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Mr. Laubach.....my questions/observations to your responses.....

1. The airport- you stated all parties have moved forward....IMO,a generalization. What, in your opinion will be the outcome of the airport operations? Do you see it expanding? Do you see a more cooperative attitude coming from the city avoiding the fiasco that just occured? What role does the city see itself playing in airport operations? Will the city bow out and let the airport be an independent operator or are they obsessed with control? I like the comments by middletownscouter concerning Sunset Pool. I still don't understand why the city couldn't have mothballed the pool in case interest was regained at a later date. Activities are cyclic. The pool could have been one of those events.

2. You are on board as to the success of PAC and Cincy State indicated by your positive comments. You must know more than we citizens then as to the certainty of CS signing a meaningful contract with the city as to a long term agreement in building occupancy. I (we?), don't have any indication as yet by the dialogue that CS will do anything as yet as CS President Owens still has to present it to the deciding powers that be on the board. Has the PAC made enough progress to convince you it is a momentum builder for the downtown? Staying open with activity one or two days a week doesn't seem to be active enough to matter, does it? I don't see it as being a "ball for fire" for activity as yet.

3. What is in the works now to change the image, selling our location and bringing jobs to town? IE...what is the city doing NOW, specifically, to rectify these issues? Is there a gameplan published from the city manager, econ. dev. dept and city council that one can read to see how they are going to accomplish this? If so, where? If not, we have more rhetoric but no real action.....just talk., don't we?

4. OK, we have seen what the VA Clinic, the Atrium, the 75 jobs from Suncoke, PAC, B.St.Bash, (Cincy State has yet to materialize, therefore, only speculation as to what impact this venture may have)has contributed to the city. Certainly welcomed, but not earthshattering. Did Wausau Paper create more jobs with the additional investments? This may be good in considering the "staying power" in Middletown for Wausau, but it may have not done anything for additional jobs that we so desperately need. Many positives.......some minor positives, perhaps?

5. There is no way out of getting rid of this city destroying program? We can't opt out and tell them to stop sending fed money as we are cleaning out all Section 8 to the absolute minimum required? We have no options at all in removing this plague from our city? It is KILLING this city if for no other reason than from an image standpoint. The last thing this town needs is to add to the already established "welfare cesspool" image other communities have established for us. We have managed, thanks to former and the current city leaders, to establish ourself as a low class, ghetto type town and the over-saturation of Section 8 has just added icing to the cake. You couldn't have made a worse decision than to bring this garbage into town IMO. WHY, other than fed money? Holding landlords accountable and monitoring Section 8 participants does nothing to address the real problem....over abundance. JMO



I appreciate the dialogue with my elected official. At least you are willing to communicate and that is light years ahead of anything most on council are willing to accomodate. I respect you for that. Thank you.
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So all of council knew what was happening over at the airport.  Everyone is happy that we have moved forward.  It's not about the airport, it's about a trail of bread crumbs leading back to the second floor.  Mr. Laubach thanks for your answers. Won't lie or do I want to be rude but your answers seem to not fit your platform of two years ago.  I do agree on the pool issue.  But the taxpayers do deserve a explantion of who makes the "Call" on goverment services that we have to support. The world is changing, are we ahead of the curve?  Downtown???  What about the highway? Are all parties on broad to what it will take to maintain a high profile Entrance?  Are you Happy with Neyer?   Thank you for your commitment to my city and the four years you have dedicated to making a positve impact for my kids!
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Josh,
 
How did the Airport situation get resolved so quickly?  all of dated of the emails were dated Aug 22, 2011. How was a deal struck before labor day?  It appears some people were out of the loop.  Just curious.
 
Concerning Section 8, has anyone attempted to contacted our officials elected to house of representatives and the Senate?  Also has the city looked into hiring a lawyer to investigate HUD's claim that we must maintain the current voucher level?  Our elected officials are here to help us with situations like this and if we must write letters to rectify the situation, please let us know.  If the section 8 is not rectified in the next few years, and by that I mean the voucher level going down to 450-500 vouchers, Middletown will never recover or be brought up to the 21st century. 
 
How many section 8 voucher holders have moved out of the city of Middletown because of the additional incentives put into place almost 1 & 1/2 years ago.   It was also claimed 1 & 1/2 the vouchers #'s would be down significately by summer 2011, has this occurred? 
 
As far as Sunset Pool is concerned, Council made the right decision.  Attendance was dwindling, and for the 6 yrs I've lived here, all I've heard about is trying to raise money to keep the pools open and the citizens that wanted them never stepped up to the plate.
 
Concerning jobs, other that the East end, does Middletown have the land (which I hear the don't) to bring in a factory or distribution center to create 500-100 jobs??  The last city I lived in had a population of about 100,000 people.  It had 0 industry, 0 warehousing, 0 big factories, 0 steel mills, etc, etc. What it did have was a hospital, and a desirable city to live in every way.  99% of the jobs in this city were service jobs,  IE Mall, Large movie theater, Restuarants, Up to date Strip Center, Car Dealer ships, The largest employer in this city was the hospital.
 
We I left they had; GREAT SCHOOLS, 4 SUPER Walmarts, 12 Grocery Stores the size of Kroger, entertainment for people of all ages, shopping of every type imaginable, you get the idea.  The most important thing is that this is a place that people wanted to live and felt safe in.
 
And personally this is what I feel Middletown needs to strive for on a smaller scale.  I do not think Middletown will ever creat enough jobs that the residents need or want and are capable of performing with just the East end and Atrium area.  Most of those jobs will go to people up and down I75 with a higher level of education than the majority of Middletown residents hold.  The days of factories and Blue collar jobs coming to Middletown by the thousands or even the hundreds is over. 
 
With the situatuion in Washington the fact that the country is about $15 trillion in debt Middletown can no longer sit around and wait and hope for the next hand out from Washington before they action to pull themselves out of the mess that they've created.
 
Josh, Thanks for your response on this meeting.  Hope to see you at your next meeting.
 
 
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Pacman

Mr. Adkins was hired for the Section 8 position because he was a lawyer.  The truth of the matter is the City of Middletown can not undo the mess they have made by increasing the number of Section 8 vouchers in Middletown. It will take years before Middletown can be brought back into balance by middle class jobs creation.

The word on the street is the entire Section 8 program under the new vender is now a total mess.  Mr. Adkins is to give a full report at the Sept 20th council meeting.

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Mrs Vivian,
 
I understand Mr Adkins is a Lawyer, but he is not a specialist in this field and in dealing with HUD matters in Washington DC. 
 
Also, what about getting Boehner and other representatives involved.  Now, they may not want to listen to city council, but if we can get a letter campaign in the thousands to Boehner and others they may listen to the citizens of Middletown.
 
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Or just give it to the section 8 slumlords
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Pacman - Boehner couldn't find Middletown with a GPS, a map and a million letters. If you sent him some campaign cash, however;  he'd find someone who knew the way!!! lmao
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Originally posted by TonyB TonyB wrote:

Pacman - Boehner couldn't find Middletown with a GPS, a map and a million letters. If you sent him some campaign cash, however;  he'd find someone who knew the way!!! lmao


Speaking of the Boehnermeister, pride of West Chester/denier of the rest of Butler County, Middletown has lost another opportunity to rub elbows with the high rollers in West Chester, including Johnny.

Today's Journal....

Boehners to serve as celebrity chefs for foundation's Key Event

WEST CHESTER TWP. — Community members with a healthy sense of helping the community and equally large appetites are invited to enjoy a “home cooked” meal from a professional chef at a location that’s the next best thing to being in your own dining room and without the cleanup hassles that follow

The foundation just recently announced that U.S. House Speaker John Boehner, R-West Chester Twp., will cook dinner, with is wife, Debbie serving as a sous-chef for the event. Wow, what a treat!

Tickets for the events are $100 per person, $200 per couple or $250 to dine with a specific couple. How much to sit with our esteemed rep? (Hint: for cryin' out loud, don't tell him you're from Middletown)

Ahh crap....ya think they could have lowered the price to 2 bucks or less so that some of us poor folks could have attended. I bet most of us would have liked to have smooged with these folks. With these prices, it pretty much wipes out anyone going from Middletown. Hey, maybe that was their intention. Sure would have been nice to enjoy a meal prepared by YOUR area rep JB. How about a busload of rowdies representing Middletown? Now that's classy.
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Originally posted by VietVet VietVet wrote:

Originally posted by TonyB TonyB wrote:

Pacman - Boehner couldn't find Middletown with a GPS, a map and a million letters. If you sent him some campaign cash, however;  he'd find someone who knew the way!!! lmao


Speaking of the Boehnermeister, pride of West Chester/denier of the rest of Butler County, Middletown has lost another opportunity to rub elbows with the high rollers in West Chester, including Johnny.

Today's Journal....

Boehners to serve as celebrity chefs for foundation's Key Event

WEST CHESTER TWP. — Community members with a healthy sense of helping the community and equally large appetites are invited to enjoy a “home cooked” meal from a professional chef at a location that’s the next best thing to being in your own dining room and without the cleanup hassles that follow

The foundation just recently announced that U.S. House Speaker John Boehner, R-West Chester Twp., will cook dinner, with is wife, Debbie serving as a sous-chef for the event. Wow, what a treat!

Tickets for the events are $100 per person, $200 per couple or $250 to dine with a specific couple. How much to sit with our esteemed rep? (Hint: for cryin' out loud, don't tell him you're from Middletown)

Ahh crap....ya think they could have lowered the price to 2 bucks or less so that some of us poor folks could have attended. I bet most of us would have liked to have smooged with these folks. With these prices, it pretty much wipes out anyone going from Middletown. Hey, maybe that was their intention. Sure would have been nice to enjoy a meal prepared by YOUR area rep JB. How about a busload of rowdies representing Middletown? Now that's classy.
 
Someone check maybe John takes Food Stamps LOLLOLLOL
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Tony B,
 
When I contacted Boehner's Office with a personal problem with the Feds, I was contacted the next day by his office and the matter was resolved quickly.
 
It seems that there is always someone that can fault when someone trys to find resolutions to the city's problems.  This is a major reason why nothing ever gets done in this city.
 
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So what your saying PAC is try picking up the phone.  Ma-Bell still works.................How could that be?
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