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Originally posted by Vivian Moon Vivian Moon wrote:

 
Wasteful
    Yes however we still do not know what type od inspections Mr. Adkins will require...guess we will need to wait and see.
    The problem with the Parma plan is that the areas around us DO NOT want our Section 8 problem .
 
Why is the type of Inspection that Mr. Adkins would require important to the overall issue of reducing the number of Section 8 Voucher holders living in Middletown, as long at it meets or exceeds HUD's Specs?
 
Also, I would hope that Middletown would open the area that the Voucher Holders would be able to live in to include Butler and Warren County, if they can.  It is not up to an area or city government whether they want to accept Section 8 Vouchers.  It is up to the owner of the house/Apt. whether they want to rent to a Section 8 Voucher Holder and can meet HUD's Specs..
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Just for the record…I received the April-May communications between the City and CONSOC and they are an interesting read.
However….I have more questions now than I had before.
I can’t wait to hear TIG’s side of this story at the next meeting.
  
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What will the city do next if this company does not produce to their standards.  I personally feel that not all of the blame is Consoc.  I think that the city management set Consoc up for failure on this contract as it was very evident that city mangement did not want them in there....Bobbie
 
Bobbie this could become a total nighmare because this program needs to be a seamless transfer of a huge amount of information.
Are these system programs already in use by Nelson & Nelson?
Does Nelson & Nelson have the personel on staff to handle the transfer this amount of information? It is my understanding that Nelson & Nelson has even fewer employees than CONSOC.
Yes I also believe that the City set CONSOC up for failure...
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Originally posted by Vivian Moon Vivian Moon wrote:

Bobbie this could become a total nighmare because this program needs to be a seamless transfer of a huge amount of information.
Are these system programs already in use by Nelson & Nelson?
Does Nelson & Nelson have the personel on staff to handle the transfer this amount of information? It is my understanding that Nelson & Nelson has even fewer employees than CONSOC.
Yes I also believe that the City set CONSOC up for failure...
 
Vivian you are over doing it again.
 
Lets say that Consoc reached the end of its contract and they re-bid it again and they lost and Nelson & Associates or any other company for that matter gets the contract to manage Middletown's Section 8 program.
By your assumption above the transfer can not be made because there is to much info and it is just impossible for anyone other than Consoc to do the job.  Come on, lets be a little more realistic here.  PHA managers change regularly and they are not the disasters you claim.  Could there be bumps in the road sure but the change over can occur and will.  Now what is the difference if Consoc is terminated or they lose the contract to another management company?
 
Nelson & Associates is a Cincinnati based company and has 20 employees.  They manage property from Florida to Cleveland.  They have been in business since 1987.
 
Was Consoc setup to fail, the fact you state that is your own personal opinion and personally I don't think that Consoc was prepared to work for a gentleman such as Mr. Adkins who strikes me as a person who basically sets the ground rules and expects them to be followed.
 
Also I am in no way related to any of these companies and I don't care who runs the program, but I do believe it is time for Consoc to go and the sooner the better and they should have never been given the contract in the first place.
 
And for Nelson.....Himself this is a copy of the Landlord file that I received in Feb. 2009 from Consoc and I was in error instead of 500 pages it is 595 pages basically listing one landlord per page, as according to Consoc that is all they had.  Long way from the Excel files you say was available in 2007-2008, or maybe the citizens are just special and get the easy file to work with, all 595 pages.  It sure discourages you from printing it out.
 
 
 
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I also understand they have used TIG in the past for inspections.  This is an item that is 6-7 months down the road I am sure we will have the details over the next few months.  I wouldn't lose any sleep over it until the 1st of the new year anyways.
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