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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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Posted: Dec 21 2014 at 1:13pm |
HELP! I would like to hear your definition and or thoughts of "Creative Thinkers” as it pertains
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chmoore1
MUSA Resident Joined: Jan 25 2012 Status: Offline Points: 230 |
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Here's one way to boost creative thinking: eliminate Libby Lolli's position. Also, since it seems to have escaped everyone's critical eye on this site, the January "Board Docs" agenda has an item called "Retire/rehire Sam Ison." Vet, acclaro, this should make your head explode. just 1 chmoore.
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VietVet
MUSA Council Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
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No, ch, Lolli has been discussed on this forum. There have been posts involving Lolli, specifically, how she was disliked at Monroe. How she is a "my way or the highway" tyrant type of manager. How she does very little for her money and how many would like to see her go, specifically in the academic world. Ison on a retire/rehire? Wouldn't surprise me as Ison meets the same criteria as the preceding superintendents Middletown has had going back to the Eastridge days thru the Price days and into the Ison regime. He meets the typical criteria of what they would hire here.....a cheerleader for new schools. A levy passer. A "say all the right things to fool the public into thinking the schools are improving" type of person. They all did these things and they all have one thing in common. They all failed miserably to attain any higher level than continuous improvement and they have not been close to the halfway mark on indicators despite all the promises, the levy passages, the new program introductions that were suppose to provide positive changes. They did get their new schools built but it didn't matter as to outcome. The schools system is still in the perverbial toilet. Total waste of money yielding zero results. Nothing has worked under any super administration but there are some who continue to sponsor a last place horse in the race. The schools have been poor performers since the 70's. No head exploding. Just facts. |
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I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over.
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acclaro
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 01 2009 Status: Offline Points: 1878 |
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Creative thinkers require;
1) Use of vouchers throughout Ohio, including fund exchange at attend private schools, including catholic. 2) Use of technology for education, 100% instruction, from best rated teachers in Ohio. District agnostic. Best math teacher teaches math throughout state, advanced placement students stake interactive classes at universities. Think Harvard prof teaching Yale student, etc. 3) Consolidation of resources statewide, infrastructure agnostic. Shared busing, services, maintenance, 4-5 regions in state, eliminate redundancy, provide cost savings benefit to set up a pool to reward outcome based teaching excellence. 4) Eliminate union. State and national. 5) Eliminate brick and mortar costs, put into technology. |
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'An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.' - Winston Churchill
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processor
MUSA Resident Joined: May 07 2013 Status: Offline Points: 151 |
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Critical/Creative thinking is the active, persistent, and careful consideration of a belief or form of knowledge, the grounds that support it, and the conclusions that follow. It involves analyzing and evaluating one’s own thinking and that of others. In the context of college teaching and learning, critical thinking deliberately and actively engages students in:
• Raising vital questions and problems and formulating these clearly and precisely; •Gathering and assessing relevant information, and using abstract ideas to interpret it effectively; •Reaching well-reasoned conclusions and solutions and testing them against relevant criteria and standards; •Openly considering alternative systems of thought; and •Effectively communicating to others the analysis of and proposed solutions to complex challenges. Creative/Critical thinking is the generation of new ideas within or across domains of knowledge, drawing upon or intentionally breaking with established symbolic rules and procedures. It usually involves the behaviors of preparation, incubation, insight, evaluation, elaboration, and communication. In the context of college teaching and learning, creative thinking deliberately and actively engages students in: •Bringing together existing ideas into new configurations; •Developing new properties or possibilities for something that already exists; and •Discovering or imagining something entirely new. How's that for some "edu Speak"? I think that many people in academia miss the point that this type of thinking only comes AFTER a thorough grounding in the basics of reading, writing and arithmetic. Some teachers use it as an excuse for poor test performance. I'm sure you've heard the line, "we don't need good test takers we need students who have creative thinking skills". Well I think that we need both and it starts with a proper grounding in the basics. If the students can't read or write or do basic math how in the heck will they be able to critically think!? |
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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The teachers seemed
to equate High Achievers with Creative Thinkers…Creative Thinker may or may not
get good grades while in school. |
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VietVet
MUSA Council Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
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Based on the definition that processor has provided, there is no indication that this thinking has occurred in the past in the schools, the city building or the Journal, is occuring today, nor will occur in the future. The schools, newspaper and city are too locked into their current mindset to see other alternatives, ideas and opinions.
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I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over.
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spiderjohn
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 01 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2749 |
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Amen processor
Beautiful Though I would imagine that posting on musa would disqualify since admin lumps us all together unfortunately I mentioned to them that we don't all think alike any more than they all think alike--fell on deaf ears--disappointing Best to everyone here throughout the season and beyond |
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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Well
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acclaro
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 01 2009 Status: Offline Points: 1878 |
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Doesn't a school administrator and system have to adopt critical thinking and procedures, let's call it 'best practices' to then advance students into becoming 'critical thinkers'?
At the end of the day, is critical thinking dictated by the instructor thinking outside the box constantly, ergo, using critical thinking approaches, that in turn, create a critical thinker as an outcome. New York has done a magnificent job in using critical thinking approaches with the private sector to drive positive advances in testing and education retention and cognitive capabilities. using integrated, holistic approaches to critical thinking through technology, and the virtual classroom with the best instructors, regardless of district. Isn't Common Core a critical thinking approach? |
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'An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.' - Winston Churchill
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TonyB
MUSA Citizen Joined: Jan 12 2011 Location: Middletown, OH Status: Offline Points: 631 |
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No tax money for religious education. It is a violation of the US Constitution. I'm all for "creative thinkers" and creative thinking but I'll bet that those who support those ideas are in a minority.
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Dean
MUSA Resident Joined: Apr 15 2014 Status: Offline Points: 162 |
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I agree with chmoore1----get rid of Libby Lolliy. A complete waste of money.
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spiderjohn
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 01 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2749 |
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after hearing about it for a year, my wife persuaded me to stop in Loveland to check it out--pretty cool and developing
an old city with old(not really historic) housing and business district on a small waterway with a bike/walking path---sound familiar? visited a young local who works here, but now lives there and has started a small business there--I will go back so--why do we have to caravan locals states away to visit similar municipal attempts when there are so many scattered in our own back yard? |
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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Vivian Moon
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Just wondering
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Please read this from a "creative thinker" with guts.
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Inquiring minds want to know.
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Every morning is the dawn of a new error...
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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Love it....add a few field trips to this list also
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