More money does NOT equal better results!!
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Topic: More money does NOT equal better results!!
Posted By: Mike_Presta
Subject: More money does NOT equal better results!!
Date Posted: Nov 22 2008 at 1:02am
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More money does NOT equal better results!!
From the Saturday, November 22, 2008 Middletown Journal:
Now I understand all of the info about Urban school districts, etc., but consider that some of the worst performing districts in the nation (in inner city Washington DC and Chicago) have expenditures per student of $15K to $18+K per year!!  to the Ross School District, all of its students, all of its teachers and other staff, its administration, and the parents!!!  |
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Posted By: Pacman
Date Posted: Nov 22 2008 at 11:55am
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For those that don't understand the info about Urban School Districts:
Ross Pop: 6448
Middletown Pop: 51303
Students in School system Ross: 1436
Students in School system Middletown: 6645
Median Income Ross: $57125.00
Median Income Middletown : $36215.00
Residents Below Poverty Level Ross: 2.5%
Residents Below Poverty Leve Middletown: 12.6%
Population by Race Ross:
White 98.5%
Black .2%
Other 1.3%
Population by Race Middletown
White 86.5%
Black 10.6%
Other 2.9%
Section 8 Housing Ross 0
Section 8 Housing Middletown 1662
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Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Nov 26 2008 at 7:22am
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Pacman
When we start discussing education in Middletown we also need to discuss the early childhood education program known as Head Start and the millions spent on this program. This program was put in place in the 1960's to ensure that lower income children would get the extra time and education needed to be ready for school.
Why isn't this program doing a better job here in Middletown? |
Posted By: Pacman
Date Posted: Nov 26 2008 at 8:48am
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A better comparison and still Middletown can't seem to compete...WHY?
Hamilton Pop: 62285
Middletown Pop: 51303 Students in School system Hamilton: 9737 Students in School system Middletown: 6645 Median Income: $39109.00 Median Income Middletown: $36215.00 Residents Below Poverty Level Hamilton: 13.4% Residents Below Poverty Level Middletown: 12.6% Population by Race Hamilton: White 88.0% Black 7.5% Other 4.5% Population by Race Middletown White 86.5% Black 10.6% Other 2.9% Section 8 Housing Hamilton--Unable to obtain as Hamilton falls within the Butler County Housing authority. Suffice it to say Hamilton probably makes up the bulk of Butler County’s Section 8 Housing, yet it is still significantly less than Middletown’s Section 8 housing. Section 8 Housing Middletown 1662 Hamilton States Indicators met 19 of 30 Performance Index 92 AYP not met District Designation Effective Middletown State Indicators met 5 of 30 Performance Index 80 AYP Not Met District Designation Continuous Improvement Hamilton Expenditures per student $8,985 Middletown Expenditure per student $10,825 |
Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: Nov 26 2008 at 9:04am
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thanx for the stats pacman
hopefully the MCSB will act on the audit recommendations as mentioned.
That would be a positive step
plus--we must find like-minded pro-active citizens capable of challenging Rev.Tyus and Ms.Andrews next fall.
Replacing them should not be difficult if we have worthy alternatives
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Posted By: Middletown News
Date Posted: Nov 26 2008 at 10:19am
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Its not the money, its the demographics. Its that simple.
If the parents don't support the schools by making their children behave, study and be good students, any amount of money will be waisted. ------------- Please like our http://www.facebook.com/middletownusa" rel="nofollow - Middletown USA Facebook Page |
Posted By: Pacman
Date Posted: Nov 26 2008 at 10:42am
| Jonathan The demographics between Middletown and Hamilton are pretty close, except when you get down to Section 8 housing and school performance. |
Posted By: .308
Date Posted: Nov 26 2008 at 4:35pm
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I live in what I thought was a decent part of Middletown on the east end, yet with each passing year the level of vandalism in the neighborhood continues to rise. I would say that if parents cannot keep enough control of their kids to prevent these activities they have little chance of helping them succeed in school.
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Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Nov 27 2008 at 10:02am
| .308-I agree with your second statement. IMO, if we want to see any progress at all on parental involvement to get little Johnny to behave and to absorb anything that the schools are teaching, we must involve the law with a "get tough" program. We all know that some parents in this school district aren't responsible enough to see that their kids get to school and learn. I'm sure the schools have heard all of the excuses from those parents as to why their kid isn't in school. The schools have tried all of the "kinder/gentler" methods of counseling, phone calls, warnings, expulsions, etc. and I would guess that after all of that, we still have repeat offenders. If we make it painful enough for these parents in a legal sense, and the employer gets involved because the parent is missing too much work because of court dates/jail time, perhaps,(and then again, maybe not) the hardheaded parents will start getting the message to make the kid's education a priority in their lives.Wishful thinking? Probably- but, then again, we've tried about everything else haven't we? |