Street Sweeper
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Category: Middletown City Government
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Topic: Street Sweeper
Posted By: jag123
Subject: Street Sweeper
Date Posted: Jun 09 2011 at 2:51pm
Did anyone notice in the City Manager's Upate to Council, that she is for spending more money on contracting street sweeping, rather than the lower cost of buying a new sweeper? I thought we were trying to save money. 
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Posted By: Neil Barille
Date Posted: Jun 09 2011 at 3:41pm
| we can contract out street sweeping but apparently not other functions. ??? |
Posted By: acclaro
Date Posted: Jun 09 2011 at 3:57pm
| Did not the city spend hundreds of thousands on a paving machine to pave the streets from the residents whom petitioned to have their streets paved, which the city has a duty as part of taxation, and which to my knowledge, no neighborhood has come forward to accept this most generous offer, which would be unconstitutional to have residents vote to pay for a service the city is supposed to provide, while diverting those funds to use for payroll, and outsource/ contract the services for street repair? Hence, the city is contracting out the service which is fundamental to its service offering---street sweeping, and uses capital expenditiyres to buy equipment for a street resurfacer which the city is not repaving roads as it should, but based upon a majority vote within a neighborhood, which to date, no neighborhood has taken them up on this incredibly generous offer (I joke). Any wonder census is down about 5,000 people, and 74% of kids in town are eligible for free lunches during school and summer. No wonder they want to close Sunset, the % having money to pay even .25 would seem to be minimal, and the others are swimming at Brown's Run and Wildwood. An example of continued insane acquisitions and motives. |
Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Jun 09 2011 at 4:01pm
Actually, this is probably a smart move. Operating equipment such as street sweepers on the third-world, bombed-out streets of our city must lead to high breakdown rates and excessive maintenance costs!!! ------------- “Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012 |
jag123 wrote:
Posted By: chmoore
Date Posted: Jun 10 2011 at 9:40am
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What might be the explanation for the Aberdeen and Bellemonte resurfacing fiasco? Last summer they did a great job of repaving these two streets. Then, the contractor put down a double yellow stripe on Bellemonte from Milton to Elmo, which common sense said not to do, then they scarified the yellow line which looked hideous. Now another contractor has patched large areas on both streets and the end result is a newly paved/patch work street. Hopefully, someone with the City that was in charge of this lost his job. It wasn't that big of a project. ------------- c.h. moore |
Posted By: ground swat
Date Posted: Jun 10 2011 at 1:31pm
| Thickness issues along with certain parts pitched wrong for proper drainage. What was the city rep. doing during this process last fall other than sitting in his truck. |
Posted By: middletownscouter
Date Posted: Jun 13 2011 at 8:30am
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Probably looking at Sunset pool dreaming about getting to demolish it, since the city has had a strong desire to do that for some time now.
Absolutely shameful that we have to waste our money fixing poor workmanship on a brand new street, but can't open the city's only pool for one summer even with $18k sitting there earmarked for that purpose. |
Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Jun 14 2011 at 7:09am
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Whoops, another "missed opportunity" to save some city taxpayer money....
Journal story... Street sweeping may cost $38K more City delayed purchase of a sweeper. MIDDLETOWN — Hesitation over the purchase of a new city street sweeper could end up costing taxpayers nearly $38,000 At an April 19 meeting, the four City Council members in attendance — Bill Becker, A.J. Smith, Dan Picard and Tom Allen — voted to table the purchase of a new $ 170,793 street sweeper due to budget concerns. At the time the city was looking at a $3.7 million deficit and did not have options for how to fill that gap. ATTA BOYS! Three options here. Buy new and spend money the city doesn't have. Buy a used one from another city and rehab it at a potential lower cost than buying new. Or, have the broken parts machined to repair the broken street sweeper currently owned by the city, certainly less expensive than buying new. The city budgeted $172,000 to buy the new sweeper, meant to replace one of two vehicles that was out of service for much of last year due to mechanical issues, said Public Works Director Dave Duritsch. CAN'T FIND ANYONE TO MACHINE SOME NEW PARTS? CAN'T GET ON THE INTERNET AND LOCATE THE SAME MODELS AND STRIP SOME NEEDED PARTS OFF THE ONES IN THE "JUNKYARD"? MOST PEOPLE WHO ARE ON A TIGHT BUDGET FIX UP THEIR VEHICLES RATHER THAN BUYING NEW. PROBABLY WON'T COST THE $172,000 THAT YOU WERE ORIGINALLY PLANNING ON SPENDING, RIGHT? |
Posted By: Middletown29
Date Posted: Jun 14 2011 at 8:26am
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Hows does Duritsch know it would cost more to contract out street sweeping? Have they requested bids and compared the cost of contracting with doing it with public workers.
I find it hard to believe the City can do it cheaper then a private contractor. Prove it Duritsch!!!!! |
Posted By: acclaro
Date Posted: Jun 14 2011 at 11:01am
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We continue to live in the world of Oz. City uses street sweeper and streets as a political crutch. No street sweeper because of upcominf vote on taking back tax rate, so the street sweeper is held "hostage" although it is federally mandaed by EPA, other fed entities associated with storms. In reality, liquidation of the sweepers owned, the personnel (FTE's) that drive them, and the non expenditure of capital would cost less by outsourcing to West Chester, than buying a new one, buying a used one, or buying a salage one for retrofit parts. Maybe they could get the guy that cleans Kroger's lot to do it cheaper or Superior Blacktop would buy one and do it for $16.20 per mile.
How many cars would bought last year, knowing what the fyure held? Several. Just politics, using a street sweeper to remind voters, about all those great services that might go away. Middletown is in a league of its own, and so is its leadership, or lack of.
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