CONSOC Contract For 5-5 Mtg.

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   OK- I'm reading through the contract that Council will sign with CONSOC.(Page 43 of 141) This is posted on the Council website under 5/5 Agendas. Contract For Professional Services- "The Agency may, with HUD approval, change the number of allocated program vouchers". Doesn't Council, who is suppose to be overseeing this program and supposidly wanting to reduce the number of vouchers from the current 1662, determine how much Section 8 without HUD approval? What if they want to INCREASE the number above 1662? Who would police that as 1662 seems a bit saturated now. Does this "contract" look right to any of you or does it seem that CONSOC holds all the cards and the Council and city has no input at all????? Or am I reading this all wrong? I also don't see anything in the contract that would reduce the $85,000 per month charge to the city if the number of vouchers were reduced. Shouldn't there have been something like that in there? If CONSOC is administering to less vouchers as they are reduced, why should they be paid the full amount?

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VietVet Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Council Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008	Post Options Post Reply Quote VietVet Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: CONSOC Contract For 5-5 Mtg. Posted: May 04 2009 at 1:59pm
	OK- I'm reading through the contract that Council will sign with CONSOC.(Page 43 of 141) This is posted on the Council website under 5/5 Agendas. Contract For Professional Services- "The Agency may, with HUD approval, change the number of allocated program vouchers". Doesn't Council, who is suppose to be overseeing this program and supposidly wanting to reduce the number of vouchers from the current 1662, determine how much Section 8 without HUD approval? What if they want to INCREASE the number above 1662? Who would police that as 1662 seems a bit saturated now. Does this "contract" look right to any of you or does it seem that CONSOC holds all the cards and the Council and city has no input at all????? Or am I reading this all wrong? I also don't see anything in the contract that would reduce the $85,000 per month charge to the city if the number of vouchers were reduced. Shouldn't there have been something like that in there? If CONSOC is administering to less vouchers as they are reduced, why should they be paid the full amount?

Pacman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pacman Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: May 04 2009 at 2:44pm
	Vet until such time as the Vouchers start to actually decline I won't believe In a reduction. Under Section V of the agreement the compensation to CONSOC is a percentage of the fees paid by HUD, I am guessing. If I remember HUD pays a set fee per voucher each month that the voucher is in use. CONSOC get 78% of that and the City 22% if I am understanding the process. So as the Vouchers theoretically go down the amount paid by HUD would go down and CONSOC's fee would go down. I may be wrong and maybe Perplexed can step in and explain exactly how it works.
	When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. Thomas Jefferson

VietVet Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Council Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008	Post Options Post Reply Quote VietVet Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: May 04 2009 at 2:51pm
	Just as a side note to the 5-5 agenda. Page 108 of 141- TV Middletown Contract. Wonder if they're planning on taking Bill Becker's name off the contract as city manager?? I'm sure they will, but you just never know about this bunch. Wonder how they arrived at the $140,000 payment from the General Fund for TV Middletown's service? What do they do for this $140,000??? Wonder how long it's been since they audited the books to justify the payment?? Shouldn't Council be asking these types of questions instead of giving a blank check approval for expenditures?

2000+ Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Resident Joined: Jan 27 2009 Status: Offline Points: 100	Post Options Post Reply Quote 2000+ Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: May 04 2009 at 3:08pm
	Hey Vietvet - I think Merrell Wood used to try to get the city to audit and justify payment to TVM - his requests were ignored as are most citizen's inquiries....

Pacman Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 02 2007 Status: Offline Points: 2612	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pacman Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: May 04 2009 at 3:35pm
	Bet it takes longer to do all of the damn proclamations tomorrow than it dopes to approve CONSOC Deal.
	When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty. Thomas Jefferson

Perplexed Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Citizen Joined: Apr 22 2009 Status: Offline Points: 315	Post Options Post Reply Quote Perplexed Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: May 04 2009 at 3:56pm
	We should continuously thank and encourage Pacman, VietVet, 2000+, Vivian Moon, SpiderJohn, Mike Presta, Paul Nagy, Gary Barge, etc., etc. for trying to reform our arrogant, "only bureaucrats-know-best" local government here. Your efforts over the years are deeply appreciated. It's an uphill battle for sure, but not impossible!

spiderjohn Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 01 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2749	Post Options Post Reply Quote spiderjohn Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: May 04 2009 at 5:10pm
	Not impossible????? Dude--I think that we have turned the corner and are now winning the battle!! Council/admin has little to no public support. They have pretty much alienated everyone, and outside of their mutual admiration society, have been cornered. Council meetings are now equal to the comedy hour. ONE good candidater in each ward, and the city building party will be over. The mantra for change has only begun with Obama. The next election wave will be stronger! And if the current and next groups don't work out, then we will continue replacing EVERYONE until we get th.e proper mix. The simple Republican/Democrat stranglehold is over!

Perplexed Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List MUSA Citizen Joined: Apr 22 2009 Status: Offline Points: 315	Post Options Post Reply Quote Perplexed Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: May 04 2009 at 6:31pm
	If the local print media would ever publish the truth on substantial matters of waste, mismanagement, conflict of interest, etc., etc., as they are well aware, all of those "GUILTY CRITTERS" at City Hall would be scrambling like a bunch of spooked rats! It's time for some good old electoral "VERIMIN CONTROL" at One Donham Plaza!