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VietVet ![]() MUSA Council ![]() ![]() Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
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Mayor Mulligan will concentrate on the positives of the city. One of the topics will be the image of the city. He cites the Pride In Action group (have they really gotten a good start yet to evaluate what impact they will have?), stepping up code enforcement on properties and work being done by the youth groups (painting the Community Center). He will also address the Section 8 housing vouchers which is a negative part of the city image topic. Now we have a dilemma here in the form of a contradiction. He will talk about the good things that are happening as it relates to the city image, but he (and most of council will support the existing overabundance of Section 8 housing that is tarnishing that positive image that he is so eager to speak about. Why would Mulligan and some others want to support the saturation of a program that, by design, lowers the image in all aspects of this city? It will be interesting to hear what he has to say in defense of a city that, like Forbes reports, has a high percentage of poverty, low median income and few people with a college education. That's all true. Wonder how he will manipulate the truth? He will also talk about the funds that have been "STASHED AWAY" for the roads. Hmmmm.... stashed away??? How many other little piles of money do we have "stashed away" from public knowledge, Lawrence?
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spiderjohn ![]() Prominent MUSA Citizen ![]() ![]() Joined: Jul 01 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2749 |
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VEt--if you read the latest city manager's report, the plan seems to be slowly eliminating the large % of Section 8 vouchers in the city. I believe the article hopes for an annual 10% reduction until we reach an 800 voucher cap. When families are removed from Section 8 after a period of time, allegedly those vouchers would not be replaced.
At least that is how I read the article.
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John Beagle ![]() MUSA Official ![]() ![]() Joined: Apr 23 2007 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1855 |
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I will be sure to link up the video on this thread.
It will be interesting to hear the Mayor's vision for Middletown. |
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Vivian Moon ![]() MUSA Council ![]() Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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Vet
I'm really glad that Mayor Mulligan is going to "step up code enforcement on properties". We will see if any of this "Enforcement" applies to city property.
![]() And "He will also address the Section 8 housing reduction". ![]() That's not the word on the street. The fact is we will be adding to the current number. The problem is now if we do away with the Section 8 housing just think of all the empty housing that will be sitting all over Middletown. ...and all the half empty school. Those with money and power will never let this happen. And that "Stashed away money" Hummm...It just so happens that I'm still looking for some lost funds that the City can't seem to find. ![]() |
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Mike_Presta ![]() MUSA Council ![]() ![]() Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483 |
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Hmm… “Gilleland said, ‘“the reduction would only be through attrition …’”. So, is 10% per year “realistic”??? I don’t know. We’ll have to wait and see what Mayor Lawrence P. Mulligan, Jr. says. But even if it is, let’s see: 1662 current vouchers…10% per year…can‘t use calculus because I‘ve had a beer (it‘s illegal to “drink and derive“)…let‘s try algebra… x equals the number of years…try to get to 800 vouchers…solve for x…hmmm… carry the one…add in the age of an old council member…hmm…divide both sides by the number of illegal meetings on the subject…google for the square of the hippopotamus… WOW! That could take SEVEN YEARS…or six…or eight!!! My question is: Does Middletown have that long??? Also, the story twice states that: “the city is willing to consider a fee based on the number of vouchers”!!, Unless they mean “based inversely to the number of vouchers”, what possible incentive will CONSOC have to reduce the number of vouchers??? |
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Mike_Presta ![]() MUSA Council ![]() ![]() Joined: Apr 20 2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3483 |
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I have other questions:
1. How can Mayor Lawrence P. Mulligan, Jr. possibly be both "positive or upbeat" and "realistic" at the same time??? (Or is it possible he knows something that none of the rest of us know, like about the majority of city council planning to resign?)
2. If Mayor Lawrence P. Mulligan, Jr. refutes the Forbes fact-based article's contention that our city has high poverty, low median household income and few people with college level education, what excuses will be left for Price to use for lack of performance of the Middletown City School Disctric??? After all, aren't these the very reasons Price relies upon to explain why the MCSD is in the bottom 10% of the state's school districts every year?
3. Will we just be hearing another re-statement of our "crown jewels"??? You all know the list: Our location on I-75; Weatherwax Golf Course; Bicentenial Park; AK Pavillion; Downtown and its art and mural and "water feature"; etc., etc., etc.! (It's the SAME list that the "cheerleaders" always trot out whenever they want to distract us from the problems that they refuse to believe we have and therefore will NEVER try to solve.)
4. Why are we warned: "don't expect the mayor to spend too much time talking about ... downtown revitalization"??? We are repeatedly told that downtown revitalization is absolutely CRITICAL to Middletown and its future. We are constantly bombarded with expensive risky scheme after expensive risky scheme to throw tax dollars at downtown resulting in little to no results in the last THIRTY YEARS, yet now it is not worth "much time" in our Mayor's $4000 "Speech of the Year"??? Could this be because there is no way to put an "upbeat, positive" spin on all of the time, effort and MONEY that we have thrown at downtown, and that there are no reasonable fresh ideas??? (And PLEASE--not ANOTHER scheme for a clock tower, water feature, or Ye Olde _________ Shoppe to "save the day"!)
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Pacman ![]() Prominent MUSA Citizen ![]() ![]() Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612 |
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Mike you forgot "Middletown has a Bright Future" and Middletown has great Parks.
Middletown's leadership is like trying to deal with a relative or friend that is an alcoholic, "One of the most frustrating factors in dealing with alcoholism, as a relative, friend or professional, is it is almost always accompanied by a phenomenon known as "denial."
Middletown's leadership would rather say it ain't so, than admit they have problems and deal with them as a community.
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Vivian Moon ![]() MUSA Council ![]() Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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TIME FOR A MEETING
While I was on the phone with Mr. Adkins yesterday he informed me that the City is getting ready to start work on the "NEXT 5 YEAR PLAN"
We really need to get our ducks in a row so we can influnce this next 5 Year Plan.
When and where can we all meet?
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Vivian Moon ![]() MUSA Council ![]() Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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Mike & Vet I was talking with a gentleman last week that owns several Section 8 properties now and has just recently purchased 3 more for under $15,000 each that he is going to rehab for Section 8, all are in the 2nd Ward. His brother also purchased 3 homes. Word on the street is Middletown is looking for more Section 8 houses to rent. This doesn’t sound like a reduction to me?
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Pacman ![]() Prominent MUSA Citizen ![]() ![]() Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612 |
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Speech excerpts sound like a rerun of the last 5 I have read about nothing earth shattering or new, except Middletown is not dying. The poverty level is a figment of our imagination, the section 8 issue is a fairy tale, lack of College education among residents is a pipe dream, but we have the Broad St. Bash and Got Art.
They tried to blame the high rise in the poverty level in 2007 on the AK strike, when the 2010 census rolls around the poverty level will have skyrocketed, at least we know what to blame for that ahead of time the current economy.
The problem with Middletown is Middletown itself, it is stuck in a fairy tale rut downtown. A downtown that enjoys talking about Got Art, Broad St. Bash, MidFest, Balloon Festival, Trees, Parks, a swimming pool and all of the other things that come with fairy dust and that is about it.
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Smartman ![]() MUSA Citizen ![]() Joined: Jun 14 2008 Status: Offline Points: 299 |
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Lets face it Guys and Gals. Auntie Annie Mort wrote the speech. She got him elected and controls his thoughts! She has her hand in all the cities business. Is she new blood? No! We need new visions. I applaude her effort to try to revive parts of the city, but if she really cared and was not out for her own glory, she would fine young folks with a vision!
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VietVet ![]() MUSA Council ![]() ![]() Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
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Smartman- Hurts me to see some of the things going on in this town. Has for over 30 years. Some of the "bad stuff" has been done by a few "newcomers" who moved here in the 80's/90's. Some damage has been done by the "old timers" that should have known better. IF Mulligan is the sounding board for Mort's agenda, the only way to fix it is to replace all of the sponsored people like Mulligan when votin' time comes around. IF your statement is correct, that people in city positions are controlled by people like Mort, with no "soldier candidates" in place, Mort will lose her strings to control her puppets. IF she is the type of controlling person you suggest, it kind of overshadows all the good Pride group stuff/Good News magazine efforts she is attempting to do doesn't it? Bottom line- us "common folk" have to find a way to break this little kingdom up with our votes or continue on our present course of living with the disasters of their agenda. How mad are we about the direction of the city? Mad enough to do something about it by changing the players/agenda?
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VietVet ![]() MUSA Council ![]() ![]() Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
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"The state of the city is strong"- "There is nothing wrong with Middletown that cannot be fixed by what is right with Middletown"--- What??? Don't know if a sizable number of realists would agree with that Mayor Mulligan.
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Impala SS ![]() MUSA Resident ![]() ![]() Joined: Jan 12 2009 Location: middletown Status: Offline Points: 136 |
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spiderjohn ![]() Prominent MUSA Citizen ![]() ![]() Joined: Jul 01 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2749 |
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I hear what u r saying smartman--HOWEVER while Mrs.Mort & Co. played a large part in raising funds and organizing/connecting the successful Council campaigns of Mr.Mulligan and Mr.Becker(and the losing effort of Ms.Lawrence), I don't see her as dictating how any of them think. They actually think this way because they personally believe this way. You can't blame all of Middletown's issues on this group either. Plenty of names to share responsibility.
ALSO--it ain't up to Mrs.Mort to find the new younger blood to bring forward fresh thinking and to assume leadership. These faces must step forward on their own simply because they WANT to do so and have something constructive to offer.
Let's get off this tired old "blame game" and continue to unite towards improving our community one day at a time. Big steps-small steps-beautification-job creation. All pieces in da puzzle.
I know--easier said than done
But we can't give up or stop trying.
I talked with da Mayor Tues.morning.
He was upbeat, and cordial(as always), is a very good and sincere listener who I honestly believe weighs alternative opinions and options. He simply believes in the philosophy he represents with no hidden agenda. What you see is what you get. I both like and respect Mayor Mulligan. Do I agree with him on things? In many areas absolutely no! But that is fine--we must work together to bridge the differences and maybe get a little something from and for everyone.
jm blowhard o
blast away!
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Impala SS ![]() MUSA Resident ![]() ![]() Joined: Jan 12 2009 Location: middletown Status: Offline Points: 136 |
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spiderjohn ![]() Prominent MUSA Citizen ![]() ![]() Joined: Jul 01 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2749 |
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thanks Impala
took gonads to post that one, and don't expect it to be up 4 long.
we will get every name of this group's membership and publish likewise
shouldn't b difficult, as they should have no complaint
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Vivian Moon ![]() MUSA Council ![]() Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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I have never met Mrs. Mort but I'm sure she is a wonderful woman....however....since she is being paid for her services at CVB... isn't that her JOB to be the cheerleader for the City? What concerns me is the fact that we can't seem to tell when these people are volunteering and when they are employed by the City.
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Smartman ![]() MUSA Citizen ![]() Joined: Jun 14 2008 Status: Offline Points: 299 |
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She is a very nice women. Just don't turn your back. The knife is sharp. She is very manipulitive. I base my opinion on this. Most people support 1 candidate. She ran several campaigns from counsel to school board. Make no mistake, certain folks on counsel, school board and Chamber listen to what she says and the try to implement what she says. She may say she is working for Middletown's best interest and that may be true, but she is working more to promote her own image and gain the control she had years ago. JMO
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Pacman ![]() Prominent MUSA Citizen ![]() ![]() Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612 |
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"Ken Cohen, of Cohen Brothers Inc. and president of Middletown Moving Forward"
Is the above mentioned group the same as "Moving Middletown Forward Committee" or are they two totally different organizations?
MIDDLETOWN MOVING FORWARD CIC Ken Cohen, PresidentCohen Brothers
Lawrence P. Mulligan Jr., Vice PresidentCity of Middletown Bill Triick, SecretaryThe Chamber of Commerce Judith A. Gilleland, TreasurerCity of Middletown Fred DeBiasi American Savings Bank Anthony “Tony” Marconi City of Middletown Greg Martin Greg Martin Excavating Alan McCoy AK Steel Douglas W. McNeill Atrium Medical Center Bill Murphy City of Middletown |
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Pacman ![]() Prominent MUSA Citizen ![]() ![]() Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612 |
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Somewhat cleaned up version. Folks this is bad news to read stuff like this from City....dare I say leaders or MANIPULATORS. You wonder why we have problems this makes it quite obvious, if it is accurate.
Moving Middletown Forward Committee Suggestions for activities
*Recruit and train candidates for ward election in 2009*
Establish committees for various activities: fundraising, issues, campaign strategy Candidate assistance
*Workshop for selected candidates: public relations, speech coaching, establish issues, raise funds ($3,000-$5,000 needed for competitive campaigns for each and establish budgets) Recruiting suggestions
*Search for candidates who have been active in their wards and have some name recognition *set target fundraising for each candidate (1/2 support candidate, 1/2 from committee through fundraisers)
Campaign suggestions *Announce committee formation and its objectives, not giving away its main goal of recruiting and quietly helping groom selected candidates and making sure they get on the ballot before announcing campaign support for the four candidates. Keep issues to a minimum and goals for candidates. When recruiting, make sure candidates are on board concerning objectives and issues. Other goals *Consider ballot issue which would change the makeup of City Council, For example: Four wards and mayor, eliminating at large seats, would make a more manageable and responsive council. *consider future ballot issue which would make Butler County Commission more responsive by adding two members and dividing commission in what would essentially be wards. |
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VietVet ![]() MUSA Council ![]() ![]() Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
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Have known Ken Cohen(and Barry Cohen) from playing Knothole baseball with them at Smith Park in the late 50's. Seemed ok then. Lives in Maineville- has his business in Middletown and other locations. I guess Middletown's not good enough to call home anymore for ole' Kenny. With his involvement with this group, I guess we're on different teams now.
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Paul Nagy ![]() MUSA Citizen ![]() Joined: Jan 11 2009 Status: Offline Points: 384 |
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Pacman:
If the facts stated here are true, this is purely subversive and covert. It plainly removes democracy from our city elections and should be investigated. The people participating in this should be ashamed for their manipulation of elections and depriving citizens of their honest vote. All of those involved should pay to the fullest extent of the law and those who are city employees and on Council should be removed immediately. This is what has been done in previous elections and enough is enough.
Citizens should now demand the change to our city politics that has been so long overdue. If they do not they deserve what they get. This should be that "final straw". This is a huge scandal and I am ashamed of our city for tolerating such. Where is the integrity, honesty and fairness? I was told I would not be elected because I wouldn't take orders. Now, the public can understand there has not been democracy in this city for a long time. Those who have bowed down and taken orders should hang their heads in shame and remove themselves from office or be thrown out. Where will the legal representation come from to rectify these illegal manipulations of the election process that is the foundation of our democracy?
Our so-called city leaders are white collar criminals and should be treated as such.
Paul Nagy
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Impala SS ![]() MUSA Resident ![]() ![]() Joined: Jan 12 2009 Location: middletown Status: Offline Points: 136 |
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Impala SS ![]() MUSA Resident ![]() ![]() Joined: Jan 12 2009 Location: middletown Status: Offline Points: 136 |
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