Lets Clear up a few facts about tonights meeting

To watch the meeting online:

There are three basic questions evolving from this conversation:

1.) Is there too much Section 8 housing?
That's a more philosophical discussion that will likely continue for a long time coming

2.) Does Middletown have too many Section 8 vouchers in proportion to the rest of Butler County and should something be done about it
Yes and Yes

3.) Are certain Section 8 landlords protecting their self-interests in advocating for no changes to the program
I have my own opinion, and I am sure you do too.  But only these landlords know their true intentions.

I am also tired to hearing how Middletown has too much old housing.  No.  It has too much old housing that has not been maintained.  And Section 9 programs are not the means to deal with making sure old homes are maintained.

Here is a good example of an older home that appears to have been recently remodeled in an established neighborhood  This home is 106 years old.  An investor purchased it for $7,000, made improvements had has listed it for a reasonable price.  I wish there were more examples of this:

http://sibcycline.com/viewlisting.asp?mls=1218018&b=CIN&p=RESI&s=SFRD&m=1&sender=SearchResults&a=2415-Sherman-Ave-Middletown-South-OH-45044

I have a good friend who recently was approved for section 8 for the house she has rented for several years. She is retired, in bad health and unable to work. Just recently she took custody of her grandchildren because they were living at Hope house or on the street. I don't know what she would have done if she had not been offered this assistance. If she had not taken the kids they would have ended up in children's services, another "financial drain" to the system. 

"My issue was not with you Wasteful, but we can it with you if you want."  It seems you have made it that way with your silly threats as if I am to start shaking in my boots from your senseless drivel that spews forth from your keyboard.

Section8 states, " now you are attacking the landlords."  Please show me any post in this topic where I have attacked a Landlord.

 

I knew we could count on more  informative and colorful posts from you. 

Bobbie, so in your eyes the only people that deserve Section 8 are Vets? Is that your stance? Please tell me,  so I can tell you just how big of a moron/ jack ass  you are.

Can I refuse to rent to an individual?

You have the right to select the tenant you want for your unit using whatever criteria you determine. However, you must not discriminate against an individual because of race, color, religion, sex, national origin, age, familial status, or disability. In some jurisdictions, you cannot refuse to rent to someone just because he or she has Section 8 (called course of income).

Its my understanding that if a property owner wants to rent his or her property and an individual with a Section 8 voucher approaches that property owner about renting and can "make" rent so to speak either with the voucher alone or a combination of voucher and income, the property owner cannot turn them down because they don't want to rent to Section.

As a landlord don't you and your property have to be registered with CONSOC or the MPHA?

Keep in mind that all those properties listed above may or may not be currently rented to Section 8 tenants.  A property is only classified as Section 8 when there is a Section 8 tenant living there.

Bobbie, I have an issue with your thought "I have no problem helping out those that deserve it."  What does deserve mean?  Only in this country does someone who makes $8/hour and has 3 kids end up being entitled to live in their own house, with our tax dollards.  What happened to apartments?  Why do those "in need" deserve a home with 1500 sq feet, a yard, and picket fence? 

Wasteful - I did not mean it to come across that in a negative manner.  What I was saying is there is no way to get rid of the program all together.  I have no problem helping out those that deserve it.  However the ones that do not should be kicked off.