Here is the link to the
Community Development Grant (CDBG) Program
Home Investment Partnerships (Home) Program
PY 2012 Projected Budgeted Use Of Funds 5-01-2012 – 4-30-2013
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohcmiddl/images/2012-H2.gif

....and I will say it one more time....HUD will not let Middletown reduce their number of Section 8 housing vouchers.

Viet - the city isn't receiving the money, and they didn't apply for it. The recipient of the funds was Trinity Manor Senior Housing Limited Partnership.

The money isn't going to new units. It's not going to rehabbing existing units. It's being used to hire service coordinators for senior citizens and disabled residents.

Did you even bother to read the article?

ABSOLUTELY INCREDIBLE!!!!! Midd. Journal story.....

City proposes reduction in Section 8 vouchers

MIDDLETOWN —
The city’s public housing agency board will entertain a proposal today to reduce the number of Section 8 vouchers by more than 1,000 over the next few years.

The Middletown Public Housing Agency, which manages the city’s Section 8 voucher program, is not in compliance with federal requirements of the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, according to a Sept. 24 letter from the federal agency. The city is required to have at least 95 percent of its 1,662 vouchers awarded to an applicant. However, the city is around 82 percent.

To gain compliance, Community Revitalization Director Doug Adkins is proposing the city reduce, through attrition, the number of vouchers the city offers either by transferring them to another public housing agency or return them to HUD.

AND NOW THE CLINCHER FROM ADKINS!!!

“The demographics show that the city can only effectively support 654 housing choice vouchers within the MPHA program,” Adkins wrote in a draft summary"

WHAT HAVE WE BEEN SAYING FOR A YEAR NOW ON THIS FORUM CONCERNING THE CORRECT NUMBER OF VOUCHERS FOR A CITY THIS SIZE???? WOW, JUST A TAD BIT SLOW ON THE REACTION FROM CITY HALL, RIGHT?

UN-FRIKKIN' BELIEVABLE.

The city has about 500 Section 8 landlords with about 1,400 Section 8 properties, which includes housing from both the Middletown and Butler public housing agencies, low-income tax credits and other HUD-funded projects.

“Taken together, subsidized housing represents 3,337 housing units, or 14.3 percent of our total housing,” Adkins said

AND NOW, ANOTHER THING THAT WILL MAKE YOU PROUD TO LIVE HERE.....

Middletown has 2,255 subsidized housing units, which is 9.7 percent of the city’s total households. That’s the HIGHEST PERCENTAGE IN OHIO, according to the city. Chillicothe Housing Agency is second with 8.5 percent of all households that are subsidized housing. Butler County Public Housing Authority is at 1.7 percent and Warren County Public Housing Authority is at 0.8 percent. The state average is 2.6 percent.

Subsidized housing

Area public housing authority’s rates of subsidized housing (number of vouchers in parentheses):

9.7 percent: Middletown (1,662 vouchers)

5.1 percent: Cincinnati (11,266 vouchers)

1.7 percent: Butler County (1,111 vouchers)

1.5 percent: Clermont County (906 vouchers)

0.8 percent: Warren County (448 vouchers)

0.3 percent: Preble County (52 vouchers)

Source: City of Middletown

LOOK AT MIDDLETOWN AND THEN LOOK AT THE REST OF BUTLER COUNTY. IGNORANCE ABOUNDS IN CITY HALL FOR BRINGING IN THIS AMOUNT OF A GHETTO BUILDING PROGRAM. WHY PEOPLE, WHY???

Gilliland has been severely slow on the switch on the section 8 issue. This alone is enough to warrant her firing.

Posted: 5:00 a.m. Tuesday, Oct. 16, 2012
City proposes reduction in Section 8 vouchers

By Michael D. Pitman
Staff Writer

MIDDLETOWN —

The city’s public housing agency board will entertain a proposal today to reduce the number of Section 8 vouchers by more than 1,000 over the next few years.
Why wasn’t this item included in the City Council Meeting Agenda for this evening?

The Middletown Public Housing Agency, which manages the city’s Section 8 voucher program, is not in compliance with federal requirements of the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, according to a Sept. 24 letter from the federal agency. The city is required to have at least 95 percent of its 1,662 vouchers awarded to an applicant. However, the city is around 82 percent.

To gain compliance, Community Revitalization Director Doug Adkins is proposing the city reduce, through attrition, the number of vouchers the city offers either by transferring them to another public housing agency or return them to HUD.
To gain compliance? How will these actions bring the city into compliance? How can you tranfer the vouchers when the surrounding counties do not want more Section 8 Housing in their area and I have never heard of returning vouchers to HUD.

“The demographics show that the city can only effectively support 654 housing choice vouchers within the MPHA program,” Adkins wrote in a draft summary.
    In the 96 page report that Mr Adkins submitted to HUD on June 2010 he failed to prove this point. HUD answered by suggesting that Mr. Adkins better utilize the HUD Funds in the area of greatest need to solve the problems.
    As I have stated before on this blog Mr Adkins has not addressed the areas of highest proverty and crime such as the Crawford Street area in his 5 year plan.
ManyHUD Funds have been divereted away from the “areas of greatest need” located in the 1^st and 2^nd Wards.       

In the proposal, Adkins writes that the city should not allow subsidized housing stock to exceed 10 percent of total available housing, or 23,296 units. Further saturation beyond that, he writes, would cause more problems than benefits to the city.
If in fact 10% is the magic number for subsidized housing in Middletown why wasn’t this fact made public 12 years ago beforeMPHA City Council started requesting 200 additional Section 8 vouchers a years to increase the population, fill the empty housing stock of the city and increase the coffers of City Hall?

Adkins said the Middletown Public Housing Agency generally turns over 200 vouchers a year for various reasons.

“The proposal given to the (public housing agency) board specifically states that all families that have vouchers will get to keep their voucher and remain where they are for as long as they remain compliant with program regulations,” Adkins said.

If HUD finds the city is in violation of the Fair Housing Act, then the federal government “would then have to decide to punish additional low income families by cutting funding,” Adkins said.
I believe that HUD can also remove the admistration of the Section 8 program from MPHA and turn it over to Butler County.

“HUD would not take those actions quickly or without careful consideration of the consequences to the low/moderate income people affected,” he said.

The city has about 500 Section 8 landlords with about 1,400 Section 8 properties, which includes housing from both the Middletown and Butler public housing agencies, low-income tax credits and other HUD-funded projects.

“Taken together, subsidized housing represents 3,337 housing units, or 14.3 percent of our total housing,” Adkins said.
HUD Response to the Middletown 96 Page 2010 Study :
Housing Choice Vouchers……..1,662
Butler MHA Units………………..593
HUD Project Based Units………..384  Listed as privately owned Section 202/811
HOPE House………………………50   Emergency Shelter for Homeless
ODMH Transitional Living………66    HUD has no data
TOTAL……………………….....2,755

Middletown has 2,255 subsidized housing units, which is 9.7 percent of the city’s total households. That’s the highest percentage in Ohio, according to the city. Chillicothe Housing Agency is second with 8.5 percent of all households that are subsidized housing. Butler County Public Housing Authority is at 1.7 percent and Warren County Public Housing Authority is at 0.8 percent. The state average is 2.6 percent.

The plan is being presented on the heels of a letter received from HUD’s Midwest Region office in Cleveland. It states the city has not issued any vouchers since Jan. 1, even though there were two applicants on a waiting list, and it is not in compliance with the 95 percent level. The letter requested the city submit a “formalized corrective action plan.”

HUD spokeswoman Laura Feldman said the agency is unable to comment at this time as they have not seen a proposal. A proposal, according to the Sept. 24-dated letter from HUD, requested a plan be submitted within 30 days which would be Oct. 24.

“This is not a typical situation,” Feldman said. “Normally housing authorities want to increase their vouchers because they have a waiting list.”

Landlord Missy McCall, who said she’s not familiar with the proposal, would be okay with a reduction in Section 8 vouchers so long as those who need the assistance get the assistance.

“What about those people who are having crises that is just developed,” she said. “We can’t always budget our crises when we need assistance.”

But she said the administration needs to do what’s best for the city, the people on the program and the landlords “so there’s a balance.”

From a landlord perspective, McCall said it doesn’t appear it wouldn’t make a big difference as a housing provider. She said a demand for rental properties is up over the past four years, but that’s a combination of people who can’t buy homes and a slightly improving economy.

Landlords and utilities receive more than 90 percent of the city’s Section 8 funding.

The 2012 program is budgeted to receive about $11 million. Of that funding, Adkins said about $1 million is designated for administration and the remainder is distributed to landlords and utilities as rental and utility assistance to voucher holders. More than 50 percent of the rental assistance funding is made to out-of-town landlords.
Again this is a misleading statement since the majority of these landlords live within 20 miles of Middletown.

I would like to suggest that you read the 96 Page 2010 Report and the HUD response for a better understanding of this problem.

 

Gentlemen
Do you not find it odd that Mr. Adkins has chosen this time to decide to make war on local Real Estate Investors..…just after City Hall has become a real estate investor with the land banking program?

If NEW YORK CITY can dump 3000 vounchers, why can't Middletown dump 1000 or so???

From MJ:

There is a lot of inaccurate information that has been on this forum.
First.. 15 years ago some landlords did not have to rent section 8. You could rent properties to people who had decent jobs in Middletown. To have your properties pass section 8 inspections there is a list that has to be done. Take a look at all the little things that have to be done. Many of your homes would not pass.
If you look around Middletown.. The homes you see with broken glass, falling apart, etc.. THESE ARE NOT SECTION 8.

There are a lot of landlords that live in Middletown. They have family, friends and businesses in Middletown. Their children go to school in Middletown. Of course they care about the crime in Middletown...
and they report any people committing crimes. Also they can and sometimes are terminated from the program. No landlord wants any crimes or trouble at a property!

Speaking of that I have personally had people come up to me and ask me for money at different locations around Middletown....those are not the people on the program.


If landlords do not rent section 8 (BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE IS COMING TO MIDDLETOWN ) you will have properties empty! No income means no taxes paid, foreclosures, no money for local businesses and NO MONEY FOR THE CITY!

If you were looking at a new city to move into would you choose Middletown???

Professional people that do have money to buy housing and spend in Middletown do not choose Middletown. Sad but true...
If you are from out of town and drive into Middletown what's the first thing you notice?
Let's see.. a dilapidated mall. People that have money want a place to spend it. They want quality shopping. The Towne Mall deal should have been done years ago. What did the City of Middletown do??

Then let them look up the Middletown City Schools report cards..
Which is one of the first things parents do when considering a city to move into.
Most schools are rated effective and some rated academic emergency!
If you had a choice of public schools would you choose this city?
NO.

Landlords having to rent section 8 are not the problem..they are trying to keep a business together that costs a lot of money to run and maintain. They spend A LOT of money in Middletown!!


You can blame section 8... but if you take away that housing you will see a lot more empty houses.. and businesses failing.

Mr. Adkins need to look at why people are not moving into Middletown. It's not because of section 8 vouchers!!

Circles in town? If you are trying to say I am from the "ghetto" you are way off. Maybe you should talk to someone beyond your circle.

Do you never go to McDonalds, Subway or the mall? Ask around in your circle of friends, perhaps within your church,if none of them have ever been asked for money in Middletown?


Make rent competitive??
You have no idea what you are talking about.. all apartments in the city have LOWER there rent. Every one of them! No deposit special etc... That has nothing to do with section 8! Most of the apartment complexes do accept section 8. If they do not ask what the vacancy rate is?

Yes... when you remodel your properties you spend a lot of money..
And pay labor!

You forgot to mention the schools???
Parents look at that first!

LMAO

Your right... my point exactly..Landlords spend a lot of money remodeling!
If you had hundreds of tenants you would rent section 8. If that is the only people coming into Middletown.

That's right, LH4, I have never had anyone come up to me and ask me for money in this town. Might be that my work takes me out of town each day, I don't see the workings of the town each day as you may see it and I travel around town very infrequently as I'm tied to my home most of the time. Dunno

"If you are trying to say I am from the "ghetto" you are way off"

Nope, never said YOU were from the ghetto. I called the Section 8 program a ghetto builder. I singled out no one, just the program as a whole and the image it portrays.

"Do you never go to McDonalds, Subway or the mall? Ask around in your circle of friends, perhaps within your church,if none of them have ever been asked for money in Middletown?"

Nope, unfortunately not as much as I use to. When not working in Dayton, take care of my wife who is paralyzed. No time these days to "get out and see the sights".

"Make rent competitive??
You have no idea what you are talking about"

You may be right here. I am not familiar with the renter/Section 8 renter thing. Just trying to suggest an alternative for you to fill your homes with renters other than Section 8, that's all.

"Yes... when you remodel your properties you spend a lot of money..
And pay labor!"

But how often do you remodel? Every year? Every 3 years? Do your Section 8 people destroy your properties on a frequent basis? If so, why would you want to headaches?

"You forgot to mention the schools???
Parents look at that first!"

Oh, if you knew me and have read my posts, I NEVER forget the schools and their pathetic performance the last 3 decades. I'm a big proponent of abolishing it all and starting over with rebuilding the school district. I'm well aware of what the surrounding communities have to say about the Middletown schools and the low opinions people have nowadays. Wasn't like that in the 50's and 60's when I went through this system. Topnotch back then.