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    Posted: Aug 10 2009 at 8:48pm

Petition for charter change moving forward By Ed Richter, Staff Writer 8:18 PM Monday, August 10, 2009

Just a few hundred more signatures to go and voters may see a referendum on the Nov. 3 ballot to reduce the size of Middletown City Council and eliminate the ward system.

For the past few weeks, a citizens group has been collecting signatures to place Charter Review Committee recommendation on the ballot which was defeated by one vote by council last month.

Jeff Michel, a Florence Street resident who is spearheading the effort, said Monday, Aug. 10, that a petition drive at Java Johnny’s over the weekend was successful and “very effective.”

According to Ann Mort, 24 people have been circulating the petitions around town for the past few weeks, going door to door or by attending various community events.

Last Wednesday, Tom Brickey, who chaired the Charter Review Committee, was circulating a petition with others during the Broad Street Bash downtown.

Michel expects to have enough valid signatures, about 1,200, to submit the petitions to the Butler County Board of Elections as early as Wednesday for a pre-screening.

He said the group was to meet on Monday to determine its next steps.

He said he hopes to give council enough time to consider the matter before the Aug. 20 filing deadline. Council’s next meeting is Aug. 18. If there are enough valid signatures on the referendum petitions, the issue will be placed on the Nov. 3 ballot.

“The people on the street are backing it,” Michel said. ‘They want it on the ballot.”

He said Mayor Larry Mulligan, and Councilmen Bill Becker, Tony Marconi and Jim Armbruster — who all voted to place the issue on the ballot — have signed the petition.

The citizens group believes the recommendations should have been approved and placed on the ballot by council last month so that the voters decide for themselves on the issues.

However, state law permits council to accept, modify or reject recommendations from the charter review committee.

A two-thirds majority, or five votes were needed to place the measures on the ballot. Although four council members voted to place it on the ballot, Council members David Schiavone, Anita Scott Jones and Leslie Ford voted no, defeating the measure. All three council members said they did not believe the ward system should be eliminated.

Wanda Glover, a member of the Charter Review Committee and president of the Second Ward Community Council, voted against recommendation.

She said she’s received numerous calls from throughout the community opposing the petition drive effort. However, she said she’ll “wait and see” if the petition drive is successful.

“It’s unfair they’re trying to back door council on this,” Glover said. “The 2nd Ward feels it needs to be represented as a ward (on council).”

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote accuro Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug 11 2009 at 12:54am
Aren't you all getting tired of the dumby down; everyone wants this on a ballot? Come on, we all want 100 people running the city of Middletown. The clan who ran it in the ground want to make you think through the spin doctor, its spreading like fire, everyone wants to vote. Midd;etown makes me ill with this dumby down trash. If this passes, there will be a domino effevct, worthless board members jumping to council and vice versa. How much easier to put the voting block together. Ms. Mort and the Journal extend some hyperbole on this issue, just like the 75,000 that attended the wildly successful balloon fest. Dumby down isn'y working Ms. Mort, and the rest of the Foundation. You've destroyed Middletown, and handing the keys over to the F troop is as bad as hopping in a car with a drunk driver with triple the legal limit of alcohol in them.  
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accuro>      I agree with you 100%,what a bunch of clowns. Thats why Miss Mort has a brown ring around her lips sucking to much ass.
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Spider>     Are you going to vote yes on the charter change?
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I was planning on voting NO, Impala
Majority rules
Best reason to vote this November, and MIGHT create more citizen interest/involvement in ward candidates ironically
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"How sad for those who are the have-not's who expect the haves will be looking out for them. Sorry, but It's going to be business as usual."
 
Maybe it is time for those supposed "have-not's" that can look out for themselves start doing so, instead of relying on others to do it for them.   Just what is a "have-not" 2000+ and what is a "Have".
 
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Pacman, I gotta jump in here. Do you really think those whom have been labeled the "have not's" are lazy folk who won't get out of their chairs and take care of themselves? My grandmother, poorly educated friend and disabled neighbor are some of those. "The have's" are the folks behind the same policy's that brought us here. Former political leaders and businessmen who won't let go of their egos and their out-of-date approach to marketing, manufactoring and civic inovation. What does the Forbes label tell us? Not just that we are one of many city's who have been severly hurt by our nations on-going shift away from it's manufactoring base, but also about those who have led our city in the past still effectively keeping out those who are ready and qualified by not supporting them to lead us now. The simple reality is that Middletown's leaders lack of vision demonstrated by their general promotion of "the have's" to positions of leadership, have made our city a "have not" on the regional and national stage. The demographics of Middletown are well know, and the responsibily of those we elect are to the people that elect them, not to the "haves" who expect to control them.  In addition, those who have success in a business setting are often not the best qualified to represent the whole population in general. The demographic of Middletown say it all, and the ward systen has nothing to do with the economic leadership of the city. It's simply the current scape-goat for our past and present leader's failed policys. The ward system is about full representation of ALL the citizen's of our city, not just the "have's" who are pushing a smaller number of  council representatives from the demographic of the East end. jmo
 
 
 
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Packman,
 
1st. let me thank you for your service to our country. Vietnam?
 
After reading Mr. Woods post about his view of the "haves" vs. the "have not's," I've got to agree with most of what he said. The petition that has been passed around will surely place the ward etc. question on the ballot. I do not agree with the elimination of wards and I will do my best to campaign against that outcome. As Mr. Woods said, I agree that Middletown does suffer from a true division of  citizen representation. In November, we need to support the candidates who support the ward system.
 
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Does anyone know if Paul Negy is serious about running in the 4th. ward? I'd be happy to sign his petition and work in his campaign.

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Count me in for Paul Nagy and John Soppanish too!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pacman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug 11 2009 at 9:32pm
Merrell, why are we a "Have Not" City on the Regional stage? 
 
Personally the City is not run as a Business enough.  Mr. Becker continually reminds of us the impending Budget disaster that is coming and that the City can not maintian it's current practices as far as employees and benefits go, yet it is basically ignored each time he brings it up.  This City will not survive if it does not change the way it operates.  It can not afford to Have Public and Section 8 housing in the numbers it does.  It must attract citizens that pay more in Payroll taxes in order to support the City.  If you raise the standard of living in the City as a whole everyone benefits even those that need assistance.  If you continue with the Socio-economic imbalance that we have now the city will fail.
 
 
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Pacman,
 
I was trying to be clever but accurate by comparing how our city is treated and dismissed as unworthy to participate in regional politic's and economic development by our neighbors to the North & South
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Merrell I agree, I actually think the City is looked down upon by some of the other Regional Municipalities.  My question is what are the reasons for this?  I have my own but would like to hear others.
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Middletown looked down upon by other towns because:
1. Looked upon as a dirty steelmill/industrial town lacking in any newer, more upscale technologies.
2. Overabundance of Section 8/poor/ low income gives the city a reputation of being a ghetto and therefore, not desirable to contact.
3. City offers no positive chips to play in the poker game of regional development. No one wants to partner with the city as there is no benefit to them.
4. City has no real movers and shakers living here that are in the realm of "rubbing elbows" with the bigger money in West Chester, Mason, Springboro, and more affluent communities. No contacts- no new opportunites.
5. The way Franklin was looked upon in the 50's and 60's (greasy redneck uneducated town) is the way Middletown is looked upon now. Franklin, IMO, has actually improved as to image from earlier days.
6. Other cities think there's gotta be something wrong with the town when Black Clawson goes to more upscale digs on Mason-Montgomery Rd. and AK heads to Union Center Blvd. area to improve their images and to entertain customers.
7. Overall perceived education level is not highly thought of by other communities. Too many low skilled people living in the area for them to be impressed.
8. Just flat out too "bumpkinish" to be taken seriously. City and school leaders are poor performers and the performance is publicized. No hiding it from surrounding communities. The city leaders of other towns, no doubt, have the same opinions of Middletown's leaders as we do on this site and they don't want to be bothered trying to interact with them. JMO
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ClapClapClap  Well said Viet Vet!
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Bravo VietVet, masterfully written. 
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