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    Posted: Oct 15 2013 at 4:53pm
Posted: 4:00 p.m. Tuesday, Oct. 15, 2013

Council candidates to answer questions at forum

By Rick McCrabb

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MIDDLETOWN —

Candidates for Middletown City Council will discuss economic development, revitalizing downtown, tax revenues, streets and public safety during a forum Thursday.

The forum, conducted by the Chamber of Commerce serving Middletown, Monroe, Middletown, will feature candidates for the Middletown City Council.

The forum also was supposed to include candidates for the Middletown City School Board, but since not enough candidates responded they’d attend, it was cancelled, said Rick Pearce, executive director of the Chamber.

There are two open seats on the city council after voters decided to eliminate the ward system and reduce the size of council from seven to five members. There are four candidates for the two seats: vice mayor Dan Picard, council members Ann Mort and Josh Laubach, and Dora Bronston.

All four candidates for the council seats are expected to attend, Pearce said.

Residents may submit written questions that may be asked, according to Pearce. Members of the Public Affairs Committee will review the questions for city council candidates, he said.

Pearce said the event will be broadcast live on TV Middletown, and replayed later. TV Middletown commentator Lenny Robinson will moderate the forum.

For the Middletown Board of Education, current board members Christi Delloma and write-in candidate DeAnna Shores are on the ballot for two available seats to finish unexpired terms that end Dec. 31, 2015.

Incumbents the Rev. Gregory Tyus and Marcia Andrew are running against Mark McClure for two available seats with four-year terms.

Pearce said he was looking forward to conducting “a spirited discussion” and learning about the candidates and their views on city government.

Polls open at 6:30 a.m. Nov. 5.


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WHAT: Middletown City Council candidates forum

WHEN: 7 to 7:45 p.m. Thursday, Oct. 17

WHERE: Middletown City Building, council chambers, One Donham Plaza

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Responses from last night's forum....

MIDDLETOWN —
Public safety, the city’s infrastructure, the number of Section 8 vouchers and economic development were the hot topics Wednesday night during the candidates’ forum for the Middletown City Council.

Each of the four candidates — vice mayor Dan Picard, council members Ann Mort and Josh Laubach, and Dora Bronston — gave a two-minute introduction, answered questions that were submitted from the Public Affairs Committee or the audience, then finished with a one-minute conclusion during the forum that was broadcast live on Middletown TV and held in the Council Chambers.

There were about 15 people in the audience, including City Manager Judy Gilleland, council member Anita Scott Jones, Maj. Mark Hoffman from the Middletown Division of Police, and the Rev. Greg Tyus, who’s running for school board. The other people attended to support a particular candidate, they said.

The forum was sponsored by the Chamber of Commerce and TV Middletown commentator Lenny Robinson moderated the forum. It also was supposed to include candidates for the Middletown City School Board, but since not enough candidates responded they’d attend, it was cancelled, said Rick Pearce, executive director of the Chamber.

There are four candidates running for the two open seats on the City Council after voters decided to eliminate the ward system and reduce the size of council from seven to five members.

On the issues addressed, most of the candidates agreed that additional money needs to be spent, but they were unsure where to get the money since the city’s revenue has remained flat recently.

When asked about the roads, and how improve them, Laubach said the city was “well behind” having “credible roads” because only about $2 million in budgeted for 2014. Mort said as the city repairs the roads, it also needs to improve the aging sewer system. Picard called repairing the streets “a very tough project” and said the city needs to seek state and federal assistance.

The candidates were asked if they consider the city’s “best days” over.

Picard said the whole perception of Middletown “is wrong” because over the last four years, while he has been in office, more than $750 million in manufacturing has been invested, Cincinnati State has opened a branch campus and enrolled more than 600 students, and retail stores are opening or expanding downtown and on the East End.

“We need to continue to grow,” he said.

Bronston said while Middletown is aging, there is “hope for the city…we can change.”

Laubach said he was more concerned with the city’s budget than its perception. He said if changes are not made to improve its finances, the city will go into default.

Mort said she’s impressed that more young people are deciding to make Middletown their home. She said the city has “a great deal” to offer in the future.

“I have a lot of hope for the Middletown,” she said.

All four candidates said the city needs to continue looking at the number of Section 8 vouchers that are distributed in the city. Mort said the number has dropped from 1,700 to 1,400, what she called “a good step in the right direction.” She said too many vouchers creates “stress” on the police and fire departments

"There were about 15 people in the audience, including City Manager Judy Gilleland, council member Anita Scott Jones, Maj. Mark Hoffman from the Middletown Division of Police, and the Rev. Greg Tyus, who’s running for school board. The other people attended to support a particular candidate, they said."

THE APATHY CONTINUES. DOES ANYONE REALLY CARE WHO SITS BEHIND COUNCIL'S DESK?

"When asked about the roads, and how improve them, Laubach said the city was “well behind” having “credible roads” because only about $2 million in budgeted for 2014. Mort said as the city repairs the roads, it also needs to improve the aging sewer system. Picard called repairing the streets “a very tough project” and said the city needs to seek state and federal assistance"

BUT IT WAS THE FORMER COUNCIL IN THE 80's THAT REMOVED THE MONEY FOR STREETS AND NO COUNCIL MEMBER SINCE THAT TIME HAS PROPOSED REINSTATING THE FUNDING IN THE BUDGET. WHY? WOULDN'T NEED STATE AND FED ASSISTANCE PICARD IF YOUR COUNCIL AND THE ONES PROCEEDING YOU WOULD HAVE KEPT UP WITH THE MONEY IN THE FUND. WHY WASN'T THIS DONE ALL THESE YEARS?

The candidates were asked if they consider the city’s “best days” over.

Picard said the whole perception of Middletown “is wrong” because over the last four years, while he has been in office, more than $750 million in manufacturing has been invested, Cincinnati State has opened a branch campus and enrolled more than 600 students, and retail stores are opening or expanding downtown and on the East End.

“We need to continue to grow,” he said

CINCY STATE, WITH 600 STUDENTS, PROBABLY HALF ON-LINE AND NOT IMPACTING ACTIVITY IN YOUR DOWNTOWN AREA, DOES NOT MAKE CREATE MEASURABLE GROWTH. RETAIL/EXPANDING BUSINESSES? A FEW ARTZY SHOPS AND OVER-PRICED FINGER FOOD RESTAURANTS IN PLACE, BUT MORE VACANT STOREFRONTS BY A 3:1 RATIO. STILL ALMOST A DESOLATE AS IT WAS DURING AND RIGHT AFTER THE CITY CENTRE MALL WAS TORN DOWN DANNY. THE "EMPTINESS" OF DOWNTOWN GOES BACK ALOT FURTHER THAN 4 YEARS. THIS GROWTH YOU SPEAK OF IS, AT BEST, A SNAILS PACE THAT, AT THE CURRENT RATE, WILL NOT COME TO FRUITION FOR DECADES IF IT IS SUCCESSFUL AT ALL.

Mort said she’s impressed that more young people are deciding to make Middletown their home. She said the city has “a great deal” to offer in the future

IF YOUNG PEOPLE ARE MOVING HERE, AS MORT STATES, THEY ARE ATTRACTED BY THE AMOUNT OF HOME THEY CAN GET FOR THE PRICE DUE TO A DEPRESSED HOME MARKET. MOST LIKELY, THEY BOTH WOULD LIVE HERE, BUT BOTH WORK OUT OF TOWN AT BETTER PAYING JOBS. I WOULD IMAGINE MOST DO COMMUTE BASED ON WHAT MIDDLETOWN HAS TO OFFER IN THE DECENT PAYING JOB CATEGORY.

AND THEN THIS FROM MORT.....

All four candidates said the city needs to continue looking at the number of Section 8 vouchers that are distributed in the city. Mort said the number has dropped from 1,700 to 1,400, what she called “a good step in the right direction.” She said too many vouchers creates “stress” on the police and fire departments

THE VERY COUNCIL THAT YOU ARE A PART OF MORT, APPROVED THE VOUCHER INCREASE AND, AT THE TIME, DIDN'T SEEM TO CARE HOW MUCH OF A LOAD IT WOULD PLACE ON THE FIRE AND POLICE DEPARTMENTS. DIDN'T SEEM TO CARE ABOUT WHAT INFLUENCE IT WOULD HAVE ON THE SCHOOLS EITHER. JUST SAW FED DOLLAR SIGNS TO BUILD UP THE MONEY FLOW FOR YOUR LITTLE PROJECTS IN TOWN. TUNNEL VISION AT IT'S BEST LADY. NOW, WAY AFTER THE FACT, YOU FINALLY SEE THE DAMAGE THIS INCREASE HAS HAD ON THE CITY? DO YOU READ THE POLICE BRIEFS EACH DAY? DO YOU SEE THE INCREASE IN CRIMINAL ACTIVITY AND TIE THIS TO THE TYPE OF PEOPLE YOU ARE INVITING TO THIS CITY THROUGH THIS PROGRAM? SECTION 8 PEOPLE, STEREOTYPICALLY, INVITE THE CRIMINAL ELEMENT. WHERE THERE IS LOW INCOME AND POVERTY, THERE IS CRIME/DRUG SATURATION.....IN ANY CITY. WHY DID YOU SANCTION INVITING MORE IN? NONE OF YOU CURRENT COUNCIL PEOPLE CAN BE SEEN AS FRIENDS OF THE POLICE AND FIRE DEPTS. YOU'VE MADE THEIR JOBS WORSE THAN BEFORE. IF IT WAS SUCH A GREAT IDEA, WHY DIDN'T MORE COMMUNITIES INVITE SECTION 8 IN IN ABUNDANCE? JMO
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Sitting on city council is a joke and really is a waste job. No one in Middletown gets on council because of ability. Its a popularity of the oldies but goodies, those been around for ever and a day, known by fellow classmates at Fenwick and MHS, who someone throws a sign in a yard, not because they believe in one's ability, but because they knew the Dad, Mom, played golf on a weekend, etc.
Council does nothing to contain city leaders. And more importantly, they brought in a city leader which they owned. The city manager doesn't work for you, she works for MMF. 
Fifteen people in attendance, 4-5 whom were already with the city or on council. In a town of 48,000, 10 people attended, or about .000000000000000001 of the population.  Hardly reflects anyone views any of these people as serious or adding value.
 
Memo to Dan Picard: your mission is public safety? Maybe you should have been a police chief or fire chief, not a council member. Growth? Capital expenditures don't equate to jobs and taxes raised. Build the middle school and you will call that a success, another 100,000,000 added to Middletown.
 
Memo to JL: Default? Thanks....we know a 2,25% tax is on the horizon or the city goes into default- that's why MMF, and the stacked deck put on council to pass non stop tax levies.
 
Memo to Ann Mort: Young people flocking to Middletown? Great value? No...young ones are leaving, old ones are dying, and investors buy cheap property to flip when the city pays them to use it as a Subway instead of a Gold store.
 
Being on city council creates legends in the minds of those who deal in the world of unreality and fiction, but does help get family members jobs and favors. Most would argue a Kentucky Colonel has more meaning, which is just a token certificate than being elected to city council. Class president and prom queen runner up far more prestigious in the non fiction world.
 
Packed house of 10 people doesn't reflect 'interest.' Token job for those who like tokens. IMO.  
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Wasn't a very encouraging evening, was it?
Credit due for offering to serve--however "serving" should mean more than than re-cycled sos.
Just like the last-minute fed govt.drama that solved nothing, but fueled more pork, waste deficit and polarization.
Correct acclaro--no one locally cares any more.
Locals have given up on their govt.making a positive difference at this time.
Maybe trickle-down apathy and helplessness from the fed situation and embarrassing republican melt-down
 
Soo-----leave it all behind--come to Finkleman @ MU-M tomorrow night for a couple of hours of musical treat with the legendary BELA FLECK and ABIGAIL WASHBURN!
 
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I will be there sj, and hosting 8 family friends from young professional adults flying in from Chicago, who know the world class status of these outstanding performers (and kids of the movers and shakers who left sw Ohio for better life in Chicagoland).
 
Incredible talent tomorrow----even blew my son away when told who was doing the gig.
 
Put the local silliness of council and their antics behind years ago---enough empty suits in business and fed level---no need to bother with the local ones as well. All hat and no cattle---nothing more to say.
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From MJ:
Section 8 an issue at IPOA candidates forum
By Michael D. Pitman

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MIDDLETOWN —

The amount of subsidized housing in Middletown and what to do about it has been a hot topic in the city during the past year, and the subject took center stage again earlier this week at a City Council candidates forum hosted by the Investment Property Owners Association of Middletown.

All four candidates vying for the two open seats on council — Vice Mayor Dan Picard, council members Josh Laubach and Ann Mort and candidate Dora Bronston — attended the 90-minute forum Wednesday at Java Johnny’s Midtown Cafe where a variety of topics were addressed. But it was the city’s most controversial issue — the reduction of Section 8 housing — that got the most attention.

City officials want to eliminate 1,008 of the 1,662 Housing Choice Vouchers, commonly known as Section 8, that exist in the city. Their plan calls for reducing that number over the next four to five years through attrition, meaning when people voluntarily leave or are kicked off the program.

Middletown has more Section 8 housing per capita than any city in the region or state, and that the sheer volume of low-income housing is taxing city services beyond what is sustainable long term and negatively impacting the ability to attract new jobs and businesses, city officials have said. The city’s proposal has met resistance from the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development as well as local Section 8 landlords and tenants.

Steve Bohannon, a member of the Investment Property Owners Association, said this is a big issue for his group since some of its members rent their properties to Section 8 voucher holders. He said for years the Section 8 program in Middletown was “under the radar” and the amount of subsidized housing wasn’t an issue when the city’s economy was stronger.

“But now that we lose all the jobs and all the paper mills and so forth, the Section 8 is standing out like a sore thumb,” Bohannon said.

Bohannon asked the council candidates how property owners like those involved with the IPOA could “feel a little better about what the city is trying to do to our investment” with all the proposed changes to Section 8.

Picard said “there’s no doubt” Middletown has more Section 8 housing than its neighbors, and that the city is “still grappling … because there’s just no easy resolution to that issue.”

“The city has been moving to reduce mainly because the city is overburdened,” Picard said. “You (property investors) spend a lot of money in this city as a result of Section 8 housing, a lot of money flows into the city as a result of Section 8 housing. I think the key for council is to determine what is the proper balance between the burden of Section 8 housing and the amount of money that’s coming into the city.”

Bronston called the 1,008 voucher reduction “pretty drastic,” adding the city also has “a problem with HUD.”

“Unless that authority tells us that we can, we can’t do it,” Bronston said of reducing vouchers. “People need somewhere to live. You can’t kick all the poor people out. What are you going to do with all the displaced citizens when they don’t have a home to live in?”

She said there will be a “domino effect” as the landlords for Section 8 is reduced “you have the people on Section 8 that were in those homes and they have to find homes somewhere else.”

Laubach said the subsidized housing in the long run “makes for bad business” for investors.

“I think it’s bad for people who own property because we’re artificially creating or building housing projects where subsidized tenants move into and keeps prices artificially low for people like you who are trying gain rents back from your investment,” he said. “I think we have to continue to focus, and I’m not talking over night, but let’s continue to focus moving away from that and bringing people here that pay out of pocket themselves and that will change the whole dynamic of our housing stock.”

Mort said the attrition practices help create balance as Middletown is “vastly out of balance compared to like cities.”

“I have no problem whatsoever by cutting it down through attrition. I don’t want to throw anybody out on the streets,” Mort said. “We’ve tightened up our landlords … and I think that’s a very good thing because we got rid of some landlords that were giving it a really bad name.

“We’re tightening up on the people that live there so that we have decent folk for the most part living in these units.”

Mort said it’s important to improve the city’s housing stock and bring in residents who pay market-rate rents

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The city council are useless individuals.
 
They don't comprehend the chicken and egg correlation.
 
Those that state it is desirable to have renters come in to pay out of pocket vs HUD don't want to face reality; people want OUT of Middletown, not in.
 
Reducing vouchers was a situation which stemmed directly from council. It disgusts me council and city leaders always scapegoat someone or always have an excuse. Crime, image, everything is the vault of Section 8. Wrong----its because city took money from roads, never put it back to 86 levels, to pay its employees, and always, ALWAYS has been reactive. Jobs left, companies left, executives left, associated with INCOMPETENCE and taxes.
 
There is not one individual running worthy of a vote in my opinion.
 
Rid Middletown of Section 8, all of it, and all that will occur is HUD and the state, will pay $ to destroy excess inventory. The influx will NEVER occur, never.
 
The city destroyed itself. Section 8 is an effect of the root cause of utter and complete INCOMPETENCE by city hall and city council.
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Acclaro,
 
As much as I value your opinion, there is one statement within your post with which I must disagree.  I hope that after I logically state may case, you will concur.
 
You stated:  "There is not one individual running worthy of a vote in my opinion."
 
I say that of the four individuals running, two will be elected...even if no one (other than their selves) votes for them.  Therefore, it behooves us to try to get the best (or perhaps the least bad--depending upon one's point of view) of the lot elected.
 
I submit that the best of this lot of candidates is JOSH LAUBACH!!! 
 
Now, I have not agreed with every position he has taken, nor every vote he has cast, and I venture to say that you have not either.  I have openly railed against some of his positions right in this forum.  However, I certainly have found myself on the same page with Mr. Laubach much more often than with either of the other incumbents.  I speculate that the same is true with you.  Further, I say that this young man has articulated core values consistent with our conservative founding fathers.  Given, he has strayed from these positions at times...but one must allow that he is a relatively young man who has had to stand alone against much more liberal colleagues and administrators who probably have ganged up on him to "get on board"! 
 
Who, among the candidates, has EVER stood up against "the machine", save Josh Laubach???  (Discount those who completely change their stances the last month or so before elections...and you know who you are!!)
 
So now, when the council is being reduced to just five members, if we do NOT reelect JOSH LAUBACH, won't we just be completely capitulating???  Won't we just be completely surrendering???
 
If not JOSH LAUBACH, then who??? 
 
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Mike, my frustration and anger to be frank, out of the mindless beating of and on impoverished people on Section 8 as an excuse and projection of all of Middletown's woes got the better of me, including Mr. Laubach's commentary an open check book was the better strategy for renters than federal assistance. As Steve Bohannon has stated, and with a wit of satire associated with his statement 'it was 'only after Middletown lost its paper jobs, AK reduction, Square D, and countless other business, including Clark, Schaeffer, Hacket, did council come to Jesus and blame the low life Section 8 souls, which I find disgusting and irresponsible. It has been decades of complete mismanagement by council that has led to Middletown's blight; Section 8 is only one of many outcomes, but not the cause.
 
I agree Mr. Laubach is the better and only candidate I would even consider casting a vote, although his impact will be moot, as Bill Becker, Joe Mulligan, and Anita Scot Jones remain, and they are pretty much in step in the majority. My disappoint with Mr. Laubach more squarely is associated with the simplicity of not going back to the 1986 ordinance and having it placed before the voters, and having them allocate the money as it was 20 + years ago. Given the choices, I agree JL is without question, the better and only candidate, I would not leave blank and vote for again. However, hs support of moving funds downtown has not served him well, in my opinion nonetheless, but in a sea of rascals, he has cleaner hands than others.
 
This council was put in place for one reason; to waste $ downtown and to pass levies. Mr. Laubach will at least, I believe, give the one no vote, to tax elevation, although token only in nature. MMF only needs to prevail on 1 of the new seats; I fear it will be two.
 
I appreciate your avocation of Mr. Laubach and given the choices, I agree he is the only candidate I could stomach to even check his name. Likewise, my sentiments are the same for all the RIN's down on Butler Cty, which I never vote for, but leave blank.
 
 
    
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Acclaro,

And I agree about the RINOs in Butler County.
 
That is why I ran for Central Committee.  Unfortunately, if you think only one vote out of seven (soon to be one out of five, after this election) as on Middletown's Council is moot, consider one vote out of 280+- as on the BuCo GOP Central Committee!!! 
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That's why both parties hate the tea partiers because the new comers don't go along with the establishment ground rules and it scares the hell out of both partys.
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