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Why The City of Middletown Tax Levy MUST FAIL!

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Right you are, Mr. Saunders!!!

And this administration has made it perfectly clear that they don’t have ANYWHERE to go except to public safety to re-balance the budget while saving their precious arts and historic districts.

They will cut our police and fire forces in a heartbeat (no pun intended).

“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Don’t believe me???

They have the 0.25% right now!!!  How did they balance the 2012 budget???

They cut PUBLIC SAFETY!!!

What more proof do you need???

“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mike_Presta Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug 07 2012 at 6:30am

Yet they were licking their chops to pay more every month for electricity for decorative lamps for South Main. 

They subsidize arts right and left.

They buy buildings for all of their friends.

They give thousands to MMF.

Hundreds of thousands for “enhanced gateways”.

A million for bike paths.

A hundred grand for a couple more brick pillars for the “Welcome to Middletown” sign.

But they had to CUT PUBLIC SAFETY!!!

And you think that they won’t do it again????

“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pacman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug 07 2012 at 10:39pm
It is a fore gone conclusion that if this levy passes, they will have to cut firefighters or increase the levy in the 2nd or 3rd yrs if they are gven the grant of approxiametly $1M.  Once the $1M is spent who is going to pick up the bill?

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Question for Mr. Presta.
Mr. Presta since you seem to have your finger on the pulse of the city in your above comment you state, "They subsidize arts right and left." I am curious to learn who is they? And what arts have they subsidized from the right to the left?
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Question for Crazycatcher:
Have you followed city government at all during the last fourteen years???
“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Originally posted by Pacman Pacman wrote:

It is a fore gone conclusion that if this levy passes, they will have to cut firefighters or increase the levy in the 2nd or 3rd yrs if they are gven the grant of approxiametly $1M.  Once the $1M is spent who is going to pick up the bill?

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Pacman is correct.
The firefighters had six jobs cut this year, the last year of the present five-year 0.25% public safety payroll tax.  In return for their assistance in passing this permanent levy, the firefighters will get those six jobs back for only two years, then the city will cut those six positions (and likely more).
 
This is assuming that the State of Ohio does NOT cut funds to municipalities any further during those two years.
“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote VietVet Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: Aug 08 2012 at 6:24am
2600 voters from a city of 48,000 people. Very frustrating to see. Wondering how many of the 2600 represented the friends of city hall? AJ and the gang must be giddy with delight as old AJ works toward his days after council and his longing to work side by side with his union buddies with the job he hopes to get in return for his union support.

Now, we can sit back and see what transpires in two years when the grant money runs out and they start the layoffs again. Will the average Middletonian even notice? Will they care?

Apparently, it didn't matter to people in this town when they lied to us on the first levy and laid people off despite the promise of no layoffs. The levy supporters must admire the art of lying and deceit.

The wrath is not directed toward the police, medics and firefighters as much as it is on the city leaders and council and their deceit and lies with regard to telling the truth from day one about the money intentions for this levy.

As long as the majority of people lay on the couch, watching reality TV, and don't bother to vote against the wishes of the people who would ruin this town, the bad guys will get their way. If you keep giving them money, they will continue to run the same game on the people. Sad to see. How in the hell do you combat apathy? How bad does it have to get before the apathetic people take notice?
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more than you can possibly imagine Mr. Presta. So our city government has given various arts organizations hundreds of thousands of dollars? Perhaps I just need my mind refreshed other than the Pendelton Art Center what arts organizations have benefited from the city?
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