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Topic: Historic Goetz building for sale
Posted By: Vivian Moon
Subject: Historic Goetz building for sale
Date Posted: Sep 16 2015 at 8:18am
Dayton Business Journal
Sept 15, 2015

Historic Goetz building is now up for sale.
The building is 25,712 square feet and is listed for $190,000, according to an online real estate listing for the building.
http://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/news/2015/09/15/historic-building-in-downtown-middletown-up-for.html




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Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Sep 16 2015 at 8:33am
Well, well...what happened to the big partnership between Mr Robinette and Mr Coon?
What about the money that was given to them for the Rose Furniture building?
Yes sir, everything in downtown Middletown is just ducky.


Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Sep 16 2015 at 8:46am
And did you notice in the lastest article that Mr Adkins didn't say anything about the new business that was to open in the Bank One Building? Soooo..what's the lastest story on this steal of a deal?


Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Sep 16 2015 at 9:10am
Originally posted by Vivian Moon Vivian Moon wrote:

Well, well...what happened to the big partnership between Mr Robinette and Mr Coon?
What about the money that was given to them for the Rose Furniture building?
Yes sir, everything in downtown Middletown is just ducky.


Vivian, wasn't that amount of money about $350,000 or so? Quite a chunk of change and certainly worthy of being accounted for. So, where did the city taxpayer money loan go Mr. Robinette? Anyone in the city building want to take a stab at it? How about you Adkins.

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Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Sep 16 2015 at 9:27am
Vet
The amount was $300,000 for the repair Ewing building, which is now up for sale, and the Rose Furniture building which is nothing more than a pile of rubble....mercy
5/3 Bank gave the Goetz Tower to Mr. Robinette and all the work that has been completed has been done with grant money.


Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Sep 30 2015 at 1:01pm

Posted: 12:35 p.m. Wednesday, Sept. 30, 2015

Another big Hamilton site could become ‘high-end restaurant,’ shops

By  http://www.journal-news.com/staff/chelsey-levingston/" rel="nofollow - Staff Writer

HAMILTON 

The former Fifth Third Bank building in downtown Hamilton could be the next vacant space on High Street to be converted into storefronts and business offices, if a private developer goes through with a deal to buy the building from the nonprofit redevelopment entity CORE Fund.

The CORE Fund has received a letter of intent from the developer behind the Historic Mercantile Lofts in the 200 block of High Street to buy the former bank building located at 2 South Third Street, said CORE director Mike Dingeldein.

“We’re talking about a mixed-use reuse, the center of which would be a high-end restaurant on the main floor,” Dingeldein said.

Canton-based Historic Developers and its principal Steve Coon are behind the renovations of the Mercantile Lofts and the former Journal-News building and has partnered on downtown Middletown properties as well.

“They’re happy working with the city and have been successful,” Dingeldein said.

http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/local/fifth-third-closing-downtown-branch/nNRXH/" rel="nofollow -  It since sold the building to CORE in 2013 for $375,000, according to property records obtained online from the Butler County Auditor’s Office.

Coon has not returned calls from the Journal-News seeking comment.

http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/local/loft-apartments-helping-revitalize-downtown-hamilt/nNYyz/" rel="nofollow -  by Historic Developers to convert three buildings into 29 residential units and five commercial spaces. Commercial tenants include Community Design Alliance, Art Off Symmes, Millikin and Fitton Law Firm, and ACS Title and Closing Services.

http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/arts-help-boost-hamiltons-economic-development/ncYyB/" rel="nofollow -  by Historic Developers into the Butler Tech School of the Arts, Miami Valley Ballet Theatre and the Hamilton City Schools ABLE program. The project finished in mid-2013.

If the newest deal closes, the Fifth Third building would be the first CORE has sold to Coon’s company.

“For a little bit of public leverage, we’re getting lots and lots lots of private leverage,” Dingeldein said.

Launched in December 2012, the Consortium for Ongoing Reinvestment Efforts (CORE) Fund is a private nonprofit that has raised millions from private and public sources to acquire blighted properties and make non-traditional loans to developers for projects in the area of High and Main streets.

http://www.journal-news.com/projects/following-the-money/" rel="nofollow -   http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/core-fund-properties-still-a-hard-sell-to-private-/nnccK/" rel="nofollow - Discussions are also underway to sell the former Hungry Bunny building owned by CORE at 254 High Street to Sara Vallandingham, owner of Sara’s House, a street-level shop in the same building.

“We want to invest here even beyond our business. We want to bring our home here. We want to bring our taxes here,” Vallandingham said. “I think initially we would be more interested in this being a residential/business space for us.”

Meanwhile, CORE Fund has pending deals to buy more properties in the Main Street area.

Most recently, CORE has sealed a deal to buy the building that housed the now-closed Tom’s Cigar Shop and surrounding properties, Dingeldein said.

Dingeldein expected to close Wednesday on the purchase of 205 Main Street,  http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/major-hamilton-main-street-corner-is-next-target-f/nnkzw/" rel="nofollow - To help fund the purchase and renovation of 205 Main Street, Hamilton city council members approved at their meeting Sept. 23 plans to borrow about $700,000 from the Hamilton Community Foundation. The money will be granted to CORE Fund for the building that housed street-level retailer Mazagan Urban Ware at the corner of Main and South C Street, and an adjacent house. The loan would also cover the costs of buying 9-11 South C Street and demolishing those buildings.

“Our hope is… we’ll do to Main Street what we did to the 200 block of High Street,” Dingeldein said.

CORE also plans to buy 302 Main Street, which houses Hughes Pharmacy.


CONTINUING COVERAGE

We do local best: The Journal-News provides regular updates on the activities of the nonprofit Consortium for Ongoing Reinvestment Efforts (CORE) Fund and Hamilton city government’s property purchases.

July 2014: http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/as-core-fund-grows-director-separates-for-profit-n/ngbqt/" rel="nofollow - Nov. 2014:  http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/hamilton-acquires-nearly-200-properties-in-2-year-/nh3Qq/" rel="nofollow - Dec. 2014: http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/local/with-new-business-openings-hamilton-reclaiming-dow/njLCB/" rel="nofollow - Feb. 2015: http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/how-hamilton-landed-largest-job-announcement-in-a-/nkHPb/" rel="nofollow - March 2015: http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/downtown-hamiltons-recovery-making-strides/nkK4y/" rel="nofollow - April 2015: http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/hamiltons-core-fund-leads-new-investment-in-main-s/nkkz7/" rel="nofollow - June 2015: http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/core-fund-property-acquisitions-grow/nmWfL/" rel="nofollow - Sept. 2015: http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/downtown-hamilton-grocery-store-now-open-for-busin/nnXKN/" rel="nofollow - Sept. 2015: http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/core-fund-properties-still-a-hard-sell-to-private-/nnccK/" rel="nofollow - Sept. 2015: http://www.journal-news.com/news/news/major-hamilton-main-street-corner-is-next-target-f/nnkzw/" rel="nofollow -  



Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: Sep 30 2015 at 2:15pm
What am I missing?
What has been accomplished on his Middletown projects?
Is our Rose building $$ funding his Hamilton endeavors?


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: Sep 30 2015 at 2:58pm
Here's my take-aways from the article.

Number One, it is clear both Hamilton and Middletown have identical plans for urban revitalization. In fact, its the same strategy for both. Use a group to buy old properties, then a middle-man to hold them, and then sell them to someone to re-store them, to bring in either business, residents, or both.

Number Two, while Hamilton has successfully been able to take a few of these buildings for commercial use, and then pull in new business which has been primarily telemarketing and the P & G subsidiary, there remains a great amount of buildings left standing with few being bought, leased, or used.

No one can fault either city for working to kick-start their economy and community, but it stands to reason there just isn't enough population growth in either Hamilton and Middletown, to make both, or even one, a success. Of the two, Hamilton is doing better, but lots of excess capacity sitting idle, waiting to be used.

Maybe the real story is Middletown is putting a lot of faith or creating a feeling of progress when its trying to keep up with Hamilton, and many of the projects supposedly in process, are not really moving forward, but in a holding pattern. Mr. Coon just can't have so many projects and investments to be made, when the return and need looks to be less than either expected or communicated. And, while Hamilton has CORE, it looks as if Middletown has relied on the city of Middletown to buy property to be given away.       


Posted By: Perplexed
Date Posted: Oct 01 2015 at 1:35pm
If the Dougmeister and the Fuchmeister could lose up to $75,000 for each NSP-funded purchase/rehab/resale housing boondoggle of a few years back, why would they worry about squandered "former downtown" gambits? When I read the baseless kudos given to Dougie by persons on this forum, it reminds me of the insanity and humor of Marx Brothers movies from the 1930's. Ignorance is certainly bliss for some of you.


Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Sep 24 2016 at 10:12am

I heard last week that the Goetz Tower in downtown Middletown had been sold.
So when I typed in the address of 1000 Central Ave into the Butler County Auditors Office search engine I found no information on the selling of the Goetz Tower…in fact I found no information at all on the Goetz Tower. I then searched under Grassroots which was Mike Robinette’s Corp for this property…no listing.
I then searched by parcel number for the Goetz Tower property….and then I found the following…
Grassroots transferred the property on 9-04-2015 to Historic Goetz Tower LLC and the legal address is now listed as 11 South Main Street.


How can this property be listed with a Main Street address when the front door of the business is listed as 1000 Central Avenue?



Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Sep 24 2016 at 10:27am
BTW...1000 Central Ave is listed as being the Fifth Third Bank drive thru property.



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