02/21/2012 council meeting

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While Councilwoman Mort is correct that there are many 
“streets and buildings and parks named after people” in Middletown, I don’t believe that
there are any public streets, public buildings, or public
parks named after LIVING persons.  Did I
miss Mr. Goodman’s obituary???  

If this unwise, egotistical precedent is allowed to move forward, I
have an excellent suggestion for Mr. Barge and his neighbors along the hydraulic
canal:  Submit a petition to rename the
hydraulic canal “The Lawrence P. Mulligan, Jr. Canal”!!!  We would then soon see action on the city’s
part to turn the canal from a cesspool into a showplace, and eliminate it as a
nuisance and a blight upon the neighborhood.

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Mike_Presta Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Council Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mike_Presta Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: 02/21/2012 council meeting Posted: Feb 22 2012 at 1:37am
	While Councilwoman Mort is correct that there are many “streets and buildings and parks named after people” in Middletown, I don’t believe that there are any *public* streets, *public* buildings, or *public* parks named after *LIVING* persons. Did I miss Mr. Goodman’s obituary??? If this unwise, egotistical precedent is allowed to move forward, I have an excellent suggestion for Mr. Barge and his neighbors along the hydraulic canal: Submit a petition to rename the hydraulic canal “The Lawrence P. Mulligan, Jr. Canal”!!! We would then soon see action on the city’s part to turn the canal from a cesspool into a showplace, and eliminate it as a nuisance and a blight upon the neighborhood.
	“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012

VietVet Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Council Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008	Post Options Post Reply Quote VietVet Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Feb 22 2012 at 6:42am
	MIKE- She might have been talking about Robert Millan who died Saturday. He was Chairman of First National Bank of SW Ohio. His obit is in the Journal. Went to school with his daughter Cinda and her husband Kent. The man did alot for Middletown over the years and was involved in alot of activities. Just sitting here wondering what he might have thought of the way Middletown has turned out after all these years. Think he might have been disappointed?

Mike_Presta Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Council Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mike_Presta Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Feb 22 2012 at 6:50am
	Vet, No…she was definitely speaking of Mr. J. Knight Goodman. They even had a picture of the proposed sign in the workbook. Landen will be preparing legislation for the next council meeting. PS: I agree with your comments about the late Mr. Millan, and I would support having Bicentennial Commons renamed after him.
	“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012

Mike_Presta Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Council Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mike_Presta Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Feb 22 2012 at 7:27am
	Vet, You’ll like this: Our anxious-to-get-out-of-the-real-estate-business city government has been trying to buy all of the property on the west side of Main Street in the first block off Central. (This according to several people from Art Central Foundation who spoke during Citizen Comments last evening.) They were also trying to run off ACF from the Temple Building, even though ACF has: · Paid their own way · Been a good civic partner · Invested both sweat and money into the Temple Building It seems that the City wants to tear down this HISTORIC building!!! It seems that the City is quite fickle about their art and artists, and only feels that there is room for a limited amount!!! It also seems like they are fickle about HISTORIC buildings (and ignorant about their very own Historic Ordinance 1210!!! I haven’t seen any minutes from the Historic Commission addressing and approving any change in status for the Temple Building.)
	“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012

Richard Saunders Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Resident Joined: Jun 30 2010 Status: Offline Points: 232	Post Options Post Reply Quote Richard Saunders Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Feb 23 2012 at 4:09am
	If Annie wants to play big shot by rewarding all of her campaign donors and other pals with parks named after them, maybe Annie should at least pay all of the costs associated with the re-naming out of her own personal pocketbook. After all, our city is going broke isn’t it? That’s what Judy wants us to believe. We can’t even afford police and fire protection but we can afford to let Annie show off her new found clout by wasting perfectly good signs and replacing them with monuments to her cronies? I’m sure that all City employees will have to take time off from their duties to attend some sort of ceremony as well, right Annie? Great photo op, though, for her and the mayor.

Mike_Presta Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Council Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mike_Presta Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Feb 23 2012 at 6:53am
	Quite ironic, isn’t it??? Both Annie and Mayor Muggsie will soon be voting to move the discussion of the people’s business upstairs and *AWAY* FROM the view of any cameras. But you can bet your sweet bippy that they will be calling for every media camera around to cover any ribbon-cutting or dedication ceremonies. That kind of shows you where their hearts are—and they are *NOT* on the side of the people!!!
	“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012

ground swat Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Citizen Joined: Mar 31 2011 Status: Offline Points: 367	Post Options Post Reply Quote ground swat Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Feb 23 2012 at 7:26am
	Did not get a chance to see meeting yet but did see 5min of Cristo talking as if he had marbles in his mouth. Were those answers he was giving that council seemed happy with??

Vivian Moon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187	Post Options Post Reply Quote Vivian Moon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Feb 23 2012 at 9:28am
	ground swat The approval of this property for 216 new apartment units was an insult to any thinking resident of Middletown. Mr. Kohler nor Mr. Cristo could tell us how many 1 bedroom, 2 bedroom or 3 bedroom units were going to be built in this complex. They also didn’t know the cost per square foot of these rentals. Do you really believe the answers or should I say non answers to these questions? Do you really believe that if they can only rent 150 of these units that they will not rent the other 66 units as Section 8 at 110%? Did you hear Mr. Mulligan say that they have NO control over who these apartments are rented to? Yep this is the new reduction Section 8 Plan for the City of Middletown…dump them on Warren County.

Bill Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Citizen Joined: Nov 04 2009 Status: Offline Points: 710	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bill Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Feb 23 2012 at 10:23am
	I can't get over AJ's silly bluetooth hanging from his ear. How ridiculous.

VietVet Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Council Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008	Post Options Post Reply Quote VietVet Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Feb 23 2012 at 10:25am
	Did you check out the workbooks from the past concerning this parcel of land? There are letters signed by the folks living around the proposed site of these apartments that were opposed to building the complex on a past proposal. Seems they were concerned about the place becoming low income and voiced concern for what usually transpires with Section 8---IE- more crime, lower property values, image, etc. Looks like they will not be listened to by council as per standard operating procedure of citizen exclusion. I agree Vivian....looks like another opportunity for a builder (friend of city hall?) to construct some low income apartments down around Wal-Mart so that the city can up the count and do some more "city trashing". I can understand the majority of council approving crap like this. They are the nimrods who continue to wreck the city. What I don't understand is Mr. Laubach and Ms. Scott-Jones going along with all of this. Thought they might offer us some hope. But then again, maybe not. Sad to see.

acclaro Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 01 2009 Status: Offline Points: 1878	Post Options Post Reply Quote acclaro Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Feb 23 2012 at 10:30am
	If you read the workbook Mr. Presta kindly provided the link, it said with specificity, the intent was to build apartments for "high income earners." But, it won't be high income earners, which was the motto of Joe Mulligan during the election what Middletown needs, it will be more section 8, they just will put them close to Walmart so they can walk over, use their food stamp debit card, and then give plasma for $50. at Bioscience. That is the 'new' Middletown of the past 20 years.

Vivian Moon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187	Post Options Post Reply Quote Vivian Moon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Feb 23 2012 at 12:50pm
	When the high end apartments known as Trinity Place were built they had to put some Section 8 there in order to fill the complex...I believe the same will happen with these apartments.

Stanky Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Resident Joined: Jul 04 2011 Status: Offline Points: 193	Post Options Post Reply Quote Stanky Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Feb 23 2012 at 3:23pm
	Why does the city want to tear down the Temple building? A parking lot? seriously?

acclaro Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 01 2009 Status: Offline Points: 1878	Post Options Post Reply Quote acclaro Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Feb 23 2012 at 5:26pm
	Steve Dillman's store ran out of room for the semi's so the city wants to use the space after the Temple is torn down. Also, it competes with PAC, so that's the second justification.

Vivian Moon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187	Post Options Post Reply Quote Vivian Moon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Feb 24 2012 at 4:17am
	Stanky - Why does the city want to tear down the Temple building? A parking lot? seriously? Stanky The Temple Art Group came before City Council to request the Temple Building be donated to their group. It was the same action that the Middletown Historical Society did last year when they request the Bank One Building be donated to their group. None of the buildings that the city has purchased will be torn down anytime soon because they want to be part of Main Street USA. CHAPS was at the meeting to support the City’s investment in restoration of all the old downtown building. Didn’t you notice Mr. Mulligan smiling as they stood up and spoke to save all of the old building on Main Street. Just another dog and pony show for the public.