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    Posted: Jul 17 2009 at 12:34pm
MiddletownUSA.com was just informed that Geri Lynn Maples will not be running for Middletown City Council this fall. Due to personal issues she has decided against running for 4th Ward Council. We wish her the best of luck and hope she'll consider running again in the future.
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As a side note, this leaves Daniel Picard unopposed for the 4th ward.
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Too bad, Geri would have made a great candidate. I have met her and see her in action at Middletown Master Plan meetings.

Perhaps she will try again in 2 years.
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Geri Lynn Maples is an honest, competent Christian woman.  She truly cares for Middletown and WOULD HAVE BEEN an independent, fair-minded City Council member.
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There is another candidate for the 4th ward his name is Robert Thoroughman from Audubon Drive in Middletown.
 
I am glad we have another candidate and after I spoke to Geri Lynn Mapples I was sad to learn she had decided to pull out. But after she explained why. I completly under stood
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Greetings, My name is Robert Thoroughman. I am the other candidate for ward 4. PLease feel free to ask me any questions.
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Originally posted by thoroughman thoroughman wrote:

Greetings, My name is Robert Thoroughman. I am the other candidate for ward 4. PLease feel free to ask me any questions.
Mr. Thoroughman, My name is Randy and I was looking forward to meeting you today at an other candidates office but was running late. I would love for you to take part in an interview of candidates. How do you feel about that?
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Mr. Thoroughman:
A new racetrack with slot machines would bring hundreds of new jobs, and lots of tax money and visitors to Middletown, along with the possibility of a future casino on the same site.  This would be a HUGE financial benefit to our city.
If elected Fourth Ward councilman, would you support efforts to lure such an enterprise to Middletown, near I-75?
“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Mike-- I hope you're not thinking about putting that track in the area that our magnificent mall is located!! Sounds like a good idea if we could land that though. 
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Originally posted by rngrmed rngrmed wrote:

Mike-- I hope you're not thinking about putting that track in the area that our magnificent mall is located!! Sounds like a good idea if we could land that though. 
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Not I!!!  I have neither the interest nor the finances to undertake such a venture.  I have heard rumblings, however, that others are pitching a site EAST of I-75 and at least partially within Middletown city limits to the current race track license-holders. 
 
My only interest would be that of an occasional patron, if I am alive, kicking, and still in the area should it ever all come to pass.  Also, I think that it would be GOOD for our fair city, so I am interestested in EVERY council candidates' view on the issue.
 
PS:  I finally got to meet the "Z-ster" over the weekend.  I think he's a keeper!!!
“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Mike--I didn't mean you personally putting in the track.  I know there had been talks of a casino in Monroe.  I wonder if the same Indian Tribe has any connections in putting one at the Mall location. A casino and race track would compliment each other nicely.  Plus an outlet mall? 

Zach is a good kid...heard he had a lot of fun at your place.  Just give us a call when the girls want him to come over and play. 
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56 acre mall site may be tight for a track, Hotel, future casino etc.  But that 310 acre piece of land off Cincy Dayton Rd. down by Berns. Hmmmmmmmm.
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I want  race track!  Does Ohio allow dog racing?  That is fun too...I guess they could simulcast from around the country.  I have also thought a casino would be a good fit, if they were ever made legal.

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Mike
You must be drinking a brew really early today to think that City Hall would ever approve a race track in the Middletown area. I don't believe they understand the word DESTINATION. I thought they wanted o build it off 71 close to King Island?
Middletown should have built a casino years ago.
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Originally posted by rngrmed rngrmed wrote:

Zach is a good kid...heard he had a lot of fun at your place.  Just give us a call when the girls want him to come over and play. 
All of "the girls" left Sunday--even the big ones.  At maximum "density" during the week, we had a total of 12 females staying here of every stage of female development, including one who is pregnant (with me the only male).  There was so much estrogen floating around that, at one point, I had the urge to watch soap operas!   And what a workout our thermostat had!!!  Never did more than 10 minutes go by before someone would yell "I'm HOT!" or "I'm COLD!"
Dawn just got back Wednesday.  She took Kelly back to Maryland, while I stayed here and recovered! Wink
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There was so much estrogen floating around that, at one point, I had the urge to watch soap operas! 
I may watch the UFC fights at my place Aug 8th if you might be interested in coming over.  Nothing like some cage fights to increase the testosterone levels back up
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Originally posted by Vivian Moon Vivian Moon wrote:

I thought they wanted to build it off 71 close to King Island?
There several sites either under consideration, or making pitches.  At least that is what I am hearing on the streets.
 
MY opinion is that the I-71 location has three things AGAINST it: location, location, location.
 
There are TWO race tracks (Bealuh Park and Scioto Downs) near I-71 just south of Columbus and ONE MORE EAST of Cincinnati (River Downs).  One of the Columbus tracks will no doubt relocate, but that would still leave TWO competitors less than an hours' easy drive away.  That location would also be more difficult to access from Dayton.
 
However, a location just off I-75 would make it an easy drive from Dayton, and a much easier trip from much of Cincinnati than River Downs.  (And don't forget West Chester, Hamilton, Monroe, Springboro, and the others, and yes, even Middletown.)  The decision-makers here are NOT Middletown council members.  They understand market analysis. 
 
Draw the circles and count the roofs.  I-75 wins hands down!
 
Of course there is more to the game.  There are TWO tracks in Cleveland (Thistledown and Northfield Park).  Which way will one move, west or south?  That may drive the direction one of the Columbus tracks moves, north or west.
 
Only one thing is certain: These decisions will NOT be made as the former "downtown" Middletown decisions are made.  They will do what is smart, not "we'll do what we want whether it will work or not."
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What style of track are talking about here, Harness or Thoroughbred ? I am for a track in  Middletown think it could really help the city. I grow up going to the race track. you do realize that there is a track just up track, Lebanon Race way. They dont have much of a draw any more ,live racing there is not what it use to be. There money comes from simulcast races from some of the tracks you mentioned above. I think a casino has a much better chance of survival than a race track.   
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Randy you are behind the times.  Catch up.  Harness Racing, Lebanon Raceway is looking to re-locate closer to I-75, slots are being added to the tracks.  Casino later would be a natural.  Daily reading of the Middletown Journal online is a must to keep up. 
 

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Originally posted by randy randy wrote:

What style of track are talking about here, Harness or Thoroughbred ? I am for a track in  Middletown think it could really help the city. I grow up going to the race track. you do realize that there is a track just up track, Lebanon Race way. They dont have much of a draw any more ,live racing there is not what it use to be. There money comes from simulcast races from some of the tracks you mentioned above. I think a casino has a much better chance of survival than a race track.   
Of course I know that.  Part of my extensive (but little known) background includes a stint when I owned a couple of standardbreds and trained a few.  (I also drove in one county fair race, and was Track Photographer at Lebanon one year.)
 
There were a a couple of years that I (and a friend) never missed even one night at the races if there was a harness track runnning within a hundred miles. 
 
All of this was in the late '60s or early '70s.
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 I personally am not yet aware of the plans and details in the building of such a place in the city. I know there has been talk from time to time. I would have to look over all aspects and details of such a choice. I personally am not 100% sure that such business really helps communities? I would look at overall impact on entire city. I am also very open to hearing feedback as to why or why not have such a place. I do know that River Downs just a little south is having problems with money to operate.

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 I personally am not yet aware of the plans and details in the building of such a place in the city. I know there has been talk from time to time. I would have to look over all aspects and details of such a choice. I personally am not 100% sure that such business really helps communities? I would look at overall impact on entire city. I am also very open to hearing feedback as to why or why not have such a place. I have heard that River Downs just a little south is having problems with business.   As a personal preference I do not visit those types of businesses. However, I desire to do what is best for our city as a whole. PLease understand I would need to know all details before I could really decide on that. Just based on what little amount I know about it right now. I would need to say no, but am open to hearing more about it.

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Mr. Thoroughman there are no known plans to build a track in Middletown.  The Lebanon Track is looking to relocate closer to I-75, hence the talk of Middletown. The Governor signed an executive order this month bringing slots to the tracks mainly due to the financial shape the tracks are in.  The hope is that slots will rejuvenate the tracks.
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Originally posted by wasteful wasteful wrote:

Randy you are behind the times.  Catch up.  Harness Racing, Lebanon Raceway is looking to re-locate closer to I-75, slots are being added to the tracks.  Casino later would be a natural.  Daily reading of the Middletown Journal online is a must to keep up. 
 

For the record a reading of the Journal to keep up is a poor source of news.
As for the track in Lebanon,It is 15 min. from 75 now and is not gonna relocate. I grew up going to that track and some of my earliest memories are of falling  asleep in the grandstand. I hope slots are add to all tracks and wish the would build a casino right in the heart of Middletown. I know many people that work there and run hourses there today.
The bulk of Lebanons money comes from simulcast form other tracks. They only run live 3 days a week and a few months out of the year. Where is the benifit to  moving?
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Originally posted by Mike_Presta Mike_Presta wrote:

Originally posted by randy randy wrote:

What style of track are talking about here, Harness or Thoroughbred ? I am for a track in  Middletown think it could really help the city. I grow up going to the race track. you do realize that there is a track just up track, Lebanon Race way. They dont have much of a draw any more ,live racing there is not what it use to be. There money comes from simulcast races from some of the tracks you mentioned above. I think a casino has a much better chance of survival than a race track.   
Of course I know that.  Part of my extensive (but little known) background includes a stint when I owned a couple of standardbreds and trained a few.  (I also drove in one county fair race, and was Track Photographer at Lebanon one year.)
 
There were a a couple of years that I (and a friend) never missed even one night at the races if there was a harness track runnning within a hundred miles. 
 
All of this was in the late '60s or early '70s.
Mike,I meant no disrespect in my post. It just seemed that no one was taking about lebanon. I Have been there many ,many times and if you worked there are were in the  business then i would bet we know some of the same names in the business.
I do think that a casino and slots are a great idea I just cant see a new race track having  much of a chance. Just build a casino and be done with it.
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