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   Last night the Mayor implemented a new set of rules and standards for city council. This after Sundays Middletown Journal quoted Mayor Mulligan saying he liked a free flow of ideas and healthily debate and would keep things set that way and see what happens. It looks like the Mayor had a change of heart on the topic. 

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randy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Official Joined: Jan 13 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1586	Post Options Post Reply Quote randy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: In Case You Missed It Posted: Oct 20 2010 at 11:42am
	Last night the Mayor implemented a new set of rules and standards for city council. This after Sundays Middletown Journal quoted Mayor Mulligan saying he liked a free flow of ideas and healthily debate and would keep things set that way and see what happens. It looks like the Mayor had a change of heart on the topic. [SCRIPT] var so = new SWFObject('http://www.middletownusa.com/mediaplayer.swf','NewRulesSet ForCouncilVideo','400','300','8'); so.addParam('allowfullscreen','true'); so.addVariable('file','http://www.middletownusa.com/video/Mayor%27s+New+Rules%5Fconverted%2Eflv'); so.addVariable('overstretch','true'); so.addVariable('backcolor','0xFFFFFF'); so.addVariable('autostart','false'); so.addVariable('height','300'); so.addVariable('width','400'); so.addVariable('overstretch','fit'); so.addVariable('image','http://www.middletownusa.com/video/previews/Mayor%2DRules%2Ejpg'); so.addVariable('logo','http://www.middletownusa.com/video/data/musa-logo.png'); so.write('NewRulesSet ForCouncil'); [/SCRIPT]
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VietVet Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Council Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008	Post Options Post Reply Quote VietVet Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Oct 20 2010 at 12:01pm
	Just out of curiosity, what would have happened if the majority of council would have disagreed to these rules? Is there a way for the majority of council to overrule the wants of the mayor or does the mayor have the ultimate sayso how it will be on limiting speaking time and placing such harsh restrictions to inhibit free flowing conversation?

Bill Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Citizen Joined: Nov 04 2009 Status: Offline Points: 710	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bill Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Oct 20 2010 at 1:25pm
	while the taking turns thing is a little awkward I would hardly say it is a "harsh restriction". Members are given plenty of time to share opinions.

Pacman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pacman Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Oct 20 2010 at 5:32pm
	Bill it can be restrictive when you go around the table on an important issue and listen to say 3 minutes each of discussion, which is about 20 minutes and in that time listening to the others you develop questions but you have already had you second chance at speaking. Now they are going to vote on whether you can continue the discussion and be allowed to ask your questions or even make a statement concerning what was said. Just look at last night one more vote and you wouldn't be allowed to ask your question even if it was the deciding factor for your vote. It is just going from one extreme to another for no reason. A simple Gavel bang on the table would have put a stop to the mess two weeks ago, instead we get this. There is no need for it. This is not the House of representatives where 435 people spend more time kissing ass and being sarcastic to each other than they do conducting the countries business. This is 7 people soon to be 5 who need to interact for the well being of the city and with the Cities Administration. Which currently is not occurring much of the time.

Voice of Reason Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Resident Joined: Oct 13 2010 Location: Williams Status: Offline Points: 69	Post Options Post Reply Quote Voice of Reason Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Oct 20 2010 at 9:48pm
	I don't think the rules are that big of a deal myself. It establishes order and procedure, and if the rules prove too awkward they can be changed. The basic point is that at least there won't (or shouldn't be) the talking-over each other that precipitated the last outburst.
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Pacman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pacman Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Oct 20 2010 at 9:56pm
	Personally, I think it stifles the conversation and once a motion to continue the discussion to answer questions is voted down it is to later to change then. A more level headed approach would have been to just maintain civil decorum and the Mayor should see it is maintained. There are bound to be heated discussions at times it is just the nature of the beast. This seems to be an overreaction, just as the outburst two weeks ago was.

rngrmed Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Citizen Joined: May 06 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 309	Post Options Post Reply Quote rngrmed Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Oct 20 2010 at 11:10pm
	What happens if a council member speaks out of turn or talks to long? Larry takes away their birthday???

Pacman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pacman Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Oct 21 2010 at 9:13am
	rngrmed, they have to go stand in the corner and wait for those fabulous timer lights to come on, you know the ones that tell us Citizens its time to shut up and sit down.

rngrmed Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Citizen Joined: May 06 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 309	Post Options Post Reply Quote rngrmed Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Oct 21 2010 at 9:31am
	Are we taking bets on who will be the first to break the "new rules"? Wonder what happens if a council member was to say something "ridiculous" during their turn causing one of the "4" to speak out of turn?

angelababy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Resident Joined: Aug 04 2010 Status: Offline Points: 103	Post Options Post Reply Quote angelababy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Nov 08 2010 at 1:45am
	Members are given plenty of time to share opinions.