that our financial expert on council ( Mayor Lawrence P. Mulligan, Jr.) said that there were things that he "doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them."
Certainly the "facade" program would qualify as one of those things, wouldn't Mr. Mayor??? Exactly how much "return on investment" have we taxpayers gotten for the last two facade programs??? Mr. Mayor??? Anyone???
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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