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Ms. Judy's recent editorial

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Topic: Ms. Judy's recent editorial
Posted By: Mike_Presta
Subject: Ms. Judy's recent editorial
Date Posted: Apr 26 2009 at 2:13am

On April 22, our City Manager penned a guest editorial for The Middletown Journal. The very first sentence of this informative piece read as follows:

Moving Middletown forward is a communitywide goal.”

Perhaps it was just a coincidence. It could have been a Freudian-like slip. It may have been a subtle reference to the CIC with the similar name. It probably was just a phrase that she chose to use.

BUT, (there’s always a “but”, isn’t there?), I, for one, find it interesting how frequently these three words: “Moving Middletown Forward”, keep popping up in the speech and writings of those who keep saying that no group by that name exists!!!

And now that I think about it, all the things outlined in that flyer headed “Moving Middletown Forward” were “communitywide goals”!



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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012



Replies:
Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Apr 26 2009 at 10:20am
Mike- I'm sure Ms. Gilleland meant to say Middletown Moving Forward, not the taboo/blacklisted, yet painfully similar- "Moving Middletown Forward"! Those inquisitive, pesky rascals in city government like to review our posts here and I'm sure that we just confused her (them) with our incessant "rantings" about the similarity in names. Now, gosh darn it, we've gone and confused those faithful executors of the public's business- those sultans of saavy. WE are the problem here. WE controlled this confusing name topic. WE are responsible for their mishaps in name usage. WE are the problem to these 's. Why- shame on us!!! We probably need to apologize.


Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Apr 26 2009 at 12:22pm

Yes sir Mike...this is all YOUR fault. Yep you and your WORD GAMES have now confused the City Manager. Shame on you!  
Well Mike I’m one up on you this time…I have confused both Ms Judy Gilleland and Mr. Les Landen. She said she found ORC 4767.06 a bit vague and wanted me to explain it to them. 
Do you think I should suggest they make a long distance phone call? Mike, how much would that cost? After all we do need to watch the budget. I bet them boys up in Columbus would be happy to explain it to them. Big%20smile Wink



Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Apr 26 2009 at 6:32pm
Speaking of "Moving Middletown Forward", where is my friend Mr. Alien???
 
He assured us that he can clear all this up, and he last visited on April 24, but he has not supplied us with the facts necessary to discern exactly who or what this group is, and how they differ from the CIC.


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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012


Posted By: Perplexed
Date Posted: Apr 26 2009 at 7:41pm
Rumor has it that the ALIEN was abducted by the Romulans from Alpha Centauri universe last night.  Reportedly, the ALIEN is now headed for parts unknown on a weird looking UFO traveling at warp speed!


Posted By: Perplexed
Date Posted: Apr 30 2009 at 12:42pm

Middletown part of metro area named Worst Polluted Cities - Say it 'aint so Judy??

 
By Jessica Heffner
Staff Writer
Updated 9:42 AM Thursday, April 30, 2009

MIDDLETOWN — Forbes strikes again against the city of Middletown, including it among a metro area dubbed one of the worst metro areas in America for unhealthy levels of year-round particle pollution and ozone pollution

Middletown is just part of the metro area, which stretches to Cincinnati and includes Wilmington and parts of Indiana and northern Kentucky.

The metro area ranked eighth on the list for unhealthy levels of year-round particle pollution and fifteenth for ozone pollution, according to the Forbes list which was compiled using a new air study by the American Lung Association.

The year-round particle counts reflect the amount of tiny solid and liquid particles in the air, most often emitted from diesel-powered vehicles, steel mills and coal-fired power plants, according to the study.

Numbers from the American Lung Association show the following about the Cincinnati-Middletown-Wilmington, Ohio-Ky.-Ind. metro area:

• Total Population: 2,176,749

• Pediatric Asthma: 49,837

• Adult Asthma: 144,472

• Chronic Bronchitis: 55,519

• Emphysema: 27,209

• CV Disease: 586,626

• Diabetes: 125,943

Contact this reporter at (513) 705-2843 or jheffner@coxohio.com.



Posted By: Pacman
Date Posted: Apr 30 2009 at 1:24pm
Quick where is Mort & Ashworth? 

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When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

Thomas Jefferson


Posted By: Vivian Moon
Date Posted: Apr 30 2009 at 2:18pm
Ahhh Pacman...That was a GREAT one liner. LOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL


Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Apr 30 2009 at 3:09pm
Middletown is 5% of the population of the defined area. There are hundreds of diesel belching trucks up and down I-75 everyday. AK has cleaned up it's act, using stack scrubbers, since the 60's when it spewed orange iron oxide all over everything in town. Most of the industry that once was, ain't no more in town. The nearest coal firing power plant is where around here? The area is heavily dependant on the jet stream for clearing out the pollution. It ain't gonna move out of here on calm hot summer days. Shared pollution. Alot of situations that are out of our control. Forbes must like using the Middletown name when it comes to reporting on controversial topics such as dying and polluted cities. This is an industrial area of the state and growth produces pollution. We're not set up for clean living environments like Tucson Arizona(which, by the way has much fewer good paying jobs than here due in part to clean air regulations). Tucson also has much cleaner air because their weather isn't as controlled by the jet stream as ours. It's the Midwest and goes with the territory. Pardon us Forbes for attempting to prosper by allowing growth which may create some negatives along the way.


Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: Apr 30 2009 at 5:35pm
Originally posted by Pacman Pacman wrote:

Quick where is Mort & Ashworth? 
Kind of difficult to "paint" the AIR, Pac!!! LOL

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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012


Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: Apr 30 2009 at 6:49pm
I dunno, Mike
AK has been doing it 4ever


Posted By: Pacman
Date Posted: Apr 30 2009 at 7:44pm
Vet when people look for an area to settle in they don't check wind current's, etc.  What they do do is read articles like these and cross the city off their list.  So reasoning as to why the air quality is poor in this area is immaterial to most people, even if it can be rationalized.

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When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

Thomas Jefferson


Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Apr 30 2009 at 8:17pm
Point well taken Pacman. Just trying to address the Forbes pollution bashing of the area and the reasons for it rather than addressing the motivations of why people would be inclined to locate elsewhere because of it.


Posted By: Perplexed
Date Posted: Apr 30 2009 at 8:36pm
CITY MANAGER OFFERS URBAN RENEWAL CONCEPT FOR MIDDLETOWN?
CONTROVERSIAL DEMOLITION PROGRAM & POPULATION SHRINKING SOLUTIONS?
WE ARE NOT FLINT, MICHIGAN JUDY?
 
"Planetizen" - In this new column, award-winning journalist and author Roberta Brandes Gratz reports on urban development crises around the country and the opportunities they present for positive action.
 
"Demolition as a planning tool is back in vogue.  Not since the discredited postwar urban renewal policies of the 1970s have political leaders embraced so wholeheartedly the idea of bulldozing vast tracks of vacant residential structures—and consequently, demolishing existing urban fabric, undermining local initiative, derailing organic regeneration, and displacing longtime residents and local businesses.  When no productive policy exists, demolition is the easiest way to look like the problem is being addressed.  The vacant building syndrome is simply planning by default.

This state of affairs comes at just the time when many older, deteriorated neighborhoods offer the best opportunity for urban regeneration and the best resource for addressing the national affordable housing crisis.  This is not the 1970s, when so many cities hit bottom and the urban exodus was in full swing.  The tide has clearly turned.  Cities are increasingly enjoying a renewed popularity among middle- and upper-income groups.  Real estate values in historic neighborhoods are accelerating beyond property owners’ wildest dreams.  Artists and other members of the “creative class” are seeking out abandoned or underused industrial neighborhoods. People who can afford to do so are moving into less car-dependent neighborhoods, meaning the car-free life is beginning to replace the suburban dream of the 1950s through the ‘80s.  The opportunity for people with limited income to seek the same urban lifestyle, however, disappears when low-income neighborhoods are bulldozed.

Yet demolition of vacant structures is widespread.  Philadelphia exhibits the problem in its most severe form, with nearly 60,000 vacant parcels (the highest per capita in the country).  Small investments have been made in reclamation efforts, but the bulk of budgeted money is going for further demolition.  Last fall, the city of Buffalo, New York, said it planned to tear down a record number of vacant buildings in the 2006 fiscal year, around 1,000 deteriorated properties, nearly three times higher than the average number of annual demolitions since 2002."

I SAY, AGGRESSIVELY MARKET MIDDLETOWN AS A LOWER-COST HOME OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY ZONE.  THE NEWLY EXPANDED DOWN PAYMENT/CLOSING COST ASSISTANCE PROGRAM PLUS THE AVAILABILITY OF CREATIVE MINOR HOME REPAIR FINANCING HAS ALREADY ENTICED OVER 70 WORKING FAMILIES TO PURCHASE HOMES HERE.  MOST OF THE ACTIVITY HAS OCCURRED IN WARDS 3 AND 4 TO DATE.  HOWEVER, MULTIPLE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES ARE AVAILABLE AND WAITING IN WARD 1 (AND YES) WARD 2.


Posted By: Perplexed
Date Posted: May 01 2009 at 7:25am
SUBJECT:  Living Cities - Mixed Housing Initiatives Around the U.S. (Thanks Paul Nagy)
 
http://alexandriava.gov/uploadedFiles/planning/info/braddock/mixed-income_housing_initiatives.pdf - http://alexandriava.gov/uploadedFiles/planning/info/braddock/mixed-income_housing_initiatives.pdf
 
Judy -
 
While the HOPE VI Program has limited annual HUD funds allocated, there are other readily available means to revitalize once blighted neighborhoods using other sources of capital and creative, market-based private/public partnerships!  That's exactly what I tried to establish here through a close, mutually respectful relationship with real estate professionals, target area residents, mortgage bankers and city staff.  Our Middletown Home Ownership Partnership was predicated upon a bottom-up approach rather than City Hall knows best.  Consider what I am saying Judy.  You might find some merit in this approach rather than major land clearance activities.
 
Some day I would welcome providing you with a briefing on Oklahoma City's $100 million "Alliance Community" affordable housing initiative too!
 
Nelson Self
CD Administrator (RESIGNED??)


Posted By: Pacman
Date Posted: May 01 2009 at 9:02am
Perplexed define for those of us not in the business, "AGGRESSIVELY MARKET MIDDLETOWN AS A LOWER-COST HOME OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY ZONE."


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When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

Thomas Jefferson


Posted By: Perplexed
Date Posted: May 05 2009 at 10:58pm

http://www.middletownjournal.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/ohiopolitics/entries/2009/05/05/whistleblower_bill_gets_senate.html - “Whistleblower” bill gets Senate OK

By http://www.middletownjournal.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/ohiopolitics/entries/2009/05/05/whistleblower_bill_gets_senate.html#postcomment - William Hershey | Tuesday, May 5, 2009, 03:49 PM

The Ohio Senate has approved legislation aimed at making it easier for “whistleblowers” to expose fraud in government.

The vote was 32-0 on http://www.legislature.state.oh.us/analysis.cfm?ID=128_SB_7&ACT=As%20Passed%20by%20Senate&hf=analyses128/s0007-rs-128.htm - Senate Bill 7 on Tuesday, May 5.

It requires State Auditor Mary Taylor to set up a fraud-reporting system for residents and public employees to anonymously report fraud and misuse of public funds. It also extends whistleblower protections against retaliatory firings or other disciplinary action taken against state employees who report the fraud.

Taylor also ready has a fraud reporting system including a hotline - 1-866-FRAUD-OH - but the new legislation would strengthen the system by putting it into law, her office said in a press release.

“This important legislation will enhance our efforts to hold state and local government accountable for how it spends tax dollars,” Taylor said in a press release.

The bill now goes to the House.



Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: May 06 2009 at 7:14am
Would it be a good idea to call this fraud hotline armed with various info from this site and report it to the state auditor at this time? Would that be enough to bring some state people to Middletown to examine the finances/operation of this city's government?


Posted By: Perplexed
Date Posted: May 06 2009 at 7:41am
The powers to be are concealing a great deal of very damaging information relative to mismanagement, waste of Federal funds, conflict of interest, etc.  And, the media continues to turn its' back on reporting what they know to be the truth.
 
Word has it from some lower level Community Revitalization Department staff that the "newcomer" is furiously assessing the seriousness of the situation for senior staff.  Huge quantities of 'Spic and Span' are needed to cleanse that mess!


Posted By: Pacman
Date Posted: May 06 2009 at 8:33am

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When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

Thomas Jefferson


Posted By: Perplexed
Date Posted: May 06 2009 at 9:45am
As one of my favorite media personalities Billy Cunningham would say, "Pacman, you are a great American!"


Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: May 07 2009 at 6:54am
Perplexed- You have mentioned Cunningham several times as to him being one of your favorites. I have given some thought to Cunningham, after listening to some of his ideas on many topics over the years. He is about my age. He grew up in Deer Park, a blue-collar community. I grew up here in Middletown, a blue-collar community. He went to Xavier and was in ROTC marching and playing soldier back in the 60's. I went to the first class at MUM in 1966, leaving after a year and a half to enlist in the service to "beat the draft" and "stay out of Vietnam". Yea right! We both lived through the turbulent 60's while in high school and post high school years. We both witnessed the same events during that time. The point I'm trying to make is- it is amazing how two people, from similar "working class" backgrounds, experiencing the same events and atmosphere back then , can, 40 some years later, turn out to be polar opposites as to politics, beliefs, etc. What is also amazing is that some of the radical, marching, building burning, I hate government/ Big Brother people of the 60's joined the "establishment" and are now part of what they use to hate as they run companies, are in politics and are stalwart supporters of the system. Amazing to me. Just some thoughts since you mentioned Cunningham.


Posted By: Perplexed
Date Posted: May 07 2009 at 7:28am
Thanks for the information.  I've lived in Ohio about 2.5 years and was unaware of this.  Thanks once again Viet Vet.


Posted By: Perplexed
Date Posted: May 07 2009 at 2:59pm
MORE CITY OF MIDDLETOWN UNEXPLAINED HUD-FUNDED SHENANIGANS???
 
Would somebody with authority please examine the very questionable expenditure of a sizable amount of HUD funds at 810 Eighth Street?
 
A long-term employee of the Community Revitalization Department provided disturbing information to the former CD Administrator (RESIGNED??) and the now-defunct HUD Consolidated Planning Committee last May and June.  It seems that HUD funds were spent on the major rehabilitation of this property.  And, more disturbing, an equally sizable amount of HUD funds were spent to pay off private personal debt.
 
This employee also noted that at least four or five other previous Housing Rehabilitation Program beneficiaries had similar private personal debt paid off with HUD funds.  The names of present and past City employees on the authorization forms is telling.
 
I wonder if the local print media or Queen Judy will expose this little indiscretion??
 
By the way, as of last fall a local real estate attorney was hired by the City to pursue foreclosure.  It also seems that this property was over $8,000 in arrears on property taxes.


Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: May 08 2009 at 6:24am
More reasons for a city audit of all programs (using an independent auditor, not the hometown boys the city always uses). Time to get the state people involved in the operation of this town, perhaps????


Posted By: Perplexed
Date Posted: May 08 2009 at 6:48am
Thanks, Viet Vet.  At times this has been a very difficult and lonely process to expose the sordid truth about waste of funds, mismanagement, conflict of interest and a first-rate cover-up of HUD funds by senior City staff.  I am hopeful that all of this mess will reach the light of day soon.  Thanks again, Viet Vet.  And, thanks for your service to our country. ClapClapClap


Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: May 08 2009 at 12:07pm
Perplexed- I seem to remember an agenda item for one of the many Council/City Manager meetings that mentioned that one item would be the discussion of a certain E-Mailer (or blogger). This particular E-Mailer or blogger has apparently said something or has divulged something that has attracted their attention enough for them to discuss the situation. Can't remember where I read this (Council meeting notes perhaps??) but thought it was unusual to read an agenda item like that. Just a FYI thing to mention for everyone here and those that are E-Mailing city hall. Just curious as to what this is all about. As to the HUD subject.   Is there a time and a place where one would be wise to divulge the info. on this site to the state authorities or to HUD? Could the city leaders be worried about this and this is the item of discussion?


Posted By: Perplexed
Date Posted: May 08 2009 at 12:44pm
Viet Vet -
 
You bet that the senior level bureaucrats and three City Council members are worried.  Too many people know about the waste of HUD funds, mismanagement and conflict of interest.  They dearly wish that the CD Administrator (RESIGNED??) would move away from here and shut his mouth.
 
Too bad that they didn't think of that when they assigned an unqualified hit-woman last July to sentence Mr. Self to occupational Siberia.  Any day now he expects some form of reprisal from One Donham Plaza.  After all, they now have in-house legal experts at work reviewing many issues.
 
The truth will set the captives free!


Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: May 08 2009 at 2:35pm
If I were on Council, I would make it a point to learn the inner workings of this city government including all the hidden agendas that I wouldn't be privy to as a private citizen as well as all the little personalities in the city building from the city manager to each department director. I would then take this information and apply it to my goal of reaching a consensus with other council members(who would also be of the new breed) that the ones deemed as harmful to the city would be "relieved of their duties" asap. As soon as the deadwood problem children currently running this city are purged from the system, we could then start running this city with some common sense for the benefit of the people, letting the people know what we're doing and why and asking for input along the way. There would be no secrets. and oh yea------ you could actually come to a Council meeting and speak your piece and receive some feedback right on the spot. None of this secrecy crap.


Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: May 08 2009 at 4:17pm

Pretty much right on the money, Mr.Vet.

It is long past time for Council and Admin to open the doors, lay the finances on the table and begin honest two-sided discourse with the citizens. If there has been HUD/CDBG fund mis-management,illegal usage or fraud, it needs to be brought forward. The closed door "Committee" policy has been a disaster from public relations,acoomplishment, legal and trust angles. Pretty much from every angle.
 
Citizen confidence and trust in our municipal government is at an all-time low, even below the televised brawling days. At least it was all put in the open back then. Of course, the Chamber, MMF,AK and the Atrium still massage Admin egos, however few of those entities carry many votes come November. At this time, I would rate citizens' approval rating towards Council and particularly Admin in the 20% positive range.
 
Economic Development has been a joke, especially towards existing local businesses(who have been ignored and treated in a punitive manner). Section 8 glut has destroyed our school system, while also stressing police and emergency personel, also failing to contribute to the tax base,business or employment market. I had very high hopes and expectations for our city manager, however she seems to have moved into the bunker with the others,now planning to strip our city of the health dept.(probably the most useful functional dept. down there) in lieu of the Butler County fiasco, and other mostly citizen-unfriendly service cuts. She is definitely from the Steve Husemann school of city managing.
 
Time to return to the "Conversations with Council" and a REAL open door policy regarding past decisions, current finances, infrastructure concerns, business concerns and a real plan towards our community future. Not ONE Council member hosts discussion forums now. Was that a group decision? If Council members don't want real discussion with the citizens they supposedly represent, they honestly don't belong in public office.
 
The current group of "city leaders--movers and shakers" hasn't led us anywhere but down.
They need to release their death grip on every committee and organization in our city, and realize that they REALLY weren't chosen to lead FOREVER. Their time is up.
 
It's time for a new dawn--a new day.
Confidence in our younger generations and minds, instead of treating them as children forever and just using them for the grunt work(until they have had enough and leave town). Honestly, it is THEIR city now. Put them in charge. Let them learn and develop a new system and communication methods to bring us back as truly one united community where young ideas and change are encouraged. I would expect the results to be extremely rewarding.
 
jmo


Posted By: Mike_Presta
Date Posted: May 08 2009 at 5:23pm
BRAVO, Spiderjohn!!!!Thumbs%20Up Thumbs%20Up

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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012


Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: May 08 2009 at 6:01pm
I second the Bravo from Mike. Nice overview Spider.


Posted By: Impala SS
Date Posted: May 08 2009 at 9:35pm
I third the Bravo from Mike. Tell it like it is Spider never give up. Give them hell.


Posted By: Perplexed
Date Posted: May 08 2009 at 9:55pm

http://www.middletownjournal.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/middletownnews/entries/2009/05/08/check_out_the_tweets_from_midd.html - Check out the tweets from Middletown City Hall and around town  - We can only hope?

By http://www.middletownjournal.com/blogs/content/shared-gen/blogs/dayton/middletownnews/entries/2009/05/08/check_out_the_tweets_from_midd.html#postcomment - Ed Richter | Friday, May 8, 2009, 02:42 PM WackoWacko

There is now another source of info about what’s going on in Middletown, city government and other doings at One Donham Plaza or around town and that’s at www.twitter.com/RichterAtMJ.

These short news nuggets can come at any time, so log in as a follower and keep informed there as well as here on the Middletown News and Issues blog at MiddletownJournal.com or in print in The Middletown Journal.

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Posted By: Perplexed
Date Posted: May 11 2009 at 7:02am
UNOFFICIAL READER OPINION POLL:  "SINK OR SWIM - WHO IS THE NEXT CITY EMPLOYEE TO BE TOSSED UNDER THE ONE DONHAM PLAZA BUS?"
 
1.  Please name an existing City of Middletown mid- to senior-level staff member who will be jettisoned by our all-knowing Supreme Commander?
 
Note:  Only one prediction per response!


Posted By: Pacman
Date Posted: May 11 2009 at 7:14am
Kohler

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When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

Thomas Jefferson


Posted By: Impala SS
Date Posted: May 11 2009 at 7:38am
                             KOHLER    NOW


Posted By: makeadifference
Date Posted: May 11 2009 at 7:48am
I think you are dreaming if you think Kohler would go. 


Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: May 11 2009 at 9:25am
I agree with makeadifference.
Removal of Mr.Kohler would indicate a lot of mis-management, in-effective planning and failure of the Admin closed door policy. Also would result in a total inventory/audit to see the ugly truth as to where we really stand and the $$ has gone.
 
Mr.Kohler needs to be given an opportunity to function with a new small business-friendly, citizen friendly direction given by Council and Admin(and in great documented detail). He is a very talented individual who simply isn't being utilized to the benefit of the entire community.
 
There really aren't that many significant names left to scapegoat.
My wild guess would be that the city manager would be the next to leave.
She has tremendous potential, however she has abandoned her earlier wide open listening  for change approach in favor of a closed door good old boy policy, much to the detriment of everyone. Must be lonely at the top these days.


Posted By: Pacman
Date Posted: May 11 2009 at 9:48am
Well Crap you two busted everyones Dream.Sleepy  Spider your give him another chance ain't gonna work. 
 
"Removal of Mr.Kohler would indicate a lot of mis-management, in-effective planning and failure of the Admin closed door policy. Also would result in a total inventory/audit to see the ugly truth as to where we really stand and the $$ has gone."
 
So lets just carry on as the city has for the last 20-30 years, Hey that makes a whole hell of a lot of sense in my book.Angry
 


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When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

Thomas Jefferson


Posted By: 2000+
Date Posted: May 11 2009 at 10:02am

What is most interesting to note is that Ms. Gilleland buzzes that Mr. sl*gle is her "counselor" - this is "buzz" that I personally heard from the horses mouth (yes, the sl*gle who is near and dear to the good old boy policies).

Another interesting tidbit is that there was work behind the scenes during the city manager "hunt" to permit only those with less than exceptional resumes into the process (with exception to Gilleland) - Gilleland's "resume" was a complete color brochure with fascinating Middletown statistics that appeared to make her look like the best candidate. Everyone was impressed that a "stranger" would put together such a warm and fuzzy fact book on Middletown. She must be one of us!!

With the news that that Gilleland was groomed before even appearing before the haphazard citizens group that advocated her, it appears her knock-out resume was groomed for her as well....
 
True?  Middletown may never know....
 
Judy? Lonely at the top, SJ? I think she relishes the role and isn't lonely at all with all the back-slapping and "atta-boys...er...atta girls" from her peeps.
 
 
 
 


Posted By: spiderjohn
Date Posted: May 11 2009 at 10:30am
Interesting 2000----didn't know about the resume thing.
I thought that it must have been all Husemann, though your story makes sense and fits the local pattern.



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