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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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Posted: Sep 14 2015 at 7:58am |
Posted: 12:00 a.m.
Monday, Sept. 14, 2015
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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Posted: 6:08 p.m.
Wednesday, Sept. 16, 2015 Public hearing next step for open container
area
By Ed Richter Staff Writer City
Council heard a presentation from Law Director Les Landen and Public Safety
Director David VanArsdale on the proposed plan to establish a DORA in a
half-mile space within the city’s entertainment district during its meeting
Tuesday. After
the presentation, there were a couple general questions about the statute, but
council members said they wanted to hold a public hearing on the proposal to
gather more input from residents and businesses. Landen said the new law gives
council the option to hold a hearing or not. Landen
thinks the legislation to authorize the DORA would be before council in
November. “Upon
adoption we notify Division of Liquor Control, which issues permit holders
within DORA an outdoor refreshment area designation,” Landen said in an email.
“(There’s) No timeframe for that in the statute.” “This
is new law, so we’re working our way through things,” said City Manager Doug
Adkins. The
DORA is designed to assist several downtown establishments and enhance the
budding downtown entertainment district has been completed. The
proposed DORA is bounded by Clark Street, Manchester Avenue, South Canal
Street, Columbia Avenue including Donham Plaza, North Main Street, including
the buildings on the northwest corner of North Main and Central Avenue, Central
Avenue to the Great Miami River and around the southern edge of Forest Hills
Country Club, Water Street and around the American Legion on South Main Street
to First Avenue, to South Canal Street, to Reynolds Avenue to Curtis Street to
Central Avenue back to Clark Street. City
officials said the DORA’s area can be adjusted as necessary. In
that area, there are five state liquor permit holders: At the Square; Murphy’s
Landing; The Canal House; The American Legion; and According
to the proposed plan, the DORA will be in operation from 6 p.m. to midnight on
Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays and at any other times established by the
chief of police with the concurrence of City Council through a council motion. For
large special events, the city may require the organizer to hire off-duty
police officers for safety reasons. The city will be adding 10 trash
receptacles to the 32 already in the DORA, and the city’s collector will
service all receptacles once a week with additional collections as needed. While
this would be an open container area, the beverages would be required to be
purchased at establishments within the DORA, city officials have said. Patrons
can purchase and walk around with a beverage, but they cannot take that
beverage into another establishment. It also does not allow people to bring
their own beverages into that area and drink there. City officials also said
that public intoxication ordinances would be enforced as well as open container
law for people bringing in their own beverages. The
law, House Bill 47, allows cities or townships with populations ranging from
35,000 to 50,000 to designate one “outdoor refreshment area” where people could
legally walk outside with open containers of alcohol, exempting them from The
law could have a significant economic impact not only in
I thought Downtown Middletown Inc. wanted to make the downtown area “family
friendly”. Why does downtown |
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Dean
MUSA Resident Joined: Apr 15 2014 Status: Offline Points: 162 |
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Its always bizarre when contradictions surface, and a degree of hypocrisy.
So the motive for the new law associated with alcohol is a revenue generator. The city adamantly opposes the marijuana plant aimed for Middletown, which would dwarf revenue from the ability to walk from one bar to another, or restaurant, with a alcohol license. Not for pot legalization for rec use, but really a contrast in belief by the city as to what is right and wrong. Head scratcher. |
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spiderjohn
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 01 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2749 |
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so--u can buy a drink at one of the 3 downtown businesses selling liquor
u can carry it outside in this wide area but u cannot carry it in to another business(or can u carry it in to another district-located business NOT selling liquor IF allowed by the business?) what about the bash, and other outside events also selling liquor? can u carry anything in to those events? how will police monitor usage and origin over this area? do police have time for this(I think probably not)? nbd no game-changer this is a city priority? |
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itsamee
MUSA Resident Joined: May 03 2013 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 154 |
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Spider,
I think this could be a game changer as it might attract businesses and festivals based on the idea that they could offer something other cities cannot. Being able to have a beer outside would actually be a benefit to many. While you could see stupid people exploit it, I think the majority of people would be fine with it (no different than at the bash).
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Itsa me, mario!
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acclaro
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 01 2009 Status: Offline Points: 1878 |
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Game changer? Mingling outside from one restaurant to another to bar hop offers some advantage? Perhaps, if you are a student at Ohio State on a campus of 55,000, but not downtown Middletown. Several businesses are cutting staff including Kristina's Hair Styling across from Stefano's because of the mess on Central. Hamilton just appears to be much further along in creating a German Village (Columbus) environment than Middletown throwing everyone against the wall. The Sr Citizen Ctr having alcohol now until midnight? What's next, 5-6 Vegas casino's downtown and a Hooters franchise leasing space in the Sr Ctr? Out of control.
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'An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.' - Winston Churchill
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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Acclaro
It seems that city council went from "Build it and they will come" to "Make the law and they will come". This makes my three little grey cells go..TILT..TILT...TILT |
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acclaro
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 01 2009 Status: Offline Points: 1878 |
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Don't forget about changing codified ordinances for making city more business friendly.
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'An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.' - Winston Churchill
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itsamee
MUSA Resident Joined: May 03 2013 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 154 |
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You're right acclaro. Lets just give up on anything that can help make a change.
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Itsa me, mario!
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spiderjohn
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 01 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2749 |
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In all respect, we have far more important issues that affect everyone, than to be worrying about 2-3 bars in the former downtown area and being able to carry around liquor only purchased from them. It will pass and honestly not make a difference city-wide. Let it happen nbd.
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acclaro
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Losing strategy when a belief open carry for a few restaurants is going to attract foot traffic and residents into Middletown.
Perhaps the better change would be to focus upon reducing crime, purging heroin, improving public image of dying city, and maintaining infrastructure untouched for 40 years. That change is a winner; open beer or wine container really doesn't get the job done. Neither does social media and blogs about the "shovel ready" property available and the amazing amenities available in a city ranked as one of state's highest crime areas, lowest valued property assessments, and potholes so deep Rumke is considering using them as landfills. |
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'An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.' - Winston Churchill
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Perplexed
MUSA Citizen Joined: Apr 22 2009 Status: Offline Points: 315 |
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Don't forget, none of these proposals would be possible were it not for the "brilliant neighborhood revitalization programs" carried out in areas surrounding the downtown. Take a tour sometime to see how the Dougmeister's and Fuchmeister's expenditures of millions in HUD funds has rejuvenated(?) these older, declining areas. NOT!!! See how their "visionary" activities have prompted widespread private property reinvestment(?) while also improving the marketability(?) of Ward 2 and parts of Ward 1 real estate. NOT!!! See how their creativity(?) and frugality(?) in formerly problematic central city neighborhoods has aided and abetted downtown property reinvestment. NOT!!! It's always quite humorous to read of the praises of these two bureaucrats by shills and wannabees on this blog.
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