Family Services Sunk
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Topic: Family Services Sunk
Posted By: Middletown29
Subject: Family Services Sunk
Date Posted: Oct 06 2012 at 1:24pm
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Family Services of Middletown is being sued for $322,000 in unpaid bills to contractor.
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Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Oct 06 2012 at 8:43pm
| Details? |
Posted By: Middletown29
Date Posted: Oct 07 2012 at 11:02am
| Not sure of details. Heard from City hall they are going to have to move from current building to settle lawsuit. |
Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 5:01pm
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Was told similar to above info by the top man there.
Seems to be a disagreement over the remodel process. I have worked often and well with this group, and wish them the best in this difficult situation. FS hasn't been there long, after being forced out of the ground floor of the TVM building. Seemed that the artsy crowd didn't want "that type of people" in the area any more--lol Well-- that area/location for FS served the community much better than the current location despite space limitations. This community needs FS despite the attitude in the Donham bunker and @ Central/Broad. City admin brought in the Section 8 crowd--now they want them out if sight and don 't want to take care of them. Too late. Face it-- the former downtown area is the best location to serve them.. |
Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 5:04pm
Hey Mtown-- you never have provided the list of S Main property owners receiving govt grants and loans. Or the Central/broad area entities receiving grant assistance, or those delinquent / forgiven on debt. Why not? |
spiderjohn wrote:Posted By: Pacman
Date Posted: Oct 08 2012 at 8:53pm
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I wonder if this could be the reason teh section 8 office has been moved Elliott and Grand a few years ago?? With all the hoopla about reducing the # of section 8 vouchers in Middletown, the only movement I have seen is the movement of this office. Pacman  PS: PEOPLE - Now is the time to make a change, so stand up and be heard!! |
Posted By: Middletown29
Date Posted: Oct 09 2012 at 8:35am
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Not a disagreement over the remodeling, FS director entered into contracts without the money to pay for the contracts.
Seems like gross mismanagement to me. |
Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: Oct 09 2012 at 11:37am
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This town reeks of bad management, and people starting projects while expecting someone
else to pay for unfinished business. Seems that MCF would be more concerned with Family Services than fund-raising for Sorg and being admin's piggy bank. MCF used to be about helping the needy and community as a whole. It has now become an extension of city govt and the enablers around Governors Square. |
Posted By: crazycatcher
Date Posted: Oct 09 2012 at 6:20pm
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Posted By: crazycatcher
Date Posted: Oct 09 2012 at 6:22pm
| Spider John the MCF was never created for the reasons you suggest. In fact I just had a coversation with several of the foundingmembers of the MCF and the original purpose was to primarily support the growing arts community. As for Family Services, this is the third time they have lost a building and its correct that this is due to mismanagement of funding. |
Posted By: swohio75
Date Posted: Oct 09 2012 at 7:29pm
Oh Spider... Since 2010, FSM has received nearly $50,000 in grants from MCF 2010 Family Services of Middletown $25,000 toward renovations of its new location 2011 Family Service of Middletown $15,000 to assist in resurface the parking lot at its new location to bring it up to code; without this repair, the facility would not meet its occupancy requirements and could be forced to close 2012 Family Service of Middletown $9,000 for technology upgrades to operate its food pantry At the moment MCF is only in the in-take organization for Sorg Opera house--just like it is for other organizations and individuals.... |
Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: Oct 09 2012 at 7:56pm
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Fair enough I stand corrected I served on the MCF board and finance committee. Passed on the FS board unfortunately When I started, MCF did a lot of granting to the needy and scholarships. I have worked smoothly and successfully with the Family Services leadership and staff. It is a very busy place--they go through an amazing amount of food(surprise!) They work hard to provide services to the needy, and do it mostly with volunteers. No amount of funding can cover their daily requests for assistance. Spend a little time down there during the last 2 weeks of the month Our city govt spanned decades bringing in the poor and poverty, particularly a few years ago. Cash cow for staff and landlords in on the program Long-term result is our current local economy and demographics We need quality Family Services AND our local health board/clinic now more than ever Don't want FS conveniently in the empty former downtown area, and out of their new(very old) space-- so-- out in empty commercial space on the east end? |
Posted By: Middletown29
Date Posted: Oct 09 2012 at 9:27pm
| Mismanagement of funds intended for those in need is still mismanagement. |
Posted By: Middletown29
Date Posted: Oct 10 2012 at 11:58am
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City official indicates FS likely to close up operations.
Funders are feed up with Maurice screw ups. |
Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: Oct 10 2012 at 12:57pm
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Sad--I like mr. Maxwell
Enjoyed helping him with storage when I could do so So---how will his base of needy be taken care of? Send them to Hamilton? The new building was a forced move and never a good fit Plus an expensive re-do I assume that we only take care of the property owners in the former downtown area, and no worries about the needy until they migrate back to the Former Central Ave location area and have to resort to theft against local merchants. Will the local churches, food banks and shelters be able to absorb the influx if it happens? We have a large # of needy in this community. We can't just wish them away or forget that they exist Jmo |
Posted By: LMAO
Date Posted: Oct 10 2012 at 1:06pm
| When you say "family services" are you talking about people that collect welfare? |
Posted By: Middletown29
Date Posted: Oct 10 2012 at 3:16pm
| Middletown Food Pantry |
Posted By: Middletown29
Date Posted: Oct 12 2012 at 4:09pm
| FS buying Gibson Furniture building???????? |
Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Oct 12 2012 at 6:05pm
Ah.....the original Streifthau Hardware building....
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Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: Oct 12 2012 at 7:18pm
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Interesting Good Central location, and a windfall for Ms.Gibson So--how does this solve the lawsuit/debt issue? Vacating the property? Oh boy--assuming ownership of the current location? Same FS leadership?
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Posted By: Middletown29
Date Posted: Oct 13 2012 at 10:36am
| What about all the money spent on current location? |
Posted By: Middletown29
Date Posted: Oct 13 2012 at 12:02pm
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Where is the outrage?
How many times does Maurice get away with wasting and mismanaging money? |
Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Oct 13 2012 at 12:07pm
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Well well Middletown29 Where is your outrage?
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Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: Oct 13 2012 at 2:29pm
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Mr.Maxwell could have done better, though he has little to work with, when compared to the incredible demand for help in this town(thanx 2 our city admin's long-term strategy to ramp up Section 8). Family Services was forced out of their former convenient location under TVM, and into a very inconvenient current location. Mismanaging tax money?? Look no further than decades of expenditures in the former downtown area, and the vacant structures littering the area. "Mothballing" worthless and expensive properties, mostly in the former downtown area. Paying $85,000 for the former Hobby House/Cabinet Shop--$300,000 for the former Office Outfitters property. The Manchester/Sonshine/bank building/Masonic Temple + $100,000+ of "forgiven" loans and debt. 2nd round of storefront improvements to buildings that haven't had a tenant since the first round of improvements(or any interior improvements). The hundre\ds of thousands of $$ plus municipal hours expended in two rounds(over a decade) in failed projects with Duncan Oil.[/
FS is way below on my "outrage scale" more disappointment DIV] Recent robberies this week @ UDF and Speedway? If so--why no press?
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Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Oct 13 2012 at 4:19pm
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One small correction, Spiderjohn: This is the THIRD round of facade improvement grants!!! ------------- “Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012 |
Posted By: Middletown29
Date Posted: Oct 14 2012 at 7:16pm
| Wow Mike thanks for the info! |
Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Oct 14 2012 at 9:48pm
 ------------- “Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012 |
Posted By: Middletown29
Date Posted: Oct 15 2012 at 6:35am
| FS making all the wrong moves... |
Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: Oct 15 2012 at 10:45am
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Maybe so--maybe not Mtown The proposed location has a dock and parking, and a location centralized for the needy FS patrons Far enough away from the "arts" Maybe eligible for one of those "downtown grants"? Still another huge move, which means a huge expense. Another f'n mess imo
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Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Oct 15 2012 at 12:27pm
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Spiderjohn
I think this would be a better location also.
The bus stop is just across the street in front of Denny Lumber. City Hall just doesn't seem to understand that many of the poor people that need these services do not have cars. |
Posted By: ktf1179
Date Posted: Oct 15 2012 at 1:55pm
| I can understand a bus services for a city the size of Dayton and Cincinnati, but not Middletown. Every time I pass these buses I am lucky to see maybe 1 to 5 people on it. If anything, I would prefer a County ran bus system and have it connect to the Dayton RTA and the Cincinnati Metro. That would make more sense than Middletown running there own bus system. |
Posted By: Bill
Date Posted: Oct 15 2012 at 2:02pm
| Middletown's bus service is emblematic of the federal government waste that goes on throughout this country. No one, including our city, does anything about it because its' "free money". |
Posted By: swohio75
Date Posted: Oct 15 2012 at 2:51pm
FS is supposed to be a non profit. The city didn't pick their current location.
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Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: Oct 15 2012 at 3:51pm
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Correct SWOhio
The current location was all that was available at the time, and a very poor choice. Was city ED involved in that selection, in order to fast track the FS exit from Central Ave? Didn't think that city was involved with FS, and don't think that there is much of a relationship between the two. Still-- Admin had a large hand in getting us into the current Section 8 demographics, and now wants it all to magically disappear. It will be here for quite a while longer, and migrating back to the formerly diwntown area. Where else can they go for services? |
Posted By: Middletown29
Date Posted: Oct 16 2012 at 7:14am
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Wow, spider, blame the city for Maurice's incompetence.
That's a good one. |
Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: Oct 16 2012 at 7:50am
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u r such a spinner, mtown I blame the city for a large part of our influx of poverty, crime, business struggles and lagging behind other area communities. we are the laughing stock of the region easy action by media when they need a crime/misery story like our current football team, we don't compete and have forgotten how to win constant mistakes/turnovers and just going through the motions I know--all is well--we'll get'em next time! yes--things are looking up--thanx 2 the out-of-town pros at least the school system seems to be improving, and embracing broad public involvement from everyone tht wants to contribute/participate So---since you continue to throw demeaning accusations, please list the management issues within Family Services Look no further than today's HUD headline and text i. Order to understand the connection between city admin, our demographics, public services strain and Family Services overload/bad decisions.
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