REHAB of ELMO & GAGE

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   I believe I have found the answer to why the City would buy a house on Gage & Elmo and do a $100,000 worth of rehab. Ya know those poooor city workers need a nice place to live.

HOUSING SUBCOMMITTEE 
MINUTES - February 5, 2010 
Members Present: Dan Picard, Anita Scott Jones 
Others Present: Larry Mulligan, City Manager Gilleland, Community Revitalization 
Director D. Adkins, Clerk Parr 

Housing Incentives for Public Employees 
Mr. Adkins distributed information gathered about incentive programs offered in other municipalities. He said sixteen of Middletown’s 84 firefighters are residents and thirty of 80 police officers live within the City. Many communities used to have requirements for residency and the Supreme Court has overruled that. He asked committee members to look at the information and they can have further discussion. There was discussion about taking this to the bargaining units during contract negotiations. Staff is exploring ideas that would bring youth and people back to the City. Discussion included a lottery of NSP homes that could be spread broader based and create some excitement in the program. Staff will continue to look at programs

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Vivian Moon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187	Post Options Post Reply Quote Vivian Moon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: REHAB of ELMO & GAGE Posted: Aug 05 2010 at 9:41am
	I believe I have found the answer to why the City would buy a house on Gage & Elmo and do a $100,000 worth of rehab. Ya know those poooor city workers need a nice place to live. HOUSING SUBCOMMITTEE MINUTES - February 5, 2010 Members Present: Dan Picard, Anita Scott Jones Others Present: Larry Mulligan, City Manager Gilleland, Community Revitalization Director D. Adkins, Clerk Parr Housing Incentives for Public Employees Mr. Adkins distributed information gathered about incentive programs offered in other municipalities. He said sixteen of Middletown’s 84 firefighters are residents and thirty of 80 police officers live within the City. Many communities used to have requirements for residency and the Supreme Court has overruled that. He asked committee members to look at the information and they can have further discussion. There was discussion about taking this to the bargaining units during contract negotiations. Staff is exploring ideas that would bring youth and people back to the City. Discussion included a lottery of NSP homes that could be spread broader based and create some excitement in the program. Staff will continue to look at programs

Hermes Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: May 19 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1637	Post Options Post Reply Quote Hermes Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Aug 05 2010 at 11:13am
	Well thats all we need is for city employees to start getting "free" or "subsidized" rent with tax dollars. The supreme court is a waste of tax payer money. They always rule in favor of who ever pays them the most dollars.
	No more democrats no more republicans,vote Constitution Party !!

Bill Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Citizen Joined: Nov 04 2009 Status: Offline Points: 710	Post Options Post Reply Quote Bill Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Aug 05 2010 at 11:29am
	as if these public employees don't have enough perks as it is. And I doubt many are leaving for greener pastures in other cities, so why have this incentive at all?

Hermes Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: May 19 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1637	Post Options Post Reply Quote Hermes Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Aug 05 2010 at 1:33pm
	The way things are getting in this country it makes you wonder if the city wants to move cops into these houses and live rent free for spying on the neighborhoods. Which is not all that bad but anything they do these days is always abused in some form or fashion. I think police sub-stations should be considered for parts of the city. They could use a rehab house for that very purpose. The police in Middeltown are the most inactive of any force I've ever seen considering they have 80± cops. But than again if we seen them all the time we'd b**** about that too.
	No more democrats no more republicans,vote Constitution Party !!

Mike_Presta Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Council Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483	Post Options Post Reply Quote Mike_Presta Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Aug 06 2010 at 7:31am
	Ms. Moon may have missed one of the most important items that was discussed at this *FEBRUARY 5 HOUSING SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING!!!* It points out why many areas of our government breed corruption. It points out why our nation, and most political subdivisions of it, are going bankrupt. It points out why I, and so many others, feel that government cannot be trusted. Allow me to quote from the minutes of that February 5, 2010, Housing Subcommittee meeting: "Homes acquired and rehabbed could be incentive homes. If the program does not get all its money back from the rehab, that’s OK. HUD recommends you lose $75,000 per home." Not only is it stupid for HUD to "recommend you lose $75,000 per home" but just consider the temptation when homes are bought in prime areas and city hall insiders know that they will be available at such a deal after rehab!!! The temptation to "tip off a friend" would be enough to turn a saint into a sinner, would it not? Of course I mean *other* government officials, *NOT* ours here in Middletown!!!
	“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012

Nelson Self Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Resident Joined: Aug 17 2009 Status: Offline Points: 144	Post Options Post Reply Quote Nelson Self Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Aug 06 2010 at 8:48am
	Miss Vivian, Mike, Hermes and Bill - Could it really be true that some 4th floor occupants of One Donham Plaza might possibly be just a little ARROGANT for stating ........... *HUD doesn't care if the City loses up to $75,000 per house* via the $2.144 Million NSP-1 grant? Is it really possible that this and other comments supposedly made by them might appear to reflect DISDAIN for us citizens? I wonder if these City program administrators have the same philosophy regarding local government extravagance in MASON and LEBANON ?? Is it really possible that they convey the belief that OUR FEDERAL TAX DOLLARS are to WASTE** however and wherever they might choose. "What a City" as VietVet often says?

Hermes Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: May 19 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1637	Post Options Post Reply Quote Hermes Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Aug 06 2010 at 12:53pm
	I agree with you Nelson,as I've said before so many times politicians on all levels could care less what the people think. I honestly believe that a politician, regardless whether it's local or national, only considers themselves when it comes to governing. My first example would be congress. Democrat or Republican these people are absolute and total low lifes with total disregard for the people they control. Second example is what you see everyday right here in Middeltown. I believe that Labauch & Smith truly thought they could do some good and really help this town and it's people but,the power and the money that runs this town will trample both Labauch & Smith like a stampede of buffalo and we are already seeing that. As the quote from Thomas Jefferson says "A little revolution now and then is a good thing" a revolution is what is called for,a call to arms is what is needed but you'll never in our life times see it happen. Vote all you want ! Petition all you want ! But until the political cronies see an army of armed citizens walking the streets toward them they will never ever change. They are comfortable in their positions of power. Why ? Because you can't touch them. The money these people get in ways of salary and kickbacks and underhanded deeds is guaranteed. The cops and National Guard will defend these ruthless Ba*****s with their lives. Navy Seals are now trained to do urban warfare in American cities. Why ? To combat the citizens who are sick and tired of being lied to and being led by dictatorships such as what we have in Middeltown. We have two future's,one we can spend our time and energy to try it the politicians way by taking our grievances to them in one form or another to only be brushed aside and told to shut our mouths and go along,or two we stand up for what is right and make a show of force and actually fight to take back control and start all over with risk of prison and death. Our children and grandchildren have no future,and it's no one's fault but ours. One final thought....what do you think would have happened 150 years ago if government was like it is today on all levels ?
	No more democrats no more republicans,vote Constitution Party !!

rngrmed Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Citizen Joined: May 06 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 309	Post Options Post Reply Quote rngrmed Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Aug 06 2010 at 12:55pm
	HUD sure cared enough when I bid $85k for house they were asking 100k that needed extensive repairs. So will these houses only be allowed to go to "City" employees? Are they being bid on or just given to one of them that lives "outside" the City through a drawing? Not fair to the others that already live here. What about people that have lived here all their lives only to watch their tax money being wasted? Oh wait, who cares about their concerns/needs. Yet another reason to leave this town

angelababy Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Resident Joined: Aug 04 2010 Status: Offline Points: 103	Post Options Post Reply Quote angelababy Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: Oct 26 2010 at 1:12am
	The police in Middeltown are the most inactive of any force I've ever seen considering they have 80± cops.