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viper771
MUSA Resident Joined: Mar 16 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 221 |
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I would have definately paied the city money to salvage what I could out of that building to help with the restoration of my house.The city could make some extra money and I would be able to save some history while I was at it. I was actually looking for tin ceiling like that!! :(
That Bundy building that was next door looked really cool. I wish it was still around. |
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spiderjohn
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 01 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2749 |
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Duncan couldn't pull it off at their prior location at Manchester and Charles, but was able to parlay that junk property into this prime parcel(at our expense--I believe the city has between 1.5 and 2 mill $$ in this project so far with nothing to show for it). So--now our ED Dept. has created two new super-center service station/convenience stores in the old downtown area(still with no other businesses or jobs) and is still begging for a super market(dream on--duh). So--how will this new glut of convenience retail affect Mid-Town Drive-Thru, Rite Aid, D's Market, Casablanca Market, NYC Market and my business? Any impact studies or visits? None my way. I gues we will trade off new low-end jobs for lost jobs in that area.
Duncan asked me to take over their last project--I turned them down because I would have been competing with myself. If Kasich is elected gov.(good possibility), he says that the proposed rail system will be immediately canned.
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Dead man walkin'
MUSA Resident Joined: May 06 2010 Status: Offline Points: 51 |
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1210.03 HISTORIC COMMISSION (e) General Powers and Duties. The Historic Commission shall have the following powers and duties, in addition to those otherwise specified: (1) The Historic Commission shall conduct a continuous survey of all areas, places, structures, works of art, or similar objects in the City which the Commission has reason to believe are or will be eligible for designation as historic sites, landmarks or districts. (7) Its unique location or singular physical characteristic representing an established and familiar feature of the City... Didn't you just mention several " physical characteristics representing established and familiar features" of an historic and unique nature in your previous pity party posts in this thread?
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"Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil" (Psalm 23)
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SupportMiddletown
MUSA Resident Joined: Nov 01 2009 Status: Offline Points: 181 |
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I guess we will have to agree to disagree. I believe the new ordiance only applies to city designated historic districts and landmarks. The urban design zoning that covers downtown along Central Avenue (which is what I think you are referring to) is not a historic district.
I'm not arguing if the demolition would or would not be permitted under the ordinance, I am simply arguing that the building is not eligible for the historic commission's consideration as it is not in a historic district or a designated landmark.
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SupportMiddletown
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I agree and find the entire plan to build a gas station over an entire city block at the entrance to downtown to be disappointing.
My take is that the city has targeted areas that it is promoting historic preservation, namely the two historic districts and the core of downtown between Verity and Main Street.
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Dead man walkin'
MUSA Resident Joined: May 06 2010 Status: Offline Points: 51 |
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The demolition of this building is absolutely in violation of new ordinance 1210. Financial reasons are no excuse, that is right in the law. Read it! And the entire area IS in the enlarged historic district that goes all the way to the tracks and includes the train station.
The fact is that it doesn't affect their neighborhoods or put any money in their pockets so they couldn't care less about history, and THIS PROVES IT! Those crooks are nothing but hypocrites out looking for easy money and ways to protect their own property values at public expense.
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"Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil" (Psalm 23)
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SupportMiddletown
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It is you who should read the law...discover that it ONLY PERTAINS to the historic districts (South Main and the Highlands). Or, you can just read the second paragraph in the MJ article: http://www.middletownjournal.com/news/middletown-news/does-historic-preservation-commission-have-too-much-power--903290.html
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SupportMiddletown
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Yes, they should have absolutely attempted to salvage interior materials. It would have likely been possible for someone to come in and pay the city a little money to remove them, depending on how much was contained.
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swohio75
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Nice observation! Notice too, the yellow brick on the left side. Perhaps a former common wall of an old neighbor no longer around? Or the replacement of a common wall that was destroyed when that old neighbor came down.. |
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Rhodes
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I agree with dead man, if the city is so worried about historic "style" then why in the world did they allow this building to be torn down? I mean, it's right next to the future "WELCOME" sign to Middletown once the train depot is back in operation. Yes, sarcasm.
Just to show how ridiculous the city leaders are, they tear down a gas station to "improve" the area, yet they allow Duncan Oil to tear down historic buildings to build some big ugly gas station/convenient store right next to where the old eyesore was. Can anyone tell me where Duncan Oil has ever built a nice gas station before? |
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Dead man walkin'
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You,sir, should shut up until you know about what you are talking about. Dolt.
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"Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil" (Psalm 23)
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409
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The left and right sides of the building appear to have been built at different times.
Notice the difference in the brick and also the Revelos signs at the top.
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swohio75
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^^^^^^^^
Look at that detail. I wonder if it could have been salvaged and re-used in the restoration of another building. |
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409
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SupportMiddletown
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The Revelos Building is NOT in one of the historic districts. They have no control. Move on, sir.
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Wots
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What was the orginal use of the Revelos Bldg? And thru the years?Thanks
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Wots
Liberalism: Moochers Electing Looters to Steal from Producers. |
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Dead man walkin'
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If this is such a crying shame, why didn't your pals on the Historic Commission stop it? They have the authority to do so.
The truth is, it's all about money in their pockets and has very little to do with history and this is a great example.
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"Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil" (Psalm 23)
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SupportMiddletown
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409
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Demo began today on the Revelos Building.
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