Nelson & Associates

No Pacman

I don’t have time today to get into the CONSO story however I will tell you that I believe we are now headed in the wrong direction…I believe it now time to empty City Hall and turn this entire Section 8 program over to Butler County.

Vivian why would HUD have anything to say over the City terminating its contract with CONSOC? 
Pacman
I don’t believe we have been given all the facts concerning the termination of CONSOC.
At the last meeting Mr. Adkins kept referring to April communications between the City and CONSOC. The next day I requested copies of these letters and or emails and as of this date I have not received them.
I have not seen the contract between the City and CONSOC however I will tell you that CONSOC can only act upon items that have been approved by City Council and HUD which is what Mrs. Joseph stated at the last meeting. (they are currently working under the OLD HUD plan).  
I personally think that the real problem is TIG. I still don’t understand how they can blame CONSOC for the “No Show” problem and cost over runs since TIG hasn’t performed since the day they hired them...and I’m still not understanding the bad address problem ????

The administrative contract is between the City and CONSOC, not HUD and CONSOC.
We will see…I believe CONSOC may have a law suite against the City and I believe HUD will back CONSOC.
 
Since you now feel that the whole Section 8 mess should be turned over to Butler County, why are you so concerned about CONSOC.  Butler County has had it's own issues in the past. I haven't looked at them lately
I believe that some changes may have been needed at CONSOC however now I believe we are throwing out the baby, bathwater and the tub. Just because we change vendors does not mean we will have a better program…I still believe that HUD may step in and take over this entire program.

Also you have the fact that HUD is basically refusing to move the Vouchers out of Middletown. 
And this is the fact that Nelson and I have been trying to tell you over the past several months every time they stood before City Council and said HUD was on board with THE NEW PLAN and they were going to reduce the vouchers.
 

I personally think, and this is my own opinion from my observations over the last 7 years, that it is time for CONSOC to go.

1)  Consoc has been mixed up with the City Officials that were behind the run up of the vouchers.
It was the City that requested the increase in Vouchers

2)  Consoc has been flying under the radar in Middletown for most of the last 7 years surfacing at Council meetings here and there to protect its turf and $$$$$.  There has been little scrutiny of CONSOC except for the last 2 years.
All HUD programs are to be operated under the radar of the public eye because they are popular with tax payers. HUD does not want to see its name in the paper for any reason.
Middletown is not winning in points with HUD keeping this issue on the front page.

3)  The Middletown Housing Authority did not meet publicly until the last year.  So for what 15 or so years Consoc has been under the radar most of the time.

So you are saying that CONSOC ran the program without any leadership from Mr. Kohler 
and HUD never once called the City on the carpet…Hmmm
I don’t believe it was CONSOC that has been hiding the facts and the numbers…I believe that was City Hall.

4)  My observation of Mr. Adkins is that he is a "cross your T's and dot you I's" type of administrate and Consoc is not fitting in with that type of Leadership.

5)  Consoc is to use to doing their own thing when it comes to the Management of the Section 8 program and the new Admin is stifling their operation, the way they want to do it.

6)  Their bid for the Contract came in at about $200K higher than anyone else.  Now this was brought up by a few people when it happened and not much was said about it.  But you guys on here are hollering and screaming when the city buys a home and spends $20K to rehab it and then we have the Council hiring a group that is $200k higher than anyone else and that is fine.   I don't get that one.

Ahh yes the $200,000…I believe that at the next housing meeting you will find that TIG is way over the projected budget because of the “No Shows”. When the City gets the new vender this money will disappear into the dark hole of City Hall never to be seen again.

I think it is time for Consoc to move on and for the City to move ahead with a new company administering the program under Mr. Adkin's watchful eye

lol mtown

If they are terminated using the "Convenience Clause" in the contract I would hope it spells out exactly what is expected of each party and any recourse that is possible.  I again quote the above:

No you are right but I get the distinct impression that the City and those that have to work with CONSOC have had enough.  Why would HUD take over a program that is being run by a HUD certified administrator whether it be CONSOC, Nelson & Associates or anyone else as long as the City is playing by HUD's rules?

Also you have the fact that HUD is basically refusing to move the Vouchers out of Middletown. 
And this is the fact that Nelson and I have been trying to tell you over the past several months every time they stood before City Council and said HUD was on board with THE NEW PLAN and they were going to reduce the vouchers.

I personally think, and this is my own opinion from my observations over the last 7 years, that it is time for CONSOC to go.

1)  Consoc has been mixed up with the City Officials that were behind the run up of the vouchers.
It was the City that requested the increase in Vouchers.

2)  Consoc has been flying under the radar in Middletown for most of the last 7 years surfacing at Council meetings here and there to protect its turf and $$$$$.  There has been little scrutiny of CONSOC except for the last 2 years.
All HUD programs are to be operated under the radar of the public eye because they are popular with tax payers. HUD does not want to see its name in the paper for any reason.
Middletown is not winning in points with HUD keeping this issue on the front page.

3)  The Middletown Housing Authority did not meet publicly until the last year.  So for what 15 or so years Consoc has been under the radar most of the time.

So you are saying that CONSOC ran the program without any leadership from Mr. Kohler 
and HUD never once called the City on the carpet…Hmmm
I don’t believe it was CONSOC that has been hiding the facts and the numbers…I believe that was City Hall.

I think Consoc may have had little supervision over the that time frame yes.  The City may have been hiding the facts but CONSOC played right along with them in that matter.

4)  My observation of Mr. Adkins is that he is a "cross your T's and dot you I's" type of administrate and Consoc is not fitting in with that type of Leadership.

5)  Consoc is to use to doing their own thing when it comes to the Management of the Section 8 program and the new Admin is stifling their operation, the way they want to do it.

6)  Their bid for the Contract came in at about $200K higher than anyone else.  Now this was brought up by a few people when it happened and not much was said about it.  But you guys on here are hollering and screaming when the city buys a home and spends $20K to rehab it and then we have the Council hiring a group that is $200k higher than anyone else and that is fine.   I don't get that one.

Ahh yes the $200,000…I believe that at the next housing meeting you will find that TIG is way over the projected budget because of the “No Shows”. When the City gets the new vender this money will disappear into the dark hole of City Hall never to be seen again.

I think it is time for Consoc to move on and for the City to move ahead with a new company administering the program under Mr. Adkin's watchful eye

I'll stick by my above statement time for Consoc to go.