A 6th grader

Journal Police briefs- 11/22/2012....

Three Middletown High School students — two girls and one boy — were charged after a fight escalated in the hallways and a staff member was injured. When John Landers tried to break up the fight between two female students, he hit his arm and wrist on the metal lockers and he was treated by a school nurse. One girl was charged with felonious assault, assault, and disorderly conduct; another was charged with assault and disorderly conduct; and a male student was charged with disorderly conduct because of his cussing and interference with school officials.

STILL THINK THERE IS NO NEED FOR CORPORAL PUNISHMENT IN THE SCHOOLS? STILL THINK THAT KINDER/GENTLER STILL WORKS? WHEN WILL IT BE TIME TO CRACK DOWN HARD ON THESE LITTLE OUT OF CONTROL "DARLINGS"? WHEN WILL THE SCHOOLS TAKE CHARGE AND ACTUALLY DEAL OUT SOME "PAIN" INSTEAD OF THE OLD WRIST SLAPPING METHODS THAT NEVER WORK? WHY DO THE SCHOOL PEOPLE, THE COPS AND JUDGES IN THE COURT SYSTEM CODDLE THESE KIDS? SEND THEM AWAY TO A "TOUGH LOVE" PROGRAM IN THE PRISON SYSTEM. GET 'EM AWAY FROM THE OTHERS AND BREAK 'EM DOWN.

rngrmed wrote: There were no school fights in 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's when the schools had corporal punishment?

Don't know about the 30's and 40's. Before my time. Yep, there were fights. Usually off school grounds after school. Didn't see any at Wilson Elementary in the middle to late 50's. 6th graders didn't pick too many fights. Saw some in the early 60's at Roosevelt Jr. High, but none at Middletown High (now old Vail downtown). They were dealt with by the Dean of Boys/Girls at the school using physical punishment (at least through the 60's) The parents supported this. Very few repeat offenders. Schools didn't have "Resource Officers" then. Kids were put in line out in the hallways with a teacher as a witness. Some were also put in line when they got home by dad. Can't vouch for what happened after I exited the system. Just know that the schools have adopted an approach that has led us to what we see today.

Med:

"I'm not saying I am opposed to the idea. I just don't buy that it is a deterrent. Some kids are going to cause trouble. Fact of life."

ALRIGHT MED, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR SUGGESTION FOR THE DETERRENT? OBVIOUSLY THE CURRENT WAY OF DISCIPLINE IS NOT WORKING. I BELIEVE THE PADDLING IN THE OLD DAYS WORKED, BUT IF YOU DISAGREE, WHAT WOULD YOU DO NOWADAYS TO DISCIPLINE THE TROUBLE KIDS? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE CORPORAL PUNISHMENT RETURN, INCLUDING A "TOUGH LOVE" PROGRAM IN COOPERATION WITH THE PRISONS FOR REPEAT OFFENDERS. SOME HAVE SUGGESTED WE CREATE A SEPARATE SCHOOL FOR THE TROUBLEMAKERS TO ISOLATE THEM FROM THE OTHERS. MIGHT NOT BE A BAD IDEA. I STILL ADVOCATE THE HARD LINE APPROACH. SINCE SOME PARENTS CHOOSE NOT TO GET INVOLVED WITH THEIR KID'S BEHAVIORAL ISSUES, I GUESS SOCIETY HAS TO TAKE OVER SINCE WE CAN'T HAVE A FEW RUIN IT FOR THE MAJORITY. BOTTOM LINE......WHAT METHOD WOULD BE MOST EFFECTIVE TO ELIMINATE THE TROUBLEMAKERS?

BY THE WAY, PERHAPS KNEPSHIELD DIDN'T SWING THE PADDLE HARD ENOUGH TO LEAVE A LASTING IMPRESSION.

Med:

"There is no one solution for everyone". AGREE, BUT SWATS (OR THE THREAT OF SWATS) SEEMED TO WORK FOR THE MAJORITY.

Med:

"Swats will deter some, but not all. Some kids get beat on a daily basis at home for things far less than a fight. Do you these kids are afraid of a few swats?"

NOPE, BUT I WILL, ONCE AGAIN, SUGGEST THAT THE ONES WHO WON'T STRAIGHTEN UP AFTER A FEW SWATS, AND ARE REPEAT OFFENDERS, GET ASSIGNED TOUGH LOVE BOOT CAMP AT THE PRISON, ASSIGNED THROUGH THE COURTS. SAW SOME PROGRAMS ON THIS WITH THE KIDS COMING INTO PRISON WITH THAT "I'LL WHIP THE WORLD" LOOK ON THEIR FACE AND AFTER A FEW DAYS (HOURS), THE HARD CORE PRISONERS HAVE THEM CRYING AND WANTING MOMMA. PERHAPS THAT'S THE SOLUTION FOR THE MOST HARDCORE.   

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