Orman Building
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Topic: Orman Building
Posted By: 409
Subject: Orman Building
Date Posted: Aug 09 2012 at 10:15am
 
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Posted By: ground swat
Date Posted: Aug 09 2012 at 10:44am
| 409 is always on the case. That doesn't look good. |
Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: Aug 09 2012 at 10:48am
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heard that the city will try to secure the walls from collapse at a temp fix cost of approx.$75,000 may work--may not expensive band-aid if it doesn't last long, or storms cause more roof damage bad situation concerning Wausau but we knew for a long while that these buildings had to come down and we have many more somewhat similar they won't be getting any more secure tough hit--and maybe more tough hits to come |
Posted By: John Beagle
Date Posted: Aug 09 2012 at 1:46pm
Holy Crap, that building needs to come down but the estimate $500k to $1m seems way too high.
------------- http://www.johnbeagle.com/" rel="nofollow - John Beagle Middletown USA News of, for and by the people of Middletown, Ohio. |
409 wrote:Posted By: Wots
Date Posted: Aug 10 2012 at 11:38pm
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What is the bad situation concerning Wausau? ------------- Wots Liberalism: Moochers Electing Looters to Steal from Producers. |
Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Aug 11 2012 at 6:08am
The “bad situation” is that Wausau is expecting a piece(s)
of equipment to arrive by rail. It must
arrive using the track that you can see in the lower left-hand corner of the
picture on the left above. The railroad
won’t use the track while there is danger that the building might collapse on
the train as it passes by. The city has decided it must temporarily shore up/stabilize
the building so that the railroad can deliver the piece of equipment. It estimates that this will cost about $75
thousand. The city will then get bids to
demolish the building. What might make more sense (and probably be cheaper)
depending upon the particulars, would be to transfer the load from the rail car
before it crosses Verity Parkway. One
would think that there are contractors at AK with a hydraulic crane and the
rigging capabilities to do this for less than the cost of temporarily shoring/stabilizing
the Orman building. Then the savings can go towards the costs of demolishing the structure. From what I can see with Google maps, the rail siding
doesn’t go into any structures on the Wausau property, so they’ll have to have
the same/similar equipment and rigging crew
standing by to off-load the shipment when it arrives anyway. Seems like a no-brainer, but I don’t have all
the facts. Just the musings of an ol’
construction man… ------------- “Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012 |
Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Aug 11 2012 at 12:43pm
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I agree with Mike P. The railroad spur also feeds the city water treatment plant, however chemicals can be trucked in until the building issue is resolved (if they aren't already). The $75,000 may bring down or come close to bringing down the easternmost leg of the "H" shaped building closest to the tracks. From this low-res image the roof is gone from that section. Also some large wood beams may be salvageable. I was in that building years ago when it was Water Refining, but just don't remember. This view is looking west to show the proximity of the track to the building.  |
Posted By: Pacman
Date Posted: Aug 11 2012 at 5:47pm
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Hire a company to demolish the building into a pile of crap, let the train come in, make it's delivery, then haul away the pile of crap. End of story. Pacman  |
Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Aug 11 2012 at 5:57pm
It is likely that the wing of the building nearest the
track can’t be demolished in time. ------------- “Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012 |
Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Aug 13 2012 at 2:51pm
A view looking north. Didn't look from this angle before. The fenced in recess off of Broad St. appears to be an impound lot? |
Posted By: arwendt
Date Posted: Aug 13 2012 at 5:52pm
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All so sad! Anyone know anything about that history of the building? ------------- “Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power.” Benjamin Franklin - More at my http://wordsoffreedom.wordpress.com/ - Words of Freedom website. |
Posted By: rngrmed
Date Posted: Aug 13 2012 at 5:55pm
| Funny how funds can be raised quickly to fix or demolish the Sonshine and Ormans buildings while it took several years to fix the vault at the Middletown cemetary |
Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Aug 13 2012 at 6:47pm
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Apparently the city is going ahead with their more expensive
plan (according to the latest story in The Middletown Journal). In retrospect, I should have had a city hall insider suggest
off-loading the Wausau equipment across the street from the Orman
building. I should have known that they
would never have considered a suggestion from a mere common citizen. In their eyes, what could a mere citizen
possibly know? As with the removal of
the roof over City Centre mall, they simply snicker and say “you don’t
understand…go sit down”. If I would’ve convinced Jim Verdin’s son-in-law or Ms. Bober
to suggest it, it would have been a wonderful idea and we could’ve saved
thousands of dollars. ------------- “Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012 |
Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Aug 13 2012 at 6:53pm
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Second city-owned building found crumbling Staff Writer MIDDLETOWN — A second city-owned vacant downtown building in as many months has partially crumbled due to apparent deterioration. Last week, the Manchester Inn’s Sonshine building, 101 N. Main St., had bricks fall from its facade onto the sidewalk. Access near the building on North Main Street and Manchester Avenue has been blocked by an orange plastic safety fence. “The structure of the building is fine, just the brick facade has come loose,” said Doug Adkins, Middletown community revitalization director. However, the future stability of the building is in question, he said. “The condition of the metal lintels and mortar joints makes it impossible to know the stability of the remaining facade,” Adkins said. Contractors removed loose brick from the building’s facade this past weekend. However, he said metal lintels — load-bearing building components — above the windows on building’s second floor are deteriorating and rusty, and mortar joints were inspected and also found to be deteriorating. The sidewalk next to the building has been blocked from pedestrian access because “high winds or other conditions may trigger further collapse of the weakened facade presenting a hazard to anyone occupying the area below,” Adkins said. Last week the city hired Vickers Wrecking to stabilize the partially collapsed wall and roof of the Orman building, 500 N. Verity Parkway. City officials were notified on July 27 of the partial roof collapse at the northwest wing of the city-owned building. Debris fell from the side of the building — which the walls are protruding — onto the adjacent railroad track. The roof is apparently pushing on the building’s exterior walls, Adkins told city council last week. Issues with the Orman building are forcing the city to raze the building sooner than anticipated, and could cost between $500,000 to $1 million, said City Manager Judy Gilleland. She said this would “wipe out” one of the city’s last remaining downtown project funds, but city staff is looking for grants to help offset some of the cost. The fate of the Sonshine building, and how much that fate will cost the city, is being discussed, Adkins said. “We are still looking at what the options are, possible risk and benefit of each option and then gathering costs and source of funding,” he said. The city will likely address the Orman building’s issues before rendering a decision on the Sonshine building. Bid packets are being prepared to be sent out to potential companies that would be interested in razing the Orman building. Packets had been sent out, but Adkins said they were pulled and reconfigured to reflect the stabilization work to be done this week. A date to open the bids has not yet been set. |
Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Aug 13 2012 at 7:00pm
Do ya suppose the MMFer's are going to friend city hall back $75,000 to help take care of this? 
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Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Aug 13 2012 at 7:04pm
------------- “Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012 |
Posted By: Bill
Date Posted: Aug 13 2012 at 10:15pm
| The city learned from the Obama 2009 stimulus -- don't let a good crisis go to waste. |
Posted By: arwendt
Date Posted: Aug 14 2012 at 10:27am
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Thanks Mr. Presta! ------------- “Sell not virtue to purchase wealth, nor Liberty to purchase power.” Benjamin Franklin - More at my http://wordsoffreedom.wordpress.com/ - Words of Freedom website. |
Posted By: swohio75
Date Posted: Aug 14 2012 at 1:45pm
Mark Albert Thomas, president of the Wardlow-Thomas Pper Company, was also an organizer of the Advance Bag Company with the late James Lawrence, before the turn of the century in 1889.
They later sold their interests to the Col. M. W. Renick in 1906 who became the president of the concern and led it to great success. At some point firm relocated to Lousiana and became now known as the Southern Advance Bag Company.
The Advance Bag Company site still stands and is known as the Orman Building. Eversharp Incorporated took over the building in 1947 and in 1963 the Water Refining Company relocated here.
Thomas' survivors have long history with Middletown and included: one daughter, Mrs. Margaret Crane of South Main Street; two sisters Mrs. M. T. Barnitz and Mrs. C. E. Woodward, of the family residence, four grandchildren, William Crane of Huntington, Long Island, Mrs. William Crawford, Mrs. James Martindale, and Mrs. Ames Gardner, all of Middletown.
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Posted By: Pacman
Date Posted: Aug 14 2012 at 11:20pm
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The only that matters is the last Entity holding the bag, and that would be The City Of Middletown. Pacman  |
Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Aug 14 2012 at 11:38pm
------------- “Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012 |
Posted By: Wots
Date Posted: Aug 22 2012 at 7:06pm
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Mike P Thanks for the responds. ------------- Wots Liberalism: Moochers Electing Looters to Steal from Producers. |