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Mike_Presta
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Posted: Nov 28 2011 at 3:38am |
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Of course, there is a city council meeting this
Tuesday. (Usually there is NOT a third
meeting in the month.) Nothing is scheduled except for the second reading, and the
votes, on several resolutions and ordinances that have been previously
discussed. Of course we never know when
they may try to slip something by us, or even substantially change one of the
previously “read” items, yet still call it the “second reading” and pass it
without the proper number of votes required for an “emergency” to still have it
take effect before the end of the year. I feel certain that the new council members-elect will be in attendance to keep an eye on them to make sure that they don’t put anything over on us taxpayers!!! |
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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VietVet
MUSA Council Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
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"I feel certain that the new council members-elect will be in attendance to keep an eye on them to make sure that they don’t put anything over on us taxpayers"
Mike, I believe you forgot the on your last sentence. |
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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Big Section 8 Meeting on Nov. 30 at the Middletown Community Center. Landlords and tenents are not happy with Mr. Adkins or Nelson & Assoc. I'm still betting that the total Nelson & Assoc bill will be greater than what we were paying CONSO..
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Mike_Presta
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Mike_Presta
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Mike_Presta
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Last
Saturday afternoon, for the first time since the election, I was able to get
together with my entire campaign staff for a post-mortem to discuss what we did
wrong. When I asked what everyone
thought about my opponent’s message, I think that Finley Jean said it
best: “Buh-ba buh-ba buh-ba, buhba bu-ba
buh ba.” The twins concurred, but Leo
took my cane and, holding it like a staff, just muttered something that sounded like "Gandolf"
and shouted (I think): “This shall not pass!”
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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LMAO
MUSA Citizen Joined: Oct 28 2009 Location: Middletucky Status: Offline Points: 468 |
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VietVet
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"Middletown City Manager Judy Gilleland refused to talk to WLWT about why the public comment portion of the meeting was pulled. Smith said he was told Gilleland felt Tuesday's meeting was a continuation of the last meeting in which members of the public already spoke"
ANOTHER REASON WHY GILLELAND NEEDS TO BE REMOVED FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S JOB AND REPLACED WITH A MORE CIVIL-MINDED INDIVIDUAL WITHOUT THE ATTITUDE. NO ONE ON COUNCIL WITH A SPINE TO INITIATE HER TERMINATION? FUTILE ANYWAY AS BECKER, MULLIGAN, PICARD, ALLEN, AND NOW MORT AND THE REST OF THE PUPPETS WON'T MAKE WAVES. HELL, THEY'RE JUST LIKE HER......ARROGANT AND BOUGHT AND PAID FOR BY THE MMFers. |
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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Vivian Moon
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LMAO-Firefighters, residents and business owners are expected to show up to Tuesday night's meeting of the Middletown City Council, but members of the council won't hear what they have to say. |
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LMAO
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Vivan,I voted for MIKE and Mr.Nagy.Im not one bit suprised what are spineless ones have done and will continue to do.Kind of reminds me of when SUNCHOKE was on the front burner.
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ground swat
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Remember there are other methods of voicing your concerns. Also this just didn't drop out of the sky last week. The damage done .The council has stated how sorry they are and it pains them too make cuts. If you didn't know this was coming you need to wake up!! What do you do to fix it now? Council needs to Stepup the Revenue train. Should of, could of, would of ain't cuttin it anymore. Who is our salesman for this city? The government drug addiction has to end. What is the Admin. Doing to increase Revenues?
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Stanky
MUSA Resident Joined: Jul 04 2011 Status: Offline Points: 193 |
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There are plenty of ways to make voices heard -- SoundOff, letter to editor, emails to council, heck even form your own version of the MMF you scream about on here. But when it comes to not being able to strut, showboat, and make veiled union thug threats on TVM, everyone is then up in arms. This kind of posturing is what gave us the Laura Williams and Schiavone fiascos, along with the many goofs who tried to play to the camera and blabber on for minutes on end during Comments section of Council meetings.
Those who most want to get on the air tonight are the same types whose behavior has resulted in Judy's action here. Reap what you sow. |
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acclaro
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 01 2009 Status: Offline Points: 1878 |
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I agree with Stanky completely. There is no need to showcase Middletown's version of the Wisconsin statehouse. That's all it would be, and I believe the majority of residents know Middletown must make drastic cuts. What is most disheartening is $1.6 Mm is spent on Weatherwax, $2 Mm on road repair. Where are the proper priorities. Sorry about the lack of the show tonight, but we saw enough of that during Issue 2 campaigning and the mess in Wisconsin. Free speech doesn't entail making a mockery and play out of a bi monthly meeting.
No need for the show: council will use it to rally the passage of the 1.75% levy, and tee up a 2.0% probably no later than 2014. |
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taxed2death
MUSA Immigrant Joined: Oct 26 2009 Location: middletown Status: Offline Points: 34 |
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Well when the public saftey levey ends in 2014, I would have no problem voting to renew it as long as
I know its going to the Police and FIre only. This is going to get worse before it gets any better I hate to say.
I just don't get this citys managment or its council?
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I hope it gets better soon!
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Mike_Presta
MUSA Council Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483 |
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Taxed2death,
Just as a matter of clarification: The present 0.25% public safety payroll tax expires on 12/31/2012. This is a fact, NOT hearsay, assumption or conspiracy theory. The only way that this would change would be by a vote of the citizens of Middletown prior to that date. I hope that this helps.
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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Middletown council cuts police, fire jobs
By Andy Sedlak, Staff Writer Updated MIDDLETOWN — Middletown City Council Tuesday night narrowly approved a 2012 budget that reduces public safety personnel by nine firefighters and seven police employees. Council members were told that recent state cuts — $3.2 million — take effect over time and a deficit in excess of $1 million is projected in 2013.
Remaining council members have said deeper cuts would need to be made in the next budgeting process, if not the current one. Moving forward, Mulligan said the city should look at different models to provide services. “I saw an article — and I think I shared it with most of council — that there was news of local agencies hiring firefighters and Also, a public safety levy will go before voters next year. The current quarter-percent income tax is set to expire at the end of 2012. Mulligan said the city will “need to hear from citizens.” The form and shape of the levy has yet to be decided. “We could increase (the amount), look at a property tax levy, split police and fire — there are a number of different scenarios,” he said. “We decided it was prudent to (first) focus on this year’s budget and then look to the levy. “We want to be clear about the message we’re delivering,” he said. Contact this reporter at (513) 705-2871 or andrew.sedlak@coxohio.com. |
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retired co
MUSA Resident Joined: Feb 25 2009 Status: Offline Points: 53 |
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Our City council is living in a fantasy world. I'm being realistic why did we need to buy all those buildings for Cincinnati State? Why do we keep Weatherwax sell it ,Why do we need the airport as a major hub who has came in no freight or passenger lines.Why did we need to fix all thoses store fronts on central in old downtown? I've seen nothing downtown to bring people into Middletown to shop.Plus we ahve a mall thats like a ghost building no new tenanats people are shopping elsewhere But a few months ago they wanted to spend several million dollars to make it comparable to other Open malls.Then we have to make a bike trail and rumor of a dog park . What this amounts too is spending momney foolishly thingds we can do without can wait use that money for our saftey folks Police and firemen . If they want to spend money on something try getting some jobs here in town that pay more than minimum wage . Finally get rid of Queen judy what do we elect a mayoer and council for but to run the city her sl.aary alone could keep 2 firefighters on the job.
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ground swat
MUSA Citizen Joined: Mar 31 2011 Status: Offline Points: 367 |
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I never realized there was a "Super balanced budget" is that different then a balanced budget? I would like the Admin. to work off a good ole fashion balanced budget. Did all of council get the same memo or what. In regards to citizen comments its real simple you have 3 mins. And as was shown last night the mayor allowed people to go over as did Bob Wells and wonder boy Shiavone which then allows the meeting to get out of hand don't blame agenda how about some adult being able to run a meeting correctly.
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acclaro
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Most still don't get it. Council will try a 2.0% levy in 2013. All this posturing on "cuts" is just to set that up. Read again people, you should know this by now:
“We could increase (the amount), look at a property tax levy, split police and fire — there are a number of different scenarios,” he said. “We decided it was prudent to (first) focus on this year’s budget and then look to the levy. “We want to be clear about the message we’re delivering,” he said. |
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taxed2death
MUSA Immigrant Joined: Oct 26 2009 Location: middletown Status: Offline Points: 34 |
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Thanks Mr Presta. And I would still vote in a nother levy as long as I know it was giong to Police and Fire only.
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I hope it gets better soon!
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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“If we continue down this path we will be broke in 3 years” said council members.
Hmmm…isn’t this the same City Council that voted for the purchase of all the Thatcher buildings for The City has lost millions of dollars on this downtown folly already and will continue to do so over the next 5 years. Within 5 years they will be asking we the taxpayers for a 4 million dollar bond to demo these same buildings. Please don’t forget that City Council passed a 1.2 million dollar bond for the demo of the City Garage and the Swallen’s Building getting the downtown area ready for the I was watching a council meeting several months ago and they approved about $250,000 for uniforms. I do not remember the department these uniforms were for but don’t we pay these city employees enough money to buy their own uniforms…if we are going broke? Do we really need such a large fleet of City owned Cars…if we are going broke? Bottom line…it’s time to cut a few of these little PERKS...if we are going broke. Over the past two years I have posted the spending of numerous programs and the waste of our tax dollars. It is time that we the tax payers demand that these funds be used to give us the biggest bang for our buck…if we are going broke. Now the City Council has cut the Fire and Police Departments so we the tax payer will once again pass another Safety Levy….because we are going broke. Well guess what City Council….WE THE CITIZENS OF |
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middletownscouter
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$1.6 million for a municipal golf course but we cannot find about $50k to operate a municipal pool. But we were sure able to find the $70k (or whatever the total was) to demolish the pool! Good call on that one.
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Vivian Moon
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GroundSwat - I never realized there was a "Super balanced budget" is that different then a balanced budget? |
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acclaro
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This is the same song and dance Bill Becker was reciting when he tried to rape the city with a 2.25% tax. They are putting 80% of the street budget, just into Weatherwax. The airport, awaiting some F500 company in 100 years, that will appreciate the magnitude of having an airport nearby. I mean, it really is such an inconvenience to travel to Springboro or West Chester isn't it?
The Super budget is like the Super Committee, it is a play ground. It is code meaning we aren't really going to cut these positions, but we can say we are, so the tax levy is maintained at 1.75%. I need to retain the fellow that always runs so effectively the DEFEAT campaigns in West Chester to help defeat the tax levies and the school's planned levy to replace the schools. West Chester gets it. Middletown buys into these phony rhetoric. A super budget means fake cuts expecting the 1.75% levy to pass. You know what Middletown's biggest problem is? It spends and wastes money non stop, the taxpayer is losing his shirt on his property value, and the city plays these silly games called "supper budgeting", which means if you don't pass the levy, we might have to make a cut or two. Where is the reneginnering, the process efficiencies? Where is the consolidation.? The city is SO BROKE it owns a golf course, an airport, and wasted at least $1 Mm on a few classes for a two year community college. It pays 80% of the total street budget, into the golf course? Citizens, may I ask...what is wrong with you all? Are you awake, do you care, or can you think? |
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