Housing Stock/Population Decline
Printed From: MiddletownUSA.com
Category: Middletown City Government
Forum Name: Community Revitalization
Forum Description: Middletown Community Revitalization News
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Printed Date: Nov 22 2024 at 5:01pm
Topic: Housing Stock/Population Decline
Posted By: VietVet
Subject: Housing Stock/Population Decline
Date Posted: Mar 11 2011 at 6:54am
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From the Journal...
"Hamilton still first, but more houses now in West Chester Twp. than Middletown" "In the last 10 years, West Chester Twp. surpassed Middletown in total rooftops to become the place in Butler County with the second total most housing units behind Hamilton". "The U.S. Census Bureau put out the Ohio Census numbers Wednesday. Hamilton had a total 27,878 housing units during the Census last year. West Chester Twp. had a total 23,769 units. Middletown, whose population declined in Butler County the most by 5.6 percent, had 23,296 units, according to the Census." "The city has taken a strict stance to create a more balanced housing stock and is now demolishing more houses than it’s building." “We are hoping to capture a more balanced socioeconomic mix within the community,” Kohler said. What horsecrap!  Yeah, that's what we're doing Marty, capturing a "more balanced socioeconomic mix"...How are you going to do that with people in the middle and upper echelon leaving the city and Gilleland and company bringing in more Section 8, low income, welfare people. No, Marty babes, the town is becoming more skewed to the lower levels in your so-called "socioeconomic mix" scheme, hence the building reputation as a ghetto, government hand-out city than middle class as it once was.
Dennis Sullivan (Miami U. economics professor) said the growing housing units in surrounding twps., together with high foreclosures, create self-sustaining decline in Middletown. Hear that Martin....."self-sustaining decline"....how do you explain that? So how's your plan working for ya now? |
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Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Mar 17 2011 at 7:25am
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Today's Journal...
Middletown’s population matches see similar declines Schools’ financial woes, manufacturing job losses blamed; mayor touts rebirth. MIDDLETOWN — The blueprint for Middletown’s resurgence could be found on the streets of Mishawaka. As Mishawaka reinvented itself, the city’s population grew to 48,252 by 2010, according to recently released data from the U.S. Census Bureau. It was one of a handful of similar-sized Midwest cities — including Greenwood, Ind., and Harrisburg, Pa. — that saw growth in the past decade despite a tough economy. Meanwhile, steel-mill towns like Middletown and Mansfield — which were walloped by the recession and manufacturing job losses — saw their populations decrease by 5.6 and 3.1 percent, respectively. Middletown Planning Director Marty Kohler said despite its overall population decline, Census data shows that portions of the city in Warren County grew more than 30 percent in the last decade. Kohler attributes the declines throughout the rest of the city to an older housing stock, some of which is in foreclosure. The city is now demolishing many of those older homes. Yeah, that's it Marty, older housing stock. Couldn't be the fact the city has supplied no decent paying jobs, is infested with Section 8 poverty, the schools are performing poorly, there is no community activity to stimulate people to live here. A high tax rate, poor roads, poor economic planning, a government that is anti-citizen/anti-business friendly .etc. “What’s important is how we meet the future demands of our community,” said City Manager Judy Gilleland. “We’re going through a rebirth in Middletown.” No Judith, we are not going through a "rebirth". We are going through the slow death of a once proud city with no clue how to make it rebound coming from any city leaders. |
Posted By: Hermes
Date Posted: Mar 17 2011 at 9:13am
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A re-birth ?? ------------- No more democrats no more republicans,vote Constitution Party !! |
Posted By: TonyB
Date Posted: Mar 17 2011 at 9:41am
| What seems to be missing from our city leaders is what will replace those demolished houses. You hear no one concerned with empty lots in the middle of residential streets. Are we going to replace those houses and if we aren't, what wll be done with the properties? This city already has a problem paying to mow the grass. Property owners will eventually not pay to keep the property up and will sell or just let it be foreclosed. Unless the city plans to become owner of a lot of residential lots, they'd better come up with something!!! |
Posted By: Bocephus
Date Posted: Mar 17 2011 at 9:55am
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Hermes wrote:Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Mar 17 2011 at 10:24am
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TonyB- "Unless the city plans to become owner of a lot of residential lots, they'd better come up with something!!!"
Don't know how many times over the years we citizens have been told that the city does not intend to be in the real estate business. The city owned property in the past, sold it, and is now acquiring more property, primarily on speculation of it being used. Bad start on that theory as two are already "mothballed" and in disrepair. The theme is to knock down all the old structures, leaving many empty lots.......with no clue what to build on those empty lots and nothing on the horizon pertaining to occupancy. Some game plan. |
Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Mar 17 2011 at 10:57am
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Perhaps they plan to reinvest the PROFITS from the Gage Drive and Elmo Place house sales by building new homes on the empty lots??? ------------- “Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012 |
Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Mar 17 2011 at 11:30pm
March 17, 2011
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Posted By: Storm Ahead
Date Posted: Mar 18 2011 at 12:38pm
| Hooray for Mrs. Moon! Go to the top for information! |
Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Sep 10 2011 at 9:09am
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Today's Journal...
Eyesores are blight on the community and city budget Abandoned, neglected properties also can become health hazards. MIDDLETOWN — City officials say there are more than 300 “blighted homes” that need to be demolished in Middletown. Doug Adkins, the city’s director of revitalization, said his department demolishes about 40 to 50 structures a year, and if there were additional funds, that number would be much higher. For many of those structures — even those with curb appeal — the deteriorated interiors and the excessive cost to rehab them, outweigh the benefits, he said. For instance, why invest $60,000 to remodel a house valued at $50,000, Adkins said. NOW WAIT A MINUTE ADKINS.......TO INVEST MORE MONEY INTO A REMODEL THAN THE HOUSE IS VALUED AT........DOESN'T THE CITY DO THAT ALL THE TIME WITH HUD HOMES? DOESN'T THE CITY USE FED MONEY TO BUY AND REHAB HOUSES AROUND THE CITY AND SELL THEM AT A LOSS? YOUR STATEMENT ABOVE INDICATES THAT YOU THINK IT IS A BAD IDEA.  IF SO, THEN WHY ARE WE DOING IT?
Falling property values in Middletown also can be traced to a supply-demand imbalance, he said IT CAN ALSO BE TRACED TO THE DESIRABILITY TO LIVE IN A COMMUNITY. WE ALL KNOW THAT THE WAY MIDDLETOWN IS OPERATED BY THE TOWN LEADERS IS A DETRIMENT TO ATTRACTING PEOPLE HERE. WE HAVE SOME GREAT HOME VALUES IN THIS TOWN AND WE STILL CAN'T GET PEOPLE TO LIVE HERE. THIS TOWN HAS THE REPUTATION OF BEING RUN VERY POORLY BY THE CITY GOVERNMENT. YOUR CRONIES DECISIONS HAVE BROUGHT THIS TOWN DOWN. Ridding Middletown of its eyesores, Adkins said, not only increases property values immediately, but also lowers the supply of housing, which also raises values. YOU ARE NOT GOING TO RAISE HOME VALUES UNTIL YOU MAKE THIS COMMUNITY A PLACE TO BE DESIRED. RIDDING THE EYESORES CERTAINLY CAN'T HURT, BUT IT AIN'T THE MAIN PROBLEM HERE, IMO. YOU AND YOUR BUDDIES AND THE WAY YOU DO THINGS IS THE MAJOR PROBLEM HERE. |
Posted By: Pacman
Date Posted: Sep 10 2011 at 10:17pm
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Mr, Adkins, What happened to the figure from a few years ago that there were 3000 housing units that needed to be torn down in Middletown? Is the 300 figure in the Journal a mistake, or have we miraculsy rehabed 2700 houses?  PACMAN
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