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VietVet
MUSA Council Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
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Any reason why Middletown leaders couldn't do the same thing here if Cincy State doesn't follow through? |
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SupportMiddletown
MUSA Resident Joined: Nov 01 2009 Status: Offline Points: 181 |
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Even if restoration costs more than new construction, there is a 20% federal non-competitive tax credit and 25% state competitive tax credit that could be leveraged to drop rehabilitation costs below new construction. The character of the end product will be much different that what you could deliver new.
Alternatively, if a new facility was desired, the Manchester could be rehabbed for another use such as senior housing. In Hamilton, the former Anthony Wanye Hotel (Hamilton's answer to the Manchester), was long-vacant and near demolition, but preservation groups saved the building in it last hour and it was converted 3 years later to senior housing using LIHTC tax credits and the federal historic tax credit.
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TonyB
MUSA Citizen Joined: Jan 12 2011 Location: Middletown, OH Status: Offline Points: 631 |
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squeemy - Why is it so much more to renovate? More importantly, why are you going to tear down an existing building when there are empty lots across the street from the Manchester ready for immediate construction? What's the point in tearing anything down?
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squeemy
MUSA Resident Joined: Dec 23 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 125 |
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I just wish those at the time of the post office move had done a traffic study...
but anyway, is there anything significant about the Manchester that would deem it irreplaceable? is it architecturally significant? enough so to warrant spending more to renovate than what it would cost to replace it? |
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viper771
MUSA Resident Joined: Mar 16 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 221 |
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Why did they tear down the old post office anyway? I saw some old post cards of it and it looked really cool. A lot of the old downtown is gone now, compared to what was there. The buildins from around Verity to Main are some of the last great old buildings that are left. The Seabald block is just a shadow of its former self :(
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squeemy
MUSA Resident Joined: Dec 23 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 125 |
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yep - not everything that gets torn down gets replaced with something better - Middletown's post office comes to mind. gotta love that parking...
so the Manchester can come down but only if something better replaces it? not necessarily a hotel? |
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VietVet
MUSA Council Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
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Slowly, this town is losing it's identity. With all the demo going on, the town is literally sending it's past to the dump in trucks. Problem right now is that when something around here is torn down, there is nothing to replace it with new construction. Look at what they have torn down since they started this mass demolition of the city. For the most part, empty lots, while "crossing their fingers" that something, anything, will build in the empty spaces.
No, with the track record of this city's pathetic econ. dev. plan (actually no plan at all) I don't wish to see another building fall to the excavator and dump truck. Not until they have a commitment to occupy the land that will be left when our history goes to the landfill and when they come up with a competent, doable plan to replace their mass destruction. How do other cities, who are as cash strapped as this one is, manage to save and rejuvenate their older structures with character? This city can't get out of the way of it's own ineptness due to incompetency from the city leaders. They are changing this city alright. And it ain't pretty and for the better either. Disgusting. |
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Bocephus
MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 04 2009 Status: Offline Points: 838 |
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I would be ok if they tore down the whole downtown area starting with the city building
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squeemy
MUSA Resident Joined: Dec 23 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 125 |
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if it's found that the Manchester is too expensive to renovate or that renovation costs exceed those necessary to build new, would you support tearing it down?
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