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    Posted: Oct 06 2012 at 1:24pm
Family Services of Middletown is being sued for $322,000 in unpaid bills to contractor.
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Not sure of details. Heard from City hall they are going to have to move from current building to settle lawsuit.
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Was told similar to above info by the top man there.
Seems to be a disagreement over the remodel process.
I have worked often and well with this group, and wish them the
best in this difficult situation. FS hasn't been there long, after being forced out of the
ground floor of the TVM building. Seemed that the artsy crowd
didn't want "that type of people" in the area any more--lol

Well-- that area/location for FS served the community much better than the current location
despite space limitations. This community needs FS despite the
attitude in the Donham bunker and @ Central/Broad. City admin brought in
the Section 8 crowd--now they want them out if sight and don 't want to
take care of them. Too late.

Face it-- the former downtown area is the best location to serve them..
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Originally posted by spiderjohn spiderjohn wrote:

Was told similar to above info by the top man there.
Seems to be a disagreement over the remodel process.
I have worked often and well with this group, and wish them the
best in this difficult situation. FS hasn't been there long, after being forced out of the
ground floor of the TVM building. Seemed that the artsy crowd
didn't want "that type of people" in the area any more--lol

Well-- that area/location for FS served the community much better than the current location
despite space limitations. This community needs FS despite the
attitude in the Donham bunker and @ Central/Broad. City admin brought in
the Section 8 crowd--now they want them out if sight and don 't want to
take care of them. Too late.

Face it-- the former downtown area is the best location to serve them..


Hey Mtown-- you never have provided the list of S Main property owners receiving govt grants and loans.
Or the Central/broad area entities receiving grant assistance, or those
delinquent / forgiven on debt. Why not?
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I wonder if this could be the reason teh section 8 office has been moved Elliott and Grand a few years ago??

With all the hoopla about reducing the # of section 8 vouchers in Middletown, the only movement I have seen is the movement of this office.

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PS:  PEOPLE - Now is the time to make a change, so stand up and be heard!!
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Not a disagreement over the remodeling, FS director entered into contracts without the money to pay for the contracts.

Seems like gross mismanagement to me.
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This town reeks of bad management, and people starting projects while expecting someone
else to pay for unfinished business.

Seems that MCF would be more concerned with Family Services than fund-raising for Sorg and being admin's
piggy bank. MCF used to be about helping the needy and community as a whole. It has now become an extension of city govt and the enablers around Governors Square.
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Originally posted by spiderjohn spiderjohn wrote:

This town reeks of bad management, and people starting projects while expecting someone
else to pay for unfinished business.

Seems that MCF would be more concerned with Family Services than fund-raising for Sorg and being admin's
piggy bank. MCF used to be about helping the needy and community as a whole. It has now become an extension of city govt and the enablers around Governors Square.
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Spider John the MCF was never created for the reasons you suggest. In fact I just had a coversation with several of the foundingmembers of the MCF and the original purpose was to primarily support the growing arts community. As for Family Services, this is the third time they have lost a building and its correct that this is due to mismanagement of funding.
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Originally posted by crazycatcher crazycatcher wrote:


Originally posted by spiderjohn spiderjohn wrote:


This town reeks of bad management, and people starting projects while expecting someone
else to pay for unfinished business.

Seems that MCF would be more concerned with Family Services than fund-raising for Sorg and being admin's
piggy bank. MCF used to be about helping the needy and community as a whole. It has now become an extension of city govt and the enablers around Governors Square.



Oh Spider...

Since 2010, FSM has received nearly $50,000 in grants from MCF

2010

Family Services of Middletown $25,000 toward renovations of its new location

2011
Family Service of Middletown $15,000 to assist in resurface the parking lot at its new location to bring it up to code; without this repair, the facility would not meet its occupancy requirements and could be forced to close

2012
Family Service of Middletown $9,000 for technology upgrades to operate its food pantry

At the moment MCF is only in the in-take organization for Sorg Opera house--just like it is for other organizations and individuals....
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Fair enough
I stand corrected
 
I served on the MCF board and finance committee.
Passed on the FS board unfortunately
When I started, MCF did a lot of granting to the needy and scholarships. 
 
I have worked smoothly and successfully with the Family Services leadership and staff.
It is a very busy place--they go through an amazing amount of food(surprise!)
They work hard to provide services to the needy, and do it mostly with volunteers.
No amount of funding can cover their daily requests for assistance.
Spend a little time down there during the last 2 weeks of the month
 
Our city govt spanned decades bringing in the poor and poverty, particularly a few years ago.
Cash cow for staff and landlords in on the program
Long-term result is our current local economy and demographics
We need quality Family Services AND our local health board/clinic now more than ever
 
Don't want FS conveniently in the empty former downtown area, and out of their new(very old) space--
so-- out in empty commercial space on the east end?
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Mismanagement of funds intended for those in need is still mismanagement.
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City official indicates FS likely to close up operations.
Funders are feed up with Maurice screw ups.
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Sad--I like mr. Maxwell
Enjoyed helping him with storage when I could do so

So---how will his base of needy be taken care of?
Send them to Hamilton?

The new building was a forced move and never a good fit
Plus an expensive re-do

I assume that we only take care of the property owners in the former downtown
area, and no worries about the needy until they migrate back to the
Former Central Ave location area and have to resort to theft against local
merchants.

Will the local churches, food banks and shelters be able to absorb the influx
if it happens?

We have a large # of needy in this community.
We can't just wish them away or forget that they exist

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When you say "family services" are you talking about people that collect welfare?
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Middletown Food Pantry
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FS buying Gibson Furniture building????????
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Originally posted by Middletown29 Middletown29 wrote:

FS buying Gibson Furniture building????????
Ah.....the original Streifthau Hardware building....
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Interesting
Good Central location, and a windfall for Ms.Gibson
So--how does this solve the lawsuit/debt issue?
Vacating the property?
Oh boy--assuming ownership of the current location?
 
Same FS leadership? 
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What about all the money spent on current location?
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Where is the outrage?
How many times does Maurice get away with wasting and mismanaging money?
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Well well Middletown29

Where is your outrage?
How many times does City Hall get away with wasting and mismanaging our tax money?

 

 

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Mr.Maxwell could have done better, though he has little to work with, when compared to the incredible demand for help in this town(thanx 2 our city admin's long-term strategy to ramp up Section 8).
 
Family Services was forced out of their former convenient location under TVM, and into a very inconvenient current location.
 
Mismanaging tax money??
Look no further than decades of expenditures in the former downtown area, and the vacant structures littering the area. "Mothballing" worthless and expensive properties, mostly in the former downtown area. Paying $85,000 for the former Hobby House/Cabinet Shop--$300,000 for the former Office Outfitters property. The Manchester/Sonshine/bank building/Masonic Temple + $100,000+ of "forgiven" loans and debt. 2nd round of storefront improvements to buildings that haven't had a tenant since the first round of improvements(or any interior improvements). The hundre\ds of thousands of $$ plus municipal hours expended in two rounds(over a decade) in failed projects with Duncan Oil.[/

FS is way below on my "outrage scale"
more disappointment DIV]
 
Recent robberies this week @ UDF and Speedway?
If so--why no press?
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One small correction, Spiderjohn:
 
This is the THIRD round of facade improvement grants!!!
“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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