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greygoose
MUSA Resident Joined: May 19 2012 Status: Offline Points: 158 |
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Hi Spider,
Its good to see that there is still an "honest" voice posting on this board. You have a much stronger stomach for the BS than I do, thus I just check in periodically. Grey Goose |
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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Middletown29
MUSA Citizen Joined: Mar 30 2011 Status: Offline Points: 474 |
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Is that a promise Vivian?
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spiderjohn
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 01 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2749 |
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thanx goose
glad 2 c that u r still out there don't b so shy! the bs comes from everywhere, and is pretty easy w wade thru without getting 2 messy I very much appreciate Ms.Moon's effort and informative postings glad that she is not intimidated by the dark side of our city we need more like her to bring openness/honesty/transparency we don't have 2 always agree
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Pacman
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612 |
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GG,
It is recollection that the letter from HUD to the City gave the city 3 options: 1 Show a reduced need for S8 vouchers, which the city most likely can not do. 2 transfer the program to BMHA. While this may have an immediate affect on the number of vouchers in Middletown, over time you may see some reduction in vouchers. 3 bring the number of vouchers in use in Middletown to 95% or face legal action. Pacman |
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over the hill
MUSA Citizen Joined: Oct 19 2012 Location: middletown Status: Offline Points: 952 |
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Well, Pacman, You didn't have any trouble understanding the violations or the options. Why is city council so blind that they want to follow Doug Atkins down the Primerose Path to distruction. Has Ms Gilleland forgotten her name is at the top of the page as EXCECUTIVE ADMINISTRATOR of the program. She too may have egg on her face.
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SEEKING THE TRUTH
MUSA Resident Joined: Oct 17 2012 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 62 |
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Wonder what Mr Faulkner was talking about with the water bills and section 8 voucher holders. Was there fraud by the city demanding voucher holders to pay bills that have nothing to do with the program or there unit seems that judy and doug got uneasy real quick when he brought it up anybody know anything about this?
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VietVet
MUSA Council Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
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Journal story....
MIDDLETOWN HOUSING Middletown to HUD: We’re going to reduce Section 8 vouchers MIDDLETOWN — Middletown officials aren’t backing away from their five-year plan to reduce the city’s complement of Section 8 housing vouchers by more than 1,000 despite objections from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development. Doug Adkins, the city’s director of community revitalization, said HUD officials “have their own issues to deal with beyond us.” Adkins was referring to HUD Secretary Shaun Donovan’s recent testimony before Congress about the impact of the across-the-board federal spending cuts — known as the sequester — on Section 8 vouchers. Donovan testified the March 1 sequestration “would have devastating effects on homelessness and on other vulnerable groups that HUD works with on housing needs across the country.” “They would anticipate 125,000 vouchers would be losing funding almost immediately,” Adkins said. “We may be off their radar for a little while.” THAT'S IT? THAT'S THE REASONING HERE? WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO AGGRAVATE HUD BECAUSE THEY ARE DISTRACTED AND WE MAY BE OFF THE RADAR FOR AWHILE? WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE ARE BACK ON THEIR RADAR DOUG? I LIKE THIS PART..... City officials contend Middletown has more Section 8 housing per capita than any other city in Ohio. Section 8 vouchers account for 49.8 percent of all subsidized housing and 14.3 percent of all available housing in Middletown, officials say. Too much Section 8 can impact the overall image of the city and hinder progress and economic development, they say YA GOTTA BE KIDDIN' ME!!!! DUH. HOW LONG HAVE WE ALL BEEN SAYING THAT THE SUPERSATURATION OF THE CITY OF SECTION 8 WOULD AFFECT THE IMAGE, INCREASE CRIME, ETC???? NOW......NOW, THESE CLOWNS IN THE CITY BUILDING COME OUT WITH "TOO MUCH SECTION 8 CAN IMPACT THE OVERALL IMAGE OF THE CITY"??? HELL, THEY ARE THE ONES WHO INVITED ALL THIS CRAP IN HERE FOR THE ALMIGHTY FED DOLLARS THAT IT WOULD BRING. GOOD LORD! THESE PEOPLE MUST GO. Section 8 landlords and other supporters of the program argue drastically cutting vouchers will have more of a negative impact on the city than officials think Because of all the jobs lost in recent years, Tracy said the need has increased. And until the need is reduced, the vouchers shouldn’t be reduced NO TRACY. THE REASON YOU AND THE OTHER LANDLORDS DON'T WANT IT STOPPED IS BECAUSE IT'S A MONEY-MAKER FOR YOU AND YOU, LIKE ANYONE ELSE, DON'T WANT TO SEE THE MONEY TAP TURNED OFF. MERCY. |
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I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over.
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ktf1179
MUSA Citizen Joined: Mar 19 2012 Status: Offline Points: 518 |
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"Government is like that creepy guy offering candy in a unmarked van. Sure the candy tastes good, but you will regret it in the end"
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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If people on the East End of town could sell their houses tomorrow for what they are worth we would need to hire an extra policeman just to direct traffic for all the 5,000 moving vans trying to get onto I-75. |
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ktf1179
MUSA Citizen Joined: Mar 19 2012 Status: Offline Points: 518 |
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I know in the Ayrshire neighborhood, there has been a lot of people buying foreclosures recently, and flipping them. 801 Dover Ave, 5120 Phillip Ct., & 500 Boylston St are currently being flipped. Let's hope these investments in flipping houses results in a better Middletown.
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Pacman
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612 |
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Mr Adkins,
Move along with your plan. It seems to be the only hope of Middletown ever having a chance of reducing it's S8 vouchers. Pacman |
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Bill
MUSA Citizen Joined: Nov 04 2009 Status: Offline Points: 710 |
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This whole S8 thing is like shuffling the deck chairs. The real question is - how can demand for houses, either through ownership or non-S8 renters, be increased? And how can more employment be created?
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Pacman
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612 |
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Bill,
This city will never create 1662 jobs in a reasonable amount of time to have any effect on S8. Pacman |
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over the hill
MUSA Citizen Joined: Oct 19 2012 Location: middletown Status: Offline Points: 952 |
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Pacman, You don't have to create 1662 jobs to have an impact on the health of the city. There are elderly and disabled people holding those vouchers,too.If our "community revitilation" director was actually trying to "revitilize" our city instead of concentrating all his attention on fighting sec 8, maybe he could think out side of the box and acually do some good for our city with fresh ideas for bringing JOBS to our city same for Ms G and all of city council! IMO
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Pacman
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612 |
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You are right OTH, we actually need more than 1662 jobs to bring this city out of it's decline. The problem is where and how will we find these jobs in this city?
I am referring to jobs that pay more that $15 per hour not the minimun wage jobs.
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over the hill
MUSA Citizen Joined: Oct 19 2012 Location: middletown Status: Offline Points: 952 |
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I can't think of ANY city lately,that has created 1662 jobs,and certainly not $15 an hour ones,but 200 would be a mircle in this city.I'd be thankful for ANY we could get to come to this town with a desent pay.
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