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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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Posted: Apr 06 2009 at 4:58am |
City officials will be asking for emergency legislation from Middletown City Council at its Tuesday, April 7, meeting to extend its current contract with its Section 8 housing administrator for another three months so that a three-year contract can be completed. More delays on CONSOC contract. Now they need another 3 months?
Why is this contract is taking soooo long to complete. |
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spiderjohn
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 01 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2749 |
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b careful Tues.evening, Ms.Moon
u have a good point and message
stay cool at all cost
3 more months to finish that contract seems exceptionally long
maybe they will explain why, but I doubt it
must be some bottleneck
secrecy prevails at the expense of everyone
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Pacman
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When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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Spider
Don't worry I'm cool...
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spiderjohn
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 01 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2749 |
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I know that u r, Ms.Moon
And I know that you are very knowledgeable on your topic and how the inner admin works.
Remember 3 minutes, though as caretaker of the cemetary, I would think that you could request an extention in advance, and be allowed to talk longer.
I wonder if the "possible violation" residents will make a show also?
Looking forward to watching the meeting, and might come down to catch the live version.
Gives me an excuse to have dinner at 56 degrees afterwards.
Maybe someone who is deep into the Section 8 situation will also speak as to their concerns!
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John Beagle
MUSA Official Joined: Apr 23 2007 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1855 |
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Vivian are you going to be on TV Middletown? Let me know so I can grab it and post it here.
You guys are a big part of checks and balances needed in this town. I appreciate all points of view. And I feel better informed about how people feel about the issues as presented in TV Middletown and the newspaper. |
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VietVet
MUSA Council Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
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$85,000 PER MONTH to CONSOC !!!!!! $11.5 mil from the budget for this!!! Couldn't it be done any cheaper by hiring their own admin. people and placing them under the DIrector of the Section 8 program? What would be the minumum number of paper shufflers, inspectors,senior coffee drinkers,assist coffee drinkers, supervisors,senior assist. directors, assistant directors, team leaders, asst. team leaders and other pork salaries, etc. the city would need to handle 1600+ Section 8 housing clients? (Hopefully reduced later to the correct number in the 700's.) This monthly cost seems ridiculous. And just what does the city get for this seemingly exorbatant cost?
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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John I plan to speak at the City Council Meeting tomorrow night. I don't think they are going to be very happy by the time I sit down. The word Thunder-Struck comes to mind..... |
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John Beagle
MUSA Official Joined: Apr 23 2007 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1855 |
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Ok, I will schedule my recorders for 5:30. We will post on this site Wednesday.
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spiderjohn
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 01 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2749 |
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Ms.Moon
Thanx for dropping off a copy of your prepared text
I have read it a couple of times, and think that it is very good.
It enhances the inaction with dates,names/titles and places, showing a consistent pattern of neglect and indifference. It chronicles the situation and violations clearly and well.
Expect Council and admin to say nothing after you speak.
They may not answer the situation at all, mostly because they honestly don't care, and will use the "no money" excuse down the road. I doubt you will get anywhere with the locals.
Then you should probably go ahead and file your complaint with the proper state authorities by certified mail or better. Just go around the Council and admin. Maybe send a copy to Mr.Derickson and Mr.Cates also.
With the recent flurry of "possible violation" notices, this lapse by the city will put them in very poor light as to not holding up their cosmetic responsibilities. They will hardly put themselves on notice.
You might press your case with Duane Gordon of the Middletown Community Foundation. I have already discussed the past situation with him, and he seemed both sympathetic and aware.
Best of luck--hope 2 b there--looking forward to it all!
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Truth Teller
MUSA Resident Joined: Apr 06 2009 Location: Franklin Status: Offline Points: 53 |
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Government knows best is the mantra of senior city staff and some elected officials. The future of Middletown is bleak at best without a thorough house cleaning.
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Mike_Presta
MUSA Council Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483 |
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You people stop thinking about things like Section 8 and Moving Middletown Forward!!!
Why???
Well, either you're closing your eyes To a situation you do not wish to acknowledge Or you are not aware of the caliber of disaster indicated By the presence of peeling paint in your community. Ooooooooooh we got trouble,trouble,trouble... |
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Pacman
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612 |
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Mike you are being Obsessive, please stop.
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When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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Spider “People that live in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones”.
Oh...they will answer one way or the other...and this time I will hang all the dirty laundry out on the line for all to see! |
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spiderjohn
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 01 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2749 |
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Mr.P--we can take care of Section 8 and MMF simultaneously in one day.
Next November we vote out Mr.Armbruster,Mr.Schiavone and Mr.Marconi
Hopefully Mr.Becker will be chosen to handle the county emergency operation.
His replacement would be chosen by the remaining Council members.
These are the four commissioners who voted to retain CONSOC because "you don't change something that is working well".
If the next Section 8 contract mandates a 50% reduction over time, we only need like-minded bodies in power to carry it out.
We already know about the MMF plan, and witnessed it in operation last Council elections. Simply watch the money flow, and during campaign forums, ask the appropriate ?s.
Still--we need viable ward candidates.
Quit pouting, pacman.
Does it hurt sitting on your fingers, or are you wearing mittens?
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Mike_Presta
MUSA Council Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483 |
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Spider:
We cannot take care of it if the people get distracted by the countermeasures (mis-direction) being used by the powers that be.
As in "The Music Man", this city's power brokers (Middletown's "Professor Harold Hill") are simply manufacturing "straw men" (the pool table in the Music Man, the peeling paint and anything else they can think of to distract us in our case) to draw attention away from the real purpose. (In The Music Man, the purpose was to flim-flam the local hayseeds out of their hard-earned money to pay for instruments and uniforms for a "boys' band" and his promise to teach them to play with his innovative "THINK system" of music instruction.)
I won't carry this analogy any farther, as I don't want to be boring, but I must warn one more time:
Do NOT be distracted!!! Do NOT fall for mis-direction!!! Keep your eyes on the ball!!!
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Vivian Moon
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This entire Section 8 contract situation has turned into a bad novel. |
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Mike_Presta
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Vivian:
AMEN!!
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Impala SS
MUSA Resident Joined: Jan 12 2009 Location: middletown Status: Offline Points: 136 |
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Vivian; You go girl. Tell it like it is.
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John Beagle
MUSA Official Joined: Apr 23 2007 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1855 |
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Good luck Vivian!
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Vivian Moon
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In 2005, I met Marty Kohler at the cemetery to discuss the critical condition of the vault. He told me Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) funds could be used to restore the vault if City Council declared the cemetery historic. In 2006, Council made that declaration; however, Mr. Kohler has not set aside a single dollar of CDBG funds for the vault restoration. The stone work continues to deteriorate, and still the CDBG budget does not include funds to restore the vault.
In January Pam Banks of the Finance Department contacted me about damage at the cemetery; it seems that Public Works had told them there was no damage. The Finance Department asked if I would meet Mr. Priest, the FEMA Representative, so the City could file the claim. I met with him at the cemetery to verify the damage and got a quote for repairing the stones. HOWEVER…it really isn’t a matter of whether you think this is a worthwhile project,
I respectfully request As of tonight, there are fourteen days for you to respond with a realistic plan for addressing the needs at the Cemetery….and the clock is ticking. The Vivian Moon |
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Pacman
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612 |
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Spider, No it is not cold enough for Mittens and I am to busy to sit on my hands. Had a family emergency and working on business survival in this economy. As far as pouting I'll leave that to you.
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When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
Thomas Jefferson |
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Impala SS
MUSA Resident Joined: Jan 12 2009 Location: middletown Status: Offline Points: 136 |
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Vivian; You did a wonderful job at City Hall tonight. Keep up the good work you have people backing you 100%. I thought it was so stupid of our mayor to say we are not here for questions and answers. That is the problem down there they never give any answers to anything. What the hell good are they?
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Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Mar 27 2009 Status: Offline Points: 1014 |
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Vivian.....Excellent presentation. An absolute shame they cut you off. Keep it up!
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Truth Teller
MUSA Resident Joined: Apr 06 2009 Location: Franklin Status: Offline Points: 53 |
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When the recently "resigned" Community Development Administrator flew to Middletown (at his own expense) for an interview in early November 2006, Marty Kohler proudly spoke of the Section 8 program and how it had grown under his direction over the past few years and was infusing HUD funds into neighborhoods resulting in upgraded rental housing conditions.
His predecessor (Angela Tucker) would not allow HUD-funded housing code enforcement personnel to cite Section 8 properties with violations. She told staff that he later inherited that CONSOC was being paid to ensure that all properties met HUD's Housing Quality Standards. He changed this policy upon his arrival and spent many hours on the phone and sending e-mails to CONSOC when inspectors discovered problems. This angered Mr. Kohler.
The truth will set the captives free!
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