What Low Income housing can do to a Street
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Topic: What Low Income housing can do to a Street
Posted By: Pacman
Subject: What Low Income housing can do to a Street
Date Posted: Dec 26 2008 at 8:54am
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This really irratates me, I just drove down old Roosevelt Rd. as I do almost everyday and if you are heading East you will see the housing complex on the left which has garbage everywhere 24/7. They don't even bother to take the Toters, as the City calls them, to the back out of sight. They just leave then at the curb and then take their garbage to the curb and dump it in the toter. Much of it is just on the ground with some toters laying on their side in the front yard.
There is old furniture, carpet, etc laying out many days of the week. The city does nothing to enforce the regulations on this mess, I feel sorry for the nice homes across the street from this mess that the city perpetuates, as once again another neighborhood has been destroyed by poor planning and lax enforcement by the city. This complex has become a disgrace.
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Posted By: MadisonMom
Date Posted: Dec 26 2008 at 9:15am
| But yet they will enforce signage ordinances. |
Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Dec 26 2008 at 9:32am
Are you talking about those one story brick/siding 4 house connected/ two building houses? My wife and I notice them when we go to Lowes or Wal-Mart. Blinds torn up/ hanging out the windows, trash around, bushes dying, bare spots in the lawn, siding coming loose, and basically have been torn up since newly built several years ago. A "poster picture" for Section 8. Another is Freedom Court by the Lefferson softball diamonds. No pride, no value for the city. Why do city leaders want this, unless there is money to be made by some people leading the charge for this program and who don't care what the city looks like. There are rules on the books for this, I believe. Why isn't Council ordering enforcement of these rules? Incredibly inept! 
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Posted By: Pacman
Date Posted: Dec 26 2008 at 9:38am
Bingo Vet. I ask myself why the City wants this everyday I drive to work and for the life of me I can't figure it out. But as some on Council continually say, "we have to remember who we are, a steel town." Like it is some terminal disease or something.
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Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Dec 26 2008 at 4:49pm
They only enforce sign ordinances against honest business people, NOT council members!!!
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MadisonMom wrote:Posted By: MadisonMom
Date Posted: Dec 27 2008 at 12:47am
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If you report it...they will come.
The dumpster people that is. We complained about the dumpster in our alley behind our building. They were overflowing and smelled something awful before MidFest in 2007. The area I'm talking about was one of MidFest's MAIN entrances. We took photos and e-mailed to a certain person we knew at the city. They were actually inspected and checked on. The business had to explain why their garbage was exploding from their dumpster. We took photos and reported that to the city. The city dumpster people (I don't know what else to call them, without checking my e-mails), actually had a meeting with this business and checked them out for a couple of week. We still have this issue. We still have photos, but have not really complained. This business blames it on "homeless people" and such. That is so untrue. We see what happens. We are in the same building. Our dumpsters are side by side. It isn't as bad as it used to be. The business we complained about, if I mentioned it, you would understand, is doing a community service. So we can only complain/do so much. I have also complained about the smoking, but not directly to the 888 number. |
Posted By: arwendt
Date Posted: Dec 28 2008 at 1:17pm
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I noticed the trash on Old Roosevelt last week also. It may have been around that time that I thought our problem, our problem as a country and as a people, is not that the lower income tiers of our society lack money or support but that the great majority of that segment of the population lack pride in themselves. ------------- “Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power.” Benjamin Franklin - More at my http://wordsoffreedom.wordpress.com/ - Words of Freedom website. |
Posted By: MadisonMom
Date Posted: Dec 28 2008 at 10:42pm
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Lack of pride? How about laziness? I also drove by that area this past saturday 12.27.08, saw it all.
What is the matter with people? I would think as a landlord, this would be a rule. Keep your place cleaned up. Do you feel comfortable throwing your cigarette out your car window when you are done? Do you feel right when you throw your McDonald's bag out the car window? Do you feel right when you are taking a walk down your street/road/avenue/blvd and see trash and not feel the urge to pick it up? Believe me, in my township, we pick up other people's trash on a weekly basis. Beer cans from drinking & driving in the country. Cigarette packs, old tires, bags of McDonalds, etc. You get the idea. If we have a big problem all we do is call the township, they come and clean it up. Especially tires and spray painted porn on the road or street signs. It starts at home! Stop being lazy and clean up your place! The weather is no excuse. Take a plastic bag from the grocery store, take a walk, insert trash into bag, deposit into your trash container. Rumpke will pick it up and take it away to the big dump down south. I keep seeing Middie Pride magnets attached to vehicles around town. I hope their neighborhoods are kept in order. |
Posted By: Pacman
Date Posted: Dec 28 2008 at 11:58pm
MadisonMom this is nothing new about this complex, the current mess that you saw is the norm there. I am sure the city is aware of it, how can they not be. City workers I am sure have driven by it and seen this same type of mess, week in and week out. Yet nothing is done. 
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Posted By: arwendt
Date Posted: Dec 29 2008 at 10:30am
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I said Pride because the way I look at it if people have pride in themselves they find a way to do the right thing instead of waiting for someone elese to do it for them.
If people have pride in themselves they will want to be proud of their property and they will do what it takes to clean it up or improve it.
If people have pride in themselves they will not give up trying to better themselves and their family.
P.S.
I vote we pass a law making it legal to shoot people who throw trash ouf of their car window. ------------- “Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power.” Benjamin Franklin - More at my http://wordsoffreedom.wordpress.com/ - Words of Freedom website. |
Posted By: MadisonMom
Date Posted: Dec 29 2008 at 2:13pm
| Point taken arwendt. |
Posted By: arwendt
Date Posted: Dec 29 2008 at 4:53pm
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I was thinking I could have said Self Respect. But in this context I think Pride is a similar but stronger word. ------------- “Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power.” Benjamin Franklin - More at my http://wordsoffreedom.wordpress.com/ - Words of Freedom website. |
Posted By: middletuckian
Date Posted: Jan 06 2009 at 8:51pm
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these areas like freedom court, maple oak estates, arlington arms, are what the Citizens for Community Values should really target, they just don't care and it makes Middletown look like a mini- Over the Rhine to be.
------------- When all else fails they pack-it-in! |
Posted By: MadisonMom
Date Posted: Jan 06 2009 at 11:20pm
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I know someone who lives in Arlington Arms. She won't do leave or arrive to her place in the dark.
But it's all she can afford. She is in her late 60's, social security and works part time. Arlington Arms used to be a nice place. I took piano lessons there in the late 60's early 70's maybe? My memory is get even getting tired from all of this. What do you expect from Freedom Court, isn't that section 8? Arlington Arms is not correct? |