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VietVet
MUSA Council Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
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Ok, since the decision-making/logic/confusion has been reaching the bottom of the barrel on council, (What else is new?), I thought I'd find another source for watching council meetings that have the same outcome.
If you would like to join me in viewing this council meeting source, please follow this... 1. Dial up Google on the old computer. 2. Punch in You Tube. 3. Punch in Abbott and Costello Who's On First. 4. Enjoy your new source for viewing YOUR Middletown City Council Meeting. Disclaimer: My intent is in no way to discredit Abbott and Costello. After all, how would they know back then that they would be creating a city council duplication in the year 2014? |
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I'm so proud of my hometown and what it has become. Recall 'em all. Let's start over.
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TonyB
MUSA Citizen Joined: Jan 12 2011 Location: Middletown, OH Status: Offline Points: 631 |
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I'm curious to know what kind of development will take place at Weatherwax when the property was gifted to the city with the provision that it remain a "green space". Does the sale of the property negate any agreement the city made in the past? Is there potential for lawsuits against the city and the new owner if they violate those prior agreements? Would defense in court cost the city more funds it cannot afford to spend on extraneous matters?
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over the hill
MUSA Citizen Joined: Oct 19 2012 Location: middletown Status: Offline Points: 952 |
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TonyB: Just add it to the HUGE amount they are already spending to keep Doug and Judy out of jail with the HUD debacle. The longer this drags on the more it is costing the city. I suppose the city has insurance for this so Judy probably hopes this is settled before she retires because then she's on her own.
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acclaro
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 01 2009 Status: Offline Points: 1878 |
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Sadly, I think Dr. Owens at Cincinnati State did miss a golden opportunity for not having the vision or fortitude to bring the culinary center to Middletown and the Manchester, that was Mr. Perry's vision. To be clear, all activities that became the downtown effort were associated with the culinary school, and it could have served as a catalyst for other opportunities and expansion at C State and downtown. Its a shame this never took off.
Like the Iraq war when no chemicals of mass destruction were found, the message at city hall became downtown revitalization, making Middletown into a historic center, or arts center. Having the epicenter of the culinary institute may have done this; without it, it all fell apart. Then the message at Donham, just like the Iraq war, was changed; in Iraq, it was about democracy and freeing people, in Middletown, it shifted from cuisine and the culinary center to downtown revitalization. It had gone so far they couldn't pull back, and what became is a shell of the true vision and plan. It is sadness and disbelief, when evaluating the Cincinnati State deal, the city's property acquisitions, and such, what led to all this was the culinary center which never came. One cannot think the city had this outcome in mind for its buck payback. This was interesting in a Journal post:
The lease on the golf carts is a year
by year lease to have funds appropriated each year by the municipality
(i.e. City Of Middletown) Gov't entites cannot take on debt obligations
greater then one year unless voted on by the public - this was not
approved by the public. |
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'An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.' - Winston Churchill
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FmrMide81
MUSA Resident Joined: Aug 26 2012 Status: Offline Points: 188 |
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Legal, schmeagle-Les decides what is and isn't legal around here!!! The "O" in ORC stands for "Optional"!!!
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over the hill
MUSA Citizen Joined: Oct 19 2012 Location: middletown Status: Offline Points: 952 |
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That is so true Mide81: Whether he's right or wrong that's how it is and all the attorneys on council and former paralegals never bother to quetion what he says.Do the legal eagles turn their brains off at council meetings?
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spiderjohn
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 01 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2749 |
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Think that maybe they will keep 18 holes, and build homes either inside or around the course?
What about the Sonshine building? Was that part of the Manchester deal? acclaro's post about Mr.Thatcher's original concept rings true and makes a lot of sense imo |
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acclaro
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 01 2009 Status: Offline Points: 1878 |
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sj, I think par for the course, or another "Mulligan" for city hall, the third downtown as a matter of fact, as you know, what got downtown started was the train possibilities. Undoubtedly, Mr. Thatcher's vision was the culinary function, with hopes the whole campus might have a major presence.
Donham began the snowball with the shuffle of Cohen and the other entities downtown, and the cash that followed the train, and then on the heels of the Polar Express that never arrived, Strickland defeat, then the fall back was the C State culinary institute. Those two dreams fell by the wayside, but the momentum, initially expense, created a runaway train, initially chasing a train....that never came....and a culinary experience....that never came. I believe you are correct on the reduction from 36 to 18 holes, but suspect that's contingent on turning a profit. The location is close enough to Madison High School that it would do well as a development I assume. |
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'An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.' - Winston Churchill
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ktf1179
MUSA Citizen Joined: Mar 19 2012 Status: Offline Points: 518 |
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What Middletown should do now is Annex the land around Weather Wax. That way if the owner does decide to put up new homes, all that tax money will come into Middletown.
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Voleye
MUSA Immigrant Joined: May 09 2009 Status: Offline Points: 37 |
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There is no way in hell the township will allow that to happen. The people that live out here live out here for a reason, One of those reasons is its NOT MIDDLETOWN. We have excellent schools, decent police and fire protection and levies to support them.
There are many out in the township that will "line the bridge" and never allow Middletown to annex us. |
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Iron Man
MUSA Resident Joined: Sep 25 2013 Status: Offline Points: 112 |
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You'll be devoured by Middletown, and you're going to like it. We figure we can fit about 30 Section 8 homes between your house and your neighbors. |
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spiderjohn
Prominent MUSA Citizen Joined: Jul 01 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2749 |
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a gold mine just across the bridge imo
wish that I would have bought property there years ago--the current buildings are demo material not sure water/utilities are are there yet small market there would serve so many, and keep them from crossing bridge, or heading to Trenton/Excello Kroger the future Oasis, + the Elk Creek Tavern building/corner jmo |
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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Gentlemen |
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Vivian Moon
MUSA Council Joined: May 16 2008 Location: Middletown, Ohi Status: Offline Points: 4187 |
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Also at last nights council meeting, Mr. Adkins gave an update on the Manchester Inn Deal. He stated that Mr. Grau is still working on the feasibility study that is due to be completed later this month to determine the best use for the Manchester Inn.
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swohio75
MUSA Citizen Joined: Jun 13 2008 Status: Offline Points: 820 |
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Isn't this the originally agreed to schedule? |
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