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wasteful
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Posted: Oct 04 2009 at 8:46pm |
Budget, grant program awaits councilBy Ed Richter, Staff Writer
7:47 PM Sunday, October 4, 2009
After a hiatus of nearly a month, Middletown City Council reconvene Tuesday, Oct. 6, to begin 2010 budget discussions, among many other items on its agenda. In addition to its budget discussions, council will consider an ordinance for a substantial amendment to the 2009 Community Development Block Grant annual action plan and the 2005-2010 Consolidated Plan that will be sent to the Department of Housing and Urban Development. According to a report from Doug Adkins, community revitalization director, the amendment is needed to clean up various program requirements since the passage of the 2009 action plan. The changes include expanding the target area based on HUD data that 54 percent of Middletown’s households city-wide qualify as low- to moderate-income areas. The plan has areas in the 1st, 2nd and 4th wards that qualify for CDBG funding. Other changes are housekeeping to adjust funding for different activities due to the city receiving federal Neighborhood Stabilization Program funding. One of the changes would be moving CDBG funding for demolition for other projects as the city is receiving NSP funding for demolition of blighted structures. Adkins’ report said expanding the area city-wide would enable the use of CDBG funding to assist homeowners to assist with property maintenance issues. The city annually receives about $685,000 in CDBG funding. Middletown City Council will meet at 5:30 p.m. in the Council Chambers on the lower level of the Middletown City Building, One Donham Plaza. |
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Smartman
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Hold on to your butts guys and gals, cause here it comes!
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wasteful
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Funny how the Journal always waits until the last minute for these issues. You would think the Journal would have went to Council and Gilleland and at least put some questions to them about this issue which will affect us all for the netx 5-6 years or longer. While most city employees that come up with this stuff live elsewhere.
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Smartman
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You would of thought! But you have to remember it is the Journal. They protect the our wonderful city leaders and cover up their actions. The Journal has basically left town except for a few reporters, they need things to go bad so they can have something to write about! The Journal is not about the positives in Middletown.
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CDBG 2009 Substantial Amendment Mayor Mulligan called the public hearing to order. Doug Adkins, Community Revitalization Director said contrary to blogs on the internet, he is not declaring the entire city a slum-invited area. He explained the purpose of this amendment is to expand options and update various program requirements which have changed since the passage of the 2009 Action Plan. The basis of the change is not new data. It is ten year old census data. All proposed activities have to go before the public for a comment period, have to go before the City Manager, City Council and have to be approved by HUD. Specific amendments were cited and included: A recommendation to expand the eligible CDBG target area to include theentire City of Middletown. The current target area is based on income data from the 2000 census. Based on data provided by HUD, the entire city qualifies as eligible based on 54% of households city-wide qualify as lowmoderate income. By going citywide, if projects are desirable, they can go anywhere in the city. The greatest need may still be where our current target area is defined. Even with Code Enforcement efforts and maintenance issues, this amendment would provide benefits citywide to citizens currently unable to meet criteria for assistance because they don’t live in the current target area; Name change of CHIP Program. This program assists with minor rehaband/or repairs of properties in the CDBG area. The State has a similar program with a similar name which has confused many people. The recommended name will be VIP (Volunteer Improvements Program). Funds to assist homeowners are being increased to $60,000 for the current budget year with the expanded eligible city-wide area, if adopted. The process will start in the next month or so for a new three-year consolidated plan. With input from the residents and council, he wants to have the most flexibility to incorporate the widest range of eligible activity to benefit the greatest number in Middletown. Also, this is CDBG Funds about $690,000 and does not include home funds, NSP funds, etc. There are two potential cons. If the greatest need is determined to be outside the current geographic area, funds can be diverted outside the current target area to a higher need area. The other con is this amendment acknowledges that 54% of our citizens now meet the HUD guidelines for low-moderate income. This proposal tries to open as many options as possible to adapt to changing conditions as we move forward. Mr. Schiavone asked if these amendments were based on 2000 census data, why did it take nine years to go into effect. Mr. Adkins couldn’t answer that question. He stated since he came on board several months ago, it has taken him a while to look at the data. The City does qualify. He was looking for ways to help more people that needed help legitimately under the guidelines and the data says we can. When new census data is available, it will change the bar. Ms. Scott Jones asked several questions including those summarized below. Mr. Adkins’s responses are in italic: • When will we have results from the 2010 census? Some time next year.• Are you going to address the name change, she stated she had a coupleof questions about that as well? Yes.• For the public’s edification, it was reported that 54% of the population nowqualifies for HUD monies? Yes.• This is not Section 8 monies? Correct.• There are income specific parameters and requirements. Correct.• There were 2600 letters sent for code enforcement, and this programcould help those persons. These changes could help additional people? There were 2300 letters sent out recently and those in the target area that do qualify can get assistance. Those outside the target area were able to get some assistance through a grant from the Middletown Community Foundation. This now allows that pool of money to go outside the target area, citywide, and could help all those that qualify. • Those that are in the pipeline, would get first consideration? Those thatfall outside the income parameters? Those that don’t meet the incomeparameters can get some assistance through the MCF grant. • Is this etched in stone? There are a number of steps that have to betaken before this is solidified? Mr. Adkins stated he wasn’t sure what thequestion was. Ms. Scott Jones stated someone with a $300,000 or$400,000 home can’t step into the process in front of someone who had been in consideration for assistance. Correct.• Mr. Adkins stated regarding the name change from CHIPS to VIP, therewas a State program called CHIPS and there was some confusion in the public and through HUD because our programs were named the same. • What are the budgets targeted for through CHIPS, it’s not for salaries?No, that budget is strictly for hard materials, paint, lumber, etc. Ms. Scott Jones asked for additional time for discussion after the public hearing. Mr. Mulligan called for proponents. Hearing none, he called for opponents. Opponents Mike Presta, 4312 Pennswood Drive, stated he had several comments. First, heM. Presta feels the public was not made aware of these amendments in a timely manner. Ifnot for reading the workbook for tonight’s meeting, he would not have known. From the materials in the workbook, it is not understandable what all this entails. Council may also not understand. It’s seems to be about a lot more than $600,000. This is a change and he has been to Council several times talking about infrastructure and streets. In the past he has been told you cannot use CDBG monies for streets. That’s not true. He said he doesn’t see anything in this modification that shows spending any money on the streets. In years past, money went unspent and could have been used for streets. Regarding the statistics of 54% qualifying, one thing that has changed if you look at the number of Section 8 vouchers from 2000 to last year, they went up significantly. It’s so complicated. He thought it was about HUD money but it is CDBG money. None of these monies are for salaries but some transfers go into funds for salaries. At minimum council should be asking for more information and a better explanation. He didn’t feel there was enough oversight. Mr. Mulligan asked for any further opponents. Hearing none, the public hearing closed at 5:45 p.m. He asked Ms. Scott Jones if she had other questions. Ms. Scott Jones asked questions including those listed below, and Mr. Adkins’s responses are in italic: • This is an amendment to the plan? Yes, the action plan and consolidatedplan that would make them both in sync again. • Is this the $690,000? Yes, this is our yearly CDBG allotment.• No any other funds included at any point? Correct.• What about infrastructure improvements that were mentioned? Mr. Adkinsresponded that what he is trying to do is give enough options and flexibility to draft the next three year HUD plan. This does not impact the 2009 plan. Draft the best three year plan to start digging out of this economy. There will be public input, council input and HUD approval. • What specifically was council voting on tonight, if the community has tohave input, the City Manager and Council have input? Mr. Adkins statedthis was the end of a thirty-day public comment period. This is for council to adopt or reject the recommended changes. After Council has done that, if passed, it is presented to HUD for approval. When HUD approves, the plan is amended accordingly. • When was this presented to the public? It was published as we havepublished every other amendment with a legal ad in the newspaper and it’s posted at the Senior Center and Library and Community Center. • Didn’t council vote to not do newspaper ads anymore and there weresome concerns about the relationship with the Journal? Mr. Mulligan stated that was the charter change discussion. Ms. Scott Jones responded she understood what it was, but in that Charter change it had something to do with advertising. She just simply wanted clarification. • She asked when the plan would be presented to council, the three-yearplan. Mr. Adkins answered the plan would be complete by March to Maynext year. • Ms. Scott Jones then asked if tonight’s request was to amend the 2009plan. Mr. Adkins responded that as staff develops the 2010 plan, toincorporate a citywide target area, this amendment allows for that citywide target area to be incorporated in the plans for the next three years. Ms. Scott Jones said the 2010 census is coming up, but will take pretty much all of 2010 for that census data to be completed. Mr. Adkins stated the three-year plan will most likely be submitted before the 2010 census data is gathered. Ms. Scott Jones asked if this data could be incorporated into the 2010 plan without amending the 2009 plan. Mr. Adkins stated this amendment allows the City to go out with code enforcement and other things now and also to be ready citywide within the 2010 plan. Ms. Scott Jones asked again could you incorporate this citywide plan in the 2010 plan without amending the 2009 plan. Mr. Adkins answered yes you could. Ms. Ford stated the perception of having 54% percent of the households citywide qualifying as low to moderate income in of itself might be a bad thing. But, she was trying to see where the problem was with the request for the amendment. To her it appeared that staff has found another way to assist more of the population, and she did not see a problem with that. Mr. Adkins stated that was correct. Mr. Becker explained this was on the agenda for a first reading. The second reading would be the first of October and this wouldn’t go into effect until November. Mr. Adkins stated that was correct. Mr. Becker suggested coming back for the second reading in October with a map showing the current target area with an overlay map of what is eligible with the amendment. What he recalls was the City is already 60 to 70% qualified. He’d like to see that and a quick synopsis of what CDBG can and cannot do. Ms. Scott Jones addressed Ms. Ford’s comments by stating she really didn’t see any problem with helping more citizens either, but she feels we owe the citizens an explanation of why this is happening. Ms. Ford stated she was not directing her comments to Ms. Scott Jones. She was addressing comments to friends in cyberspace. Ms. Scott Jones stated she understood that. She likes as much clarification as possible. Especially with televised meetings, it gives Council the opportunity to explain things to the public. Ms. Gilleland remarked about the public notice. Staff provides the same public notice as we do for all public hearings. Also, addressing Mr. Presta’s comments about infrastructure, she stated Mr. Presta is right about infrastructure. He makes a valid point. In some areas we have not been able to pay for streets with CDBG funds because they have been areas outside the target area. What Mr. Adkins has done is included the entire area in the target area and will be able to utilize some of those funds. We have looked at maintenance of alleys, etc. and some were outside of the CDBG area and we could not use CDBG funds. The same goes for parks and playground equipment. Mr. Becker stated he has been involved during several of these three year plan processes and is a lengthy process. Before, residents didn’t show much interest or input. It went through the motions and council approved it. This one might draw more attention. You can do streets with it and the City has in the past, but when you take money for streets it takes away from somewhere else. We’re only talking $690,000. Ms. Scott Jones stated council is an elected body, elected to speak for the people whether they come to draw attention to the subject or not. Are we going to ensure that there is going to be money set aside for the infrastructure? Infrastructure has been mentioned a couple of times, we know what happened in the past on past council’s when money was set aside for the streets and things changed and that money was put into the general fund. That is one of our top priorities. Ms. Gilleland stated that would be part of the budgeting process. Ms. Scott Jones stated she understands that everything is part of the budgeting process, but why mention it if it’s not going to be. It’s a serious matter that we need to address. She said she wanted to ensure that it’s part of what would be delineated for what we’re looking at in the future. Mr. Adkins responded that he said it could, he didn’t say it would. The preliminary budget does have some monies set aside for infrastructure improvements. Mr. Presta wanted to re-address Council and Ms. Gilleland’s comments regarding some paving with CDBG funds. He asked what has been paved with CDBG money. Ms. Gilleland stated she can’t speak to the past. Mr. Presta said he thought we were talking about the past. You said in the past we have paved streets with CDBG money. Mr. Becker said he thought those statements about past paving were his. He mentioned there was some street paving projects in the past and some alleys were paved with CDBG funds. The city used to do that when we received a lot more money. Mr. Presta said the City just got an extra ½ million dollars and can’t understand how alleys would get preference to streets. Mr. Mulligan stated it was probably a function of what could be paved with the amount of money we had. Ms. Wanda Glover wanted to make comments. Mr. Mulligan stated the public hearing had closed and asked if the comments could wait until citizen comments. Ms. Glover responded no, that her comments were pertaining to this topic. She said she is Chair of the Second Ward Community Council and did not know about this issue being on the agenda. She was present to speak later on another topic. She said if the notice was put into the classified section, no one reads those anyway. Regarding spreading the HUD money over the entire city, the Second Ward has many alleys that are neglected now and are already in the target area. It concerns her and she feels the money should be spent on the sections of the city that need it most. She stated if the money is spread across the entire city, she fears the Second Ward would be neglected even more. |
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Nelson R. Self
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Statement of facts and questions for Mr. Adkins.................. 1) The current FY 2005-2009 HUD Multi-Year Consolidated Plan covers the period from May 1, 2005 through April 30, 2010.
2) The new HUD Multi-Year Consolidated Plan (whether for five, four or three years) must be submitted to the HUD Columbus Field Office no later than March 15, 2010.
3) The new HUD Multi-Year Consolidated Plan (whether for five, four or three years) takes effect on May 1, 2010.
4) Is there any particular reason that the new HUD Multi-Year Consolidated Plan would cover a three year instead of a five year period?
5) Will you provide a powerpoint presentation, like what has been the practice for many years, to inform the City Council and the public as to the current budget compared to the proposed substantial amendment to the FY 2009 HUD Annual Action Plan? Will it be a clear, easy to understand comparison of the revisions to approved program activities that you want?
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Mike_Presta
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And here it is (from the agenda for tomorrow night's council meeting):
8. Resolution No. R2009-28, a resolution authorizing the City Manager to submit an application to the Ohio Public Works Commission for Funding Year 24 requesting funding for engineering and acquisition costs for improvements to Towne Boulevard and declaring an emergency."Acquisition costs"?? To exactly WHERE are they going to extend Towne Blvd.??? There is NO extension shown on ANY "plan" that has been disclosed to the PUBLIC (we, the PEOPLE)!!!
11. Ordinance No. O2009-86, an ordinance establishing a procedure for and authorizing a contract with Butler Asphalt LLC for paving six alleys and declaring an emergency.
SIX alleys??? SIX??? What is this fetish for paving ALLEYS while our STREETS are crumbling???? |
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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wasteful
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Mike as you know we don't have the funds to pave the streets for our honest hard working citizens, so we may as well make our alley's usuable for the criminal element.
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Bobbie
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Well Wasteful - I guess some business in Middletown has to thrive.
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Nelson R. Self
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QUESTIONS FOR DOUG ADKINS (Tomorrow's City Council meeting):
11. Ordinance No. O2009-86, an ordinance establishing a procedure for and authorizing a contract with Butler Asphalt LLC for paving six alleys and declaring an emergency.
a) Will you or Miss Gilleland identify locations of alleys to be paved?
b) WIll you or Miss Gilleland provide the cost for Butler Asphalt LLC to pave these alleys?
c) When/How was this project advertised for interested bidders?
d) Why is this another last minute emergency measure to be presented to City Council for adoption? |
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Nelson Self
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randy
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I had a conversation with Doug Adkins 2 weeks ago and I brought up the paving of alleys over streets. His answer to this was as follows ( this is not a quote,its me trying to remember his exact words) for the amount of money the city has to pave roads at this time the could either pave about 80 feet of road or pave 6 alleys for the same price.
I have never claimed to be an expert on city politics not even close. But if this is the case does it make more sense to get more for our money? |
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Call me for a www.CameraSecurityNow.com quote 513-422-1907 x357
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Mike_Presta
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So...Why not do other repairs on streets that are NOT completely failed that will greatly slow their deterioration??? Examples??? Seal coats; crack sealing; alligatoring repair and similar, small patching??? You can do one H*LLUVA lot of that kind of work for the $60K they spent a few months ago plus the $70 they will spend tomorrow night!!!
ANYTHING that keeps water out and minimizes freeze-thaw damage will pay off tremendously by adding YEARS to the service life of streets that are basically sound!
Doesn't ANYONE at City Hall know this??? Or do they just think that no one ELSE in this city knows anything??? If no one in either engineering or public works knows this, then that may be a great place to start looking to cut in order to save some salary dollars!!!
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Vivian Moon
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Ms. Scott Jones stated council is an elected body, elected to speak for the people whether they come to draw attention to the subject or not. Are we going to ensure that there is going to be money set aside for the infrastructure? We shouldn’t even be having a conversation about CDBG Funds being used to repair streets when the real question should be where are the funds that have been set aside to repair the streets? In 1987 you moved our income tax money into the General Fund however you did not nor were you allowed to move the State Auto & Gas Fund into the General Fund. |
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"The Citizens of Middletown will be demanding a change come November for the income tax to once again be set aside for the repair of our streets and sewers."
Vivian I doubt the city will establish the infrastructure fund again without being forced to do it by the citizens in the form of a Charter Initiative. Once the election is over and we see where things fall, I hope we move forward with this action and others.
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