Voice your Opinion In Person Or...Not At All

I love this site, I love that people can pretty much say what they want. But I am growing tired of the constant rants about city council. There is a meeting tonight at Highview School, I challenge all to attend and voice your complaints face to face with those that you disagree with.

I done want to hear that I should walk the walk, I have spoken at more than meeting. At least I can say that. I know of a few people on this site that have also spoken and for that they have my respect. Its those that come here and just talk and talk but will not come down and stand up. Yes I am all for tossing them out in November VET, but November is still a ways off. And until then we are stuck. I suggest that members of this site get from behind their key boards and come down tonight.  But the sad truth is I know none will, with the exception of one or two. That's what is sad.

what time is this meeting?

No Vet I am In a GREAT mood, just tired of all the people talking bad about my city. Yes our city is in bad shape can deny that. But people need to speak up face to face or not at all. I agree that council will not respond to any comment made (unless you bad mouth Mr. Landen) but we can still say what we want. i just want o see more of that that is all. I will give you an example Vet.

At the last meeting  people from the Highlands got up and stated why their 150 year old houses should be historic and blah blah blah. But no one got up to oppose it NO ONE! But then the very next morning I come to MiddletownUSA and here all these posters talking about why it shouldn't be  and how it is this big conspiracy to keep section 8 out of the old hospital site. I agree that this is the reason, but why did no one speak against that night?  

Iliveheretoo- I was there and concur that no one got up to speak in opposition to the Highland District residents request. I too was guilty of not voicing an opposing position. If you were there, did you speak in opposition? If not, then you can't berate the members of this forum for not speaking out too, can you?

Actually, I didn't see a point in making a strong argument concerning this HOA proposal when it doesn't affect me where I live. Whether they have a historic district or not in this area, won't matter as to my desire for this town. The REASON for the HOA/historic designation bothers me- ie - they appear to want to control the type of development, particularly on the old hospital site, that is next to them to ensure there is no Section 8 built there or that homes of much lesser quality and price won't tarnish their upper crust area. I would imagine that if that had been brought up, it may have ruffled a few feathers in the meeting that night. Bottom line: Kohler and the boys will ram through what they want regardless of the opposition in front of them.

Iliveheretoo

    The Highlands Historic District was a done deal before Mr. Kohler spoke at the last meeting because he used the 50 year rule. A correction for you, none of the homes in this area were 150 years old, they were from 1898-2002.
    The little suprise from Mr. Adkins at the last meeting declaring the entire City a slum was a complete suprise to everyone.
    I just finished reading the workbook for tonights meeting and I found NO reference to the NEW VISION being presented at tonights meeting. I guess this is going to be another little suprise for us.
    However I will be speaking at the next City Council Meeting September 22, 2009.

wasteful- yes, I agree. This would seem logical to me if I lived in the Highlands area. I guess I didn't state my point very well. To continue- IMO, It is not the Highland's folk's actions that are in question here as much as their motives, influential power and timing. Just seems awfully coincidental that as the hospital land became vacant that they wanted historical status for protection from potential "undesirables" living near them. Until now, there had been no attempt to do the "historical thing" until the land was cleared and made available. The implication is that they want total control of who occupies this land and are using "strongarm influence" to get it.

Question to you: Would ALL parts of this city have the same sayso as to who lives by them- given this same situation? Probably not. I would say just a selected few areas of town would have this priviledge.

Question to you: Do you think ALL areas of town wanting what the Highlands folks want would receive the backing of Marty Kohler? Probably not. These people have the ear of key people who can make this happen. Most other areas of town would be ignored as to backing from Kohler.(except where he lives in the South Main St. district, of course)

In answer to your question "Vet, do you want public housing units on your block or next to you?" Answer: No, I wouldn't. HOWEVER, where I live, the likelihood of Section 8 or HUD infiltration would be little to none. Rent for them would be too high and probably exceed government allocation. Too many influential big shots living in/close to the Oaks to allow that to happen. No vacant land either to defend from "undesirables". Not the same situation that the Highland's folks have.

Hermes spare me the holier than thou crapola, will ya.  Drive down Old Roosevelt Rd and you will see exactly what everyone complains about.  You own your own home whooopppeee, so do I.

Iliveheretoo, some people are short sited and some people just can't see at all that is the catagory you fall into.  If Section 8 is no issue then why isn't the whole county clamoring for it.  It is an issue and if you don't understand it and how poverty go hand in hand and have dragged this city down with the other issues then you my man or woman have a serious problem.  You can not have a city that is so soci-economically out of balance that the whole city is falling apart and that is the state that Middletown is in.  A sensible amount of Section 8 is not an issue an over abundance for one area such as Middletown is when you have Public Housing and a poverty rate of 22% plus.  Even the City admits their rental housing should be at about 3000+ units and not the 9000 that it has.  You like many others like to wear blinders and pretend there are no issues, sad to say that is not true.  The current situation in Middletown is not sustainable, if you don't believe me just keep on doing what you are doing and in 10 years you will have a ghost ton most everywhere west of Beiel.  But hay you and Hermes just keep on thinking everything is fine and ..................

wasteful I make a public apology for what I said in my now deleted post. I apologize.

You are entitled to your opinion and I mine. What you said struck a nerve and I went off half cocked.

 

My apologies sir.