Middletown's Pioneer Cemetery
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Topic: Middletown's Pioneer Cemetery
Posted By: randy
Subject: Middletown's Pioneer Cemetery
Date Posted: Oct 22 2009 at 10:02am
I made the trip down to Middletown's most historic cemetery to get some pictures of the cemetery after the removal of the shrubbery. This is what I saw.  The vault  A line of damaged headstones next to the vault  The corner next to Denny lumber.  A city worker pulled in as I was taking pictures drove around left, parked up the street till I left.  The center of the cemetery use to hold flowers and bushes, now this is what you see. ------------- Call me for a www.CameraSecurityNow.com" rel="nofollow - www.CameraSecurityNow.com quote 513-422-1907 x357 |
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Posted By: Pacman
Date Posted: Oct 22 2009 at 10:05am
| Has anyone actually heard from the City as to why they did this? |
Posted By: randy
Date Posted: Oct 22 2009 at 10:09am
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I am sending a email to the city manager and everyone on council as we speak. I too would like to know why. I will let you when and if I get a response
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Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Oct 22 2009 at 12:05pm
We still haven't heard from any councilmember as to who ordered the removals, have we? Should we contact ALL council people to see which one will step up to the plate and tell the public who ordered this? Bet we will never know. Perhaps another example of our representatives not being honest with the people they are obligated to serve? How about calling the city building directly and asking the city manager who ordered this? She is ultimately responsible for the decision. We must insist that they answer this question. Push the issue until there is a verbal confrontation if necessary. 
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Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: Oct 22 2009 at 12:11pm
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Why not Mr.Armbruster? It is his ward, and he is running for re-election. If he does not respond, then it should be very telling about his commitment to his constituents and citizens in general. Doubt that the city manager approach is best. |
Posted By: Bobbie
Date Posted: Oct 22 2009 at 12:29pm
| I would like to know why the journal did not mention any of this as well. Maybe we should all start calling sound off maybe something will get printed. I don't understand how anybody would do this - they are just as bad as the vandals that kick over the markers. |
Posted By: Hermes
Date Posted: Oct 22 2009 at 12:43pm
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Thats interesting that a city employee is patroling the cemetery,I'm surprised they didn't call the police on you Randy.
We need some before and after photos of the cemetery. Show how good it looked when Vivian took care of it compared to the total destruction by the city. I don't know why we couldn't get the names of the employees who took everything out and charge them with vandalism, if any one of us went in there and took out something that was planted there is no doubt we'd be charged.
Where did Vivian purchase the shrubs and flowers when she planted them ? Perhaps someone got upset that the purchase was not made at the RIGHT business ?? And maybe thats why the big push to plant flowers all around the city ?
Just my thoughts for the day. ------------- No more democrats no more republicans,vote Constitution Party !! |
Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Oct 22 2009 at 1:05pm
If the heat gets turned up, the high muckety-mucks will choose an expendable underling, and throw them in front of the train (claim that they did it without the knowledge or authorization of the higher-ups.)
Note: this is simply an opinion. ------------- “Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012 |
randy wrote:Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Oct 22 2009 at 2:22pm
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This was Ms Gillland's reply to Mr. Don Thompson last week From: Gilleland, Judith Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 3:17 PM To: *All Council Members Cc: Duritsch, David J Jr Subject: Pioneer Cemetery Mayor and Members of Council, I wanted to quickly update you on Pioneer Cemetery. We will know more details once Ron Phelps returns from vacation. A quick review of the year includes Ms. Moon telling us in June that she would no longer volunteer in the cemetery and instructed city staff on what needed to be done in the cemetery to care for the planting beds that she had established. As a result, I thanked Ms. Moon for her volunteer time, asked her to not give work direction to city staff – we’ve apparently had several discussions with her about creating extra work for staff and the contractors there. I asked her to get written city permission if she ever intended to do more work in the cemetery. I am told that since our crews did not have the wherewithal to maintain the beds that Ms. Moon had planted, they went to seed. A couple of months ago, Mr. Phelps informed Ms. Moon that the beds were going to be removed and returned to grass. Further, he asked her to remove any plants that she wanted prior to the city doing the removal. Ms. Moon did not take any action to remove any plants during the two month period. Our crews (headed by Doris Baden, our plant expert) returned the beds to grass for ease of maintenance. The plants that were living and of value were moved to other areas of the city, while most of the bulbs remain where they were planted. Again, Dave D. is attempting to confirm the above details, but we believe this is what transpired. We do not intend to spend anymore staff time on this issue, please let me know if you have any questions in this regard. Thanks, Judy Judith A. Gilleland City Manager
City of Middletown One Donham Plaza Middletown, Ohio 45042 (513) 425-7836 |
Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Oct 22 2009 at 2:36pm
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But fellow bloggers you only need to ask yourself one question... Do you really believe as much as I love City Hall that I gave them permission to remove five years of my work and over $4.700 worth of plants to be planted in other parts of the City? |
Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Oct 22 2009 at 2:50pm
| Vivian....No Way In H***!! |
Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Oct 22 2009 at 3:03pm
| Vivian...Was looking through some photos I took of the Pioneer Cemetery earlier this year and noticed it was founded on May 30, 1827. Was the vault built at that time or at a later date? Thanx. Incidentally, I have relatives buried there. |
Posted By: swohio75
Date Posted: Oct 22 2009 at 3:05pm
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I am told that since our crews did not have the wherewithal to maintain the beds that Ms. Moon had planted, they went to seed. A couple of months ago, Mr. Phelps informed Ms. Moon that the beds were going to be removed and returned to grass. Further, he asked her to remove any plants that she wanted prior to the city doing the removal. I think that pretty much sums it up. You had the opportunity to remove your plants from city property and failed to do so. |
Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Oct 22 2009 at 3:15pm
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swohio75.........but we believe this is what transpired Ask them to prove it.....
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Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Oct 22 2009 at 3:16pm
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It sounds like either Mr. Phelps or Ms. Baden have just been "volunteered" to "take one for the team." ------------- “Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012 |
Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Oct 22 2009 at 3:32pm
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409 |
Posted By: randy
Date Posted: Oct 22 2009 at 3:53pm
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 I spoke to a council member just after I took this picture, I am told there is a meeting tomorrow and Pioneer will be talked about. I was also told that there are weekend hours for the cemetery or atleast should be and the council member is not sure why there are not posted on the sign. I should get a phone call tomorrow and have some more information for all of you. ------------- Call me for a www.CameraSecurityNow.com" rel="nofollow - www.CameraSecurityNow.com quote 513-422-1907 x357 |
Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Oct 22 2009 at 3:58pm
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Randy This is a new sign that has been placed within the past few weeks.
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Posted By: randy
Date Posted: Oct 22 2009 at 4:03pm
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Posted By: wasteful
Date Posted: Oct 22 2009 at 4:08pm
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So in the Summer time when it is light until 8:30-9:00PM you can't go visit your relatives after 3:00pm and you will have to take time off from work if you want to visit them at all. I tell you this Cemetery mess gets stranger by the day. This seems to be nothing but a vendetta against the citizens of Middletown by a few select City Employees. This is beyond ridicules.
Two can play this game. The next time the city wants something oh I don't know tax increase for employee salaries, bennies.................that will be a NO VOTE.
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Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Oct 22 2009 at 4:19pm
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Wasteful
The old cemetery hours were from 8 am til dusk (8pm in summer)
I have told them numerous times that large numbers of people from all over the US come to visit this cemetery...however they will not listen to me. Wait until someone from out of town drives all the way here and can't get in all he** will break loose on them. Hope they have posted a phone number to call. People also bring their dogs to the cemetery after they get off work and let them run. That also helps keep the ground hogs out of the cemetery. |
Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Oct 22 2009 at 4:27pm
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Everyone in Middletown knows that this is a personal vendetta against me and the Middletown Cemetery because I filed a complaint with the State of Ohio against them for not taking care of the cemetery and the fact that they stole the Middletown Cemetery Perpetual Care Fund and now have the nerve to tell me they have no money to restore the vault. |
Posted By: randy
Date Posted: Oct 22 2009 at 4:28pm
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Were those old hours weekends too? These new hours bother me but the fact that nothing is said about weekends bothers me even more. ------------- Call me for a www.CameraSecurityNow.com" rel="nofollow - www.CameraSecurityNow.com quote 513-422-1907 x357 |
Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Oct 22 2009 at 4:36pm
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Randy Yes. the hours were the same as Woodside Cemetery 7 days a week.
Did you receive my photos? |
Posted By: randy
Date Posted: Oct 22 2009 at 4:39pm
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I did get your pictures I will post them for soon
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Posted By: wannaknow
Date Posted: Oct 22 2009 at 7:17pm
| Was there a letter telling you to remove plants, Ms. Moon? |
Posted By: Nameless
Date Posted: Oct 22 2009 at 8:29pm
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The city took the plants out because the cemetery is CITY OWNED property..They have the right to landscape and maintain the grounds as they see fit..
Vivian- Did you ever get permission to plant those plants? If not, then maybe YOU should be arrested for vandalism for destruction of city property..You guys are wanting to go after the workers who were doing their jobs and removed the landscaping when maybe you were in the wrong to put it there in the first place!!
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Posted By: accuro
Date Posted: Oct 22 2009 at 8:56pm
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The city of Middletown maintains nothing, but its own coffers and increasingly alarming feeling of entitlement. Undoubtedly Ms. Moon angered the city by her legal action or hearing, which in all probablity will not go in her favor as the ambiquity associated with "maintain" is quite broad. In retaliation, the city clearly took the plants out, as they did not want the poitential perceived aggrevation and complaint maintaining Ms. Moon's previous work product was neglected.
It is astounding a city truck is wasting gas sitting in idle monitoring the cemetary for purposes unknown. But, as nameless states, as the city has responsibility for maintaining the property, they can remove whatever they feel is necessary, although clearly retalitory, by alleging it would be too much inconvenience to be troubled by additional grounds keeping.
Nonetheless, these petty action, in my opinion, continue to illuminate the city of Middletown in such a negative manner it continues to hamper additional families and companies having any desire or willingness to associate with Middletown in any capacity.
I don't know whom your legal representation is Ms. moon, but I would have strongly objected to the delay by Mr. Landem at your hearing. Administrative hearings are very difficult to prevail, and the city may when the battle but lose the war on these issue, as it clearly shows pettiness, cavalier mentality, and retaliation for someone volunteering time and effort associated with pride and historic perspective.
The silence is defeaning by those on council, but that's to be expected with their track record of apathy, protecting special interests, and apathy towards all residents, which will not change. Amazing when property values are at levels 25 years ago, roads in shambles, incompentency rules, and the town boarded like a ghetto, the issues front and center are elimination of wards, and HUD.
Middletown's death spiral is one it will never be free, as the freefall continues. ------------- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. - Will Rogers |
Posted By: Mr. Dave
Date Posted: Oct 22 2009 at 9:48pm
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Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Oct 23 2009 at 3:44am
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Yet, apparently someone on staff DID spend more time the last few days:
Didn’t everyone understand Ms. Gilleland’s “intentions”, or did they just choose to ignore her? Also, Ms. Gilleland just can’t seem to get to the bottom of this until Mr. Phelps returns!! Folks, how ironic that a “Mr. Phelps” is involved!!! I can hear Ms. Gilleland now, stating that “Mr. Phelps, if you or any of the Mission Impossible Force are discovered, the city will dis-avow any knowledge of your actions!” They will probably blame it on “disgruntled union employees” who were angry that Ms. Moon was being allowed to perform “their work” when layoffs were about to occur!!! They seem to try to blame a lot of the city’s financial problems on the unions! Stand back from that tape cartridge, “Mr. Phelps”!!! This is the point where something always bursts into flames!!! (And we may not have enough fire fighters to save you!)------------- “Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012 |
Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Oct 23 2009 at 5:05am
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The city took the plants out because the cemetery is CITY OWNED property..They have the right to landscape and maintain the grounds as they see fit.. Nameless, You need to read ORC cemetery law. Vivian- Did you ever get permission to plant those plants? If not, then maybe YOU should be arrested for vandalism for destruction of city property. In fact I did get permission and all designs were ok'd by City and some by the Middletown Community Foundation You guys are wanting to go after the workers who were doing their jobs and removed the landscaping when maybe you were in the wrong to put it there in the first place!! I don't want the jobs of any workers, the majority have been very good to me over the years. HOWEVER I DO WANT THE JOB OF THE PERSON WHO GAVE THE ORDER FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF THE CEMETERY. The Middletown Cemetery Committee wants to be fully reimbursed for the plants that were stolen. |
Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Oct 23 2009 at 5:09am
| Was there a letter telling you to remove plants, Ms. Moon? Wannaknow, No, I never received a letter. |
Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Oct 23 2009 at 5:23am
| Has anyone actually heard from the City as to why they did this? Pacman, I've heard that the City is having a meeting today to discuss the problems at the cemetery. |
Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Oct 23 2009 at 5:46am
| The silence is defeaning by those on council, but that's to be expected with their track record of apathy, protecting special interests, and apathy towards all residents, which will not change. Accuro, I just can't understand why the City does not understand the pain they have caused the families that have loved ones buried at the Middletown Cemetery. The families had been calling the City for years to complain about the conditions of the cemetery. When I started working on the cemetery these families really downloaded on me. You just can't imagin the condition of the grounds. I will admit I was amazed and overwhelmed by all the work that needed to be completed. I have worked for 5 years and the cemetery still does not meet Ohio State Cemetery Minimum Guidelines. |
Posted By: Pacman
Date Posted: Oct 23 2009 at 6:36am
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Vivian I would say the City has more than a problem. They have a huge PR problem from the Stand point of the Families that have family members buried at the cemetery and also families that will continue to bury their family members there. These new hours are ridicules and all I assume so an employee can go and unlock the gate at 8:00 am and then an employee to lock it up at 3:00pm before the day shift goes home, and no weekend hours you have got to be kidding me. Does the city really think people only go there during working hours.
The city has also added to the lack of trust issue that many of the city's citizens have that the City is doing what is best and right for it's citizens.
This whole matter could have been handled is a much better manner and should have been.
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Posted By: Kelly
Date Posted: Oct 23 2009 at 8:26am
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Umm...you know, Keep Middletown Beautiful plants things all over Middletown city's "properties" - why hasn't someone enlisted this organization to care for the flowers and foliage in the pioneer cemetary? Isn't that their job? Isn't that what they tout on a monthly basis?
This forum has discussed ad nauseum the (ir)responsibility of the Historical Society to care about this historical cemetary..
What is the underlying problem here? We have 2 organizations who should/could step up and say they will take care of it. Obviously Miss Vivian did her share with upkeep and also had more than her share of receiving harrassment from the city. I am sure she would be delighted if one or both of these organizations were to take up the cemetary task.
Why are both the Keep Middletown Beautiful folks and the Historical Society folks strangely silent on this issue??
And again I ask: What is the underlying problem here? Is it purely budgetary?? Is it purely revenge? What???
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Posted By: da120757
Date Posted: Oct 23 2009 at 8:37am
| so i guess i missed something? With the new Hours are they now locking the gates at the cemetery? |
Posted By: wasteful
Date Posted: Oct 23 2009 at 8:47am
| I don't know da, but when I first saw the pic of the sign that was my first assumption also they would be locking it up using city employees. Can not think of any other reason to close at 3:00pm and no Weekend Hours. Doesn't make much sense. |
Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Oct 23 2009 at 9:05am
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Why are both the Keep Middletown Beautiful folks and the Historical Society folks strangely silent on this issue??
And again I ask: What is the underlying problem here? Is it purely budgetary?? Is it purely revenge? What???
Kelly, because of legal issues I’m unable to answer your questions on this blog. However if you really want to know the answers to your questions you are welcome to call me at 727-1942. |
Posted By: randy
Date Posted: Oct 23 2009 at 9:25am
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Email and pictures from Mrs. Moon to me: When I met with the City in 2005 concerning the cemetery being vandalized, Mark Hoffman stated that the police could not see into the cemetery on the Richmond Street side of the cemetery. It is the job of the Public Works Department to spray all fence lines around the cemetery in the spring so they do not need to be string trimmed by the mowing crew. In the spring of 2009 I called Ron Phelps and requested that the West Fence Line be double sprayed on both sides so the shrubs and stink trees would not return. About 6 weeks later I called him again and told him that the fence lines were still not sprayed and the shrubs and stink trees were growing again...he got mad. I then told him that I would not clear the fence line again for the City... When I walked into cemetery in 2004 the entire west fence line was covered. A big hole large enough to drive a car though, was in the back section. It took us three years to clear this fence line because the shrubs had grown through, around and into the fence. It was so bad that we had to hand cut out each branch so the fence would not be damaged. The very back section is still not completed. Kevin Ingram and his crew helped me in 2009 to clear some o this fence line. Drive down Richmond Street and I think you will fully understand why I was a bit upset with Mr. Phelps. Vivian **See photos    I have driven down Richmond Street and it is not pretty. ------------- Call me for a www.CameraSecurityNow.com" rel="nofollow - www.CameraSecurityNow.com quote 513-422-1907 x357 |
Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Oct 23 2009 at 10:14am
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Why are both the Keep Middletown Beautiful folks and the Historical Society folks strangely silent on this issue??
Kelly
I contacted contact Keep Middletown Beautiful several years ago.
They only take care of their own plantings. The Middletown Historical Society refused to file grants for the Middletown Cemetery Committee.
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Posted By: Nick_Kidd
Date Posted: Oct 23 2009 at 10:59am
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Vivian, since your hard work had made much improvment to the Pioneer Cemetery, it no longer fit in to city hall's master plan. How could a well planted and cared for cemetery fit in to our terrible streets, section 8 housing slum that council has created? You, working alone, have made more improvment to Middletown than the city officials and all of our tax dollars have in the last thirty years. It seems funny that the city doesn't have time to maintain the flower beds, but have time for a city worker to sit and watch the cemetery (for what purpose?). Council's silence on this subject at the last meeting is just how they handle all of the REAL problems of the city. ------------- Government is not the answer to problems, government is the problem. |
Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Oct 23 2009 at 11:16am
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Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Oct 23 2009 at 12:20pm
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DEATH OF AN This story happens all over our country every year. It happens because of the inaction and apathy of the community leaders.
And now it’s happening in Over the years the Now City Manager Judy Gilleland and Mayor Larry Mulligan have recommend to the City Council that the sacred grounds of the I never thought I would live to see this day....but for the first time in my life I’m ashamed to be part of the Middletown Community. |
Posted By: accuro
Date Posted: Oct 23 2009 at 12:39pm
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You're point is well made, and it reminded me of one of my favorite poems, In Flanders Field. For those whom haven't read it, it was written about a battle in WWI and the deaths on the battlefield after a major had delivered the eulogy of a dead soldier.
I'm surprised you are surpised Ms. Moon. Middletown is the city of entitlement, protecting the needs of the ungry beast called the city workers, and has rarely been about the citizens since the early 1980's. I wouldn't be surpised if Dean Cowan leaves academia to become some change agent for downtown, which will never happen. Obviously, the city's plan is to gut as much if not all of downtown and rebuild, but who would be interested in Middletown? Young adults attracted to pollution, waste, abuse, Chicago style politics, mediocre school system, apathy to the point the same candidates run year after year? It won't happen.
The money trail in donations clearly shows the bidding to be done for the Atrium and AK Steel. I'm sorry it took you many years to be ashamed of middletown, i was ashamed and disgusted with my decision in 1989 when relocated with P & G. The absolute worse decision I ever made. Middletown will never rebound in the housing market, nor will the city, council, nor school board ever change. I waited my 20 years. Its a city of regression, not progression. ------------- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. - Will Rogers |
Posted By: Gary Barge
Date Posted: Oct 23 2009 at 1:05pm
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Folks,
Hasn't anybody figured out what is going on in the city? Our founding fathers lay in the cemetary and are being ripped apart by the foolishness of a power struggle. I find this despicable. This is in the ward I am running for and I can GUARANTEE that if this was being done on my watch as 1st Ward representative heads would have rolled. If our city administration is doing this to spite any organization or group or individuals the mayior should take the position and correct this problem ASAP. If any of the allegations in any of these posts are true and factual then there should be a house cleaning. This is merely an act from what I can see as total disrespect and foolish decision making for the founders of our city.
Gary Barge
1st Ward Candidate
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Posted By: warmandfuzzy
Date Posted: Oct 23 2009 at 1:20pm
| Ms. Moon, your work on the cemetery is to be commended, but reading your posts, I'm not clear about something. WHO exactly paid for the plants that were removed? Were these plants paid for out of your personal funds - the Middletown Cemetery Committee funds - or did the monies come from another source? Thanks |
Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Oct 23 2009 at 4:02pm
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warmandfuzzy
The plants that were removed were paid for by the Middletown Cemetery Committee or the plants were donated by family members of Middletown Cemetery. I believe a few of the plants were paid for with funds from the Middletown Community Foundation.
None of the plants and shrubs that were removed were paid for by City Funds. |
Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Oct 23 2009 at 4:32pm
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Gary
The Middletown Cemetery Committee hopes and prays you get elected.
We could sure use a friend to stop this madness. The Doty Family Plot was a weed patch in 2004 when I walked into it. I started work on the Doty Rose Garden in 2006 while I was digging and turning the soil I found the small footstone of Daniel Doty about 18" down that had been buried for many years. This area is now filled with 7 red double knock out rose bushes and 6 big white peony bushes. They are all in bloom on Memorial Day and put on beauitful show for the families. These roses were paid for by a grant from the Middletown Community Foundation and the hostas and peonies were a donation from Marjorie Root Anderson The 10 hostas that were planted in the front of this bed are now missing I sent Randy a copy of this photo to post for me. |
Posted By: accuro
Date Posted: Oct 23 2009 at 5:00pm
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Ms. Moon- can you provide an update on what your legal action(s) have been associated with the removal of the plants, compensatory damages I am referencing, and have you filed cliams for damages in Butler Cty Court? Also, could you share your attorney's name just out of curiosity. You may have a claim under retaliation in violation of public policy associated with your efforts and if the city knew these plants were there for 3-5 years, did nothing, and suddenly removed them, its undoubtedly a retaliation act. Ironic the stay for the hearing was associated with the city stating it was holding training on non discrimination and harrassment in the work place while causing you emotional distress. Someday when I leave Middletown, I'll post all the horror stories I'm aware by the 'beat down' city tactics, as well as the 'favors' for the 'insiders' club.
If it will make you feel any better, and I know it won't, just drive on Briehel and see the crumbling curbs as well as all over the city. If the city won't maintain its own infrastructure for the living, its a given they surely don't care nor respect the deceased. ------------- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. - Will Rogers |
Posted By: da120757
Date Posted: Oct 23 2009 at 9:54pm
| yep just came from Cemetery Gates are Locked!! Wonder if they will open it tomorrow and sunday? |
Posted By: wasteful
Date Posted: Oct 23 2009 at 10:42pm
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da that would entail OT and possibly make a few citizens happy. Can't have that. Hate to be the employee that has to run around every day at 8 am and 3 pm to lock it up.
It is like children having the TV taken away from them. City has hit a new low.
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Posted By: Gary Barge
Date Posted: Oct 24 2009 at 2:18pm
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Vivian
I hope and pray that the citizens of Middletown elect all new council members and start fresh from ground zero. I am still beside myself over the cemetary issue. Don't be fooled. I have been watching every move that our administration has been making over this issue. I can guarantee you if I were your representative at this time heads would have rolled. Unfortunately I am still just a "usual suspect" as they like to call concerned citizens. I am on a very tight budget this year for campaigning so I am trying to get out the vote anyway possible. Let the cemetary commission know they have my full support. I know how it feels after 6 years working on the canal I think that we finally have come to common ground and they agreed at the last council meeting to move the discharge downstream to eliminate the nusiance. If elected in Nov 3 I will work just as hard on all the issues that has brought our city to the brink of destruction. Thanks for your vote of confidence and the cemetary committee.
Gary Barge
1st Ward Candidate
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Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Oct 25 2009 at 7:41am
| Just to update everyone...I still have not heard who ordered the removal of the plants or where the plants were moved too. Maybe they are now located in City workers yards. |
Posted By: 409
Date Posted: Oct 25 2009 at 11:30am
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Passed the cemetery at 11:00 this morning.
Gates are locked!!!
This is pathetic.
I suppose a saturday burial would be out of the question, assuming they were also locked yesterday.
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Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Oct 25 2009 at 11:59am
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Well you wait until one of the families drives all the way to Ohio and can't visit the cemetery and call me. I WILL BE GIVING OUT COUNCIL MEMEBERS HOME PHONE NUMBERS FOR THEM TO CALL...and they will be very very angry when they call.
Maybe they should call Hamilton and find out how they open and close their cemeteries? |
Posted By: Hermes
Date Posted: Oct 25 2009 at 2:32pm
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409 brings up an interesting question...is the city still allowing burials in Pioneer ? Are there plots still available ? Who has the key to the gate ? Police ? Funeral homes ? City employee ?
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Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Oct 25 2009 at 4:05pm
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Yes, we are still doing burials at No plots are not for sell. You must now own a plot to be buied at this cemetery. Because of sloppy record keeping by the City over the years we do not know if there are available lots. I'm still working on proving just who and where people are buried in this cemetery. For the past five years I have been pulling all the death certificates and obituaries of those buried here to help prove these facts. I believe the Public Works Dept has the keys to this cemetery. |
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Date Posted: May 28 2010 at 12:06pm
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Date Posted: Aug 31 2010 at 10:15pm
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Date Posted: Oct 13 2010 at 10:31pm
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