Union Members Converge On Council Chambers:
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Topic: Union Members Converge On Council Chambers:
Posted By: randy
Subject: Union Members Converge On Council Chambers:
Date Posted: Dec 07 2010 at 8:39pm
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From the Middletown Journal
By Jessica Heffner, Staff Writer Updated 7:26 PM Tuesday, December 7, 2010
MIDDLETOWN — More than 200 area union members and union supporters converged on City Council chambers for tonight’s meeting, during which the city leaders will be deciding whether to send a message to state officials that collective-bargaining laws need to be changed. Council is hearing the first reading on a resolution urging the Ohio General Assembly to reconsider state laws limiting the ability of local governments to control personnel costs through collective bargaining. According to the city, about 75 percent of its annual expenditures go toward personnel. Those costs are expected to increase by $1 million in 2011. Councilman Josh Laubach, who first introduced the possible legislation and has spearheaded the resolution, said he is taking “a beating over this” but that the resolution was meant to help the city gain control over its budgetary costs and was not meant to be anti-labor. Councilman A.J. Smith has publicly spoken against the resolution, stating to take away a union’s ability to arbitrate contracts sends the message that “employees don’t deserve rights.” To each person who got up to publicly speak against the resolution, Smith shook his head in agreement and applauded. No residents turned in public comment cards to speak in favor of the resolution. Full story here: http://www.middletownjournal.com/news/middletown-news/union-members-converge-on-council-chambers-vote-tonight-on-a-resolution-urging-state-to-change-collective-bargaining-laws-1023519.html - Middletownjournal.com------------- Call me for a www.CameraSecurityNow.com" rel="nofollow - www.CameraSecurityNow.com quote 513-422-1907 x357 |
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Posted By: randy
Date Posted: Dec 07 2010 at 8:44pm
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I am just in shock at the way Smith acted!!! Just flat out disrespectful showing on his part. ------------- Call me for a www.CameraSecurityNow.com" rel="nofollow - www.CameraSecurityNow.com quote 513-422-1907 x357 |
Posted By: PattiGal
Date Posted: Dec 07 2010 at 10:08pm
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Did you take any video of the meeting you will be posting, Randy? ------------- "Because nice matters..." |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: Dec 07 2010 at 10:49pm
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Why the surpruise? smith has always been the showman, out for his cuase, not others. The high school kid that led the walkout front and center. The showman leading the Dem effort in southwest Ohio. If this was one of Steve Hightower's company's trying to unionize, guarantee he'd keep his mouth shut. He cares about one thing- getting a job as a firemen and then moving up the union leadership pecking order. Ever notice the fire union chief always running front and center with the Dem running for President- all he needs is his mustache.
No surpise here. For anyone rejoicing for victory over SunCoke, nice move. Just back the annual production to escape the need for the Supreme Court remand, while producing about 95% of the production AK wants. Next move- Monroe, injunctive relief, or checkmate. I say checkmate. Nice play Coke, game over.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: Dec 07 2010 at 11:12pm
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Will there ever be a time action is ever taken with the words on this site, and others? It was going to be an attornel general action on misappropriation on gas funds. It was going to be a petition to have a counil member removed (I suspect Picard) that died a sudden death. Will it now be a petition to have Smith removed? That one has teeth and traction, but probably will never be moved past the board.
Smith works for the citizens, not the union.
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Posted By: wasteful
Date Posted: Dec 08 2010 at 8:51am
Smith's Political Career in Middletown is over. The no ward system will see to that from here on out. I doubt he could get elected to dog catcher now.
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Posted By: Bocephus
Date Posted: Dec 08 2010 at 12:42pm
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[QUOTE=wasteful]Smith's Political Career in Middletown is over. The no ward system will see to that from here on out. I doubt he could get elected to dog catcher now.[/QUOTE Hey don't forget that dog catchers are in the bargaining unit  |
Posted By: LMAO
Date Posted: Dec 08 2010 at 12:46pm
Lost all respect for the former Dog Catcher(A.J.Smith) when he got in the spat with the ladies.
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Posted By: Pacman
Date Posted: Dec 08 2010 at 5:18pm
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Good job Mr. Laubach as for the rest of council you were elected tp represent the people not the 185 employees of the Public Safety Unions.
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Posted By: Nelson...Himself
Date Posted: Dec 08 2010 at 6:42pm
| Did anyone receive a pre-recorded celebratory message today from AJ Smith regarding last evening's City Council meeting? |
Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Dec 08 2010 at 7:00pm
Oh hell no! Just got a recorded message from AJ Smith saying the people have spoken and no resolution will occur to the tune of a 6 to 1 vote. (Thanks Josh for doing the right thing with your 1 vote) Disappointed at Ms. Scott-Jones for going along with the other spineless wonders on this council. Do they not care that the unions are normally not willing to compromise? Do the six that voted this down not care whether the city has any bargaining power at the negotiation table? Do the six that voted this down not care whether the cost legacies of the unions pay and benefit packages end up bankrupting the city as it destroys the city budget? What is wrong with these six people on council? They don't have a clue as to the meaning of the words logic and competency. Clean 'em all out and leave Laubach as the new anchor of a competent thinking council next time. It's the only way we can change this cluster........ Bad decision from you six members.  You have hurt this city now and in the future for not pursuing this. You cowered down to the greedy little union people. Most don't care about the city. Most of them don't live here, so the only thing most of them care about in Middletown is protecting their paychecks.......and you wimped out from their "harsh" talk. You should have told them to live with it that the city is pursuing a change in negotiations and to butt out if they came from Dayton. It ain't none of Dayton's business.
Mr. Smith, I didn't appreciate your canned, pre-recorded message sent to my number telling me "the people have spoken". Nonsense, the council cowered down behind the desk. I don't agree with you bud. You are on the wrong side and you are too blind to see it. |
Posted By: Pacman
Date Posted: Dec 08 2010 at 8:21pm
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Glad my number is unpublished and unlisted.
I agree Vet I don't quite understand Mrs. Scott-Jones logic as no one was saying take away any benefits, but the City employees should be contributing more to their health care than the minimum amount they do now. As I have said before even Federal employees pay more.
Also Becker was a surprise after the numerous times that he gives his little speech about something needing to be done with Public safety Payroll.
No more Public Safety Levy for me. Enough is enough. If you can't get them to come to a reasonable agreement then you have to go to the extreme which means layoffs. I particularly didn't care for the Union veiled threats last night and condescending behavior.
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Posted By: tomahawk35
Date Posted: Dec 08 2010 at 11:23pm
| Speaking of unions, What ever happen to the union brothers cashing their brother's checks when AK was on strike? I never did hear the final results plus I wouldn't want a brother like that. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: Dec 09 2010 at 11:29am
| He was promoted to union treasurer, but it has to await until he concludes his 24 month sentence for theft. |
Posted By: randy
Date Posted: Dec 09 2010 at 1:16pm
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I heard about this voice mail and I also heard from some very important people around town today and they are not happy about this voice mail. Again one more classless act by Mr. Smith ------------- Call me for a www.CameraSecurityNow.com" rel="nofollow - www.CameraSecurityNow.com quote 513-422-1907 x357 |
Posted By: LMAO
Date Posted: Dec 09 2010 at 1:32pm
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Pacman wrote:Posted By: Nelson...Himself
Date Posted: Dec 09 2010 at 1:38pm
| Is it true that there have been recent sightings of a notable Middletonian wearing his Obama jacket again? |
Posted By: Bocephus
Date Posted: Dec 09 2010 at 2:07pm
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Obama is a confused mess these days,even his socialist buddies are mad at him for his willingness to deal with republicans on tax breaks for the wealthy .Guess someone may have to explain to a "notable Middletonian"
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Posted By: TANGO
Date Posted: Dec 10 2010 at 4:55am
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I was at the meeting and for the record most of those union people were from as far way as Tipp city Columbus cinn. Their scare tactic worked on council, I will admit that the resolution may have needed a little clarification,Picard should have give his thoughts before and not used it to find a way out of voting for the legislation. AJ boy what piece of work,didn't surprise me any. Hes the unions rep. in this meeting they were their because they listened to him thats very weak when the unions are letting AJ smith lead them. Josh my advice to you is to the coarse and you must learn that the people like AJ are simply out for anybody they can mislead with BS like he pulled on you at meeting, He useless thats why he has talks all the time and asks dumb questions, robo calls(he found that tactic in obama)
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