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rngrmed ![]() MUSA Citizen ![]() Joined: May 06 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 309 |
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LOL..there is a house of ill repute right across the street from our dear mayor. You can sit watch cars come and go all day. The woman houses hookers and lets the do their "work" there...not to mention his proximity to the 18th street projects and all the problems that go on there...
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Smartman ![]() MUSA Citizen ![]() Joined: Jun 14 2008 Status: Offline Points: 299 |
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The Sorg should be perserved. It is an important part of our history. Just like the theatre should be taken out of the hands of that riduclous music store. The theatre carries so much history itself. But what is it used for?? Rastling events!!! ( Thats wrestling to you educated folks). Many do not know that there was a tunnel that ran from the mansion to that theatre. Its probably gone.
The Armco Band perfomed there on a regular basis. Is that not part of our history? They put M-town on the map. The first broadcasts of 700 WLW took place there. They were the reason John Phillip Sousa came to town and recruited Frank Simon.
There is a 3rd floor balcony in the theatre with bench seats. In the day as they were called, those were the colored seats! The theatre is a wonderful old hall that if restored could add much to the so called arts district along with the home itself. Its our history y'all and we need to perserve what little we have left.
Granted some of the old building downtown are beyond repair. These 2 are part of our heritage. lmo
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Hermes ![]() Prominent MUSA Citizen ![]() ![]() Joined: May 19 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 1637 |
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I don't get our so called historical society. Isn't preservation part of their duty ? Doesn't historical societies fight for preservation ?
Where are they when it comes to the cemetery and the Sorg house ? Correct me if I am wrong.
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No more democrats no more republicans,vote Constitution Party !!
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Bill ![]() MUSA Citizen ![]() Joined: Nov 04 2009 Status: Offline Points: 710 |
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Smartman, who should "preserve" it? I don't want to pay for it. Who the h*ll would go there anyway?
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Smartman ![]() MUSA Citizen ![]() Joined: Jun 14 2008 Status: Offline Points: 299 |
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Bill I don't expect you to go there nor pay for it. It would need to be people that have appreciation of the arts and historical places. There are grants out there to preserve these kind of places.
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Talking Heads ![]() MUSA Immigrant ![]() ![]() Joined: Aug 18 2010 Status: Offline Points: 27 |
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Rhodes, sounds like you are "in the know" and have a real beef with the owners/former owners. From what I understand, Section 8 was not a part of the Sorg property (that could be verified by CONSOC) and the drug dealing was part of a sting operation and taken care of, according to the police. I seriously doubt there was any "milking" going on...do you have any idea how much it costs to run a property such as that? You might take a lesson in economics before you accuse people. Seems Smartman understands this better than most.
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VietVet ![]() MUSA Council ![]() ![]() Joined: May 15 2008 Status: Offline Points: 7008 |
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Smartman- you mentioned that to pay for this, there would "need to be people that have an appreciation for the arts and historical places". A few weeks ago, I saw a whole council chamber full of people who spoke in support of the arts when they testified how wonderful the new Verdin Arts Center is going to be and how "enriching" the arts would be good for Middletown. People from out of town threw in their support as well. Where are those people now and where is there support to maintain this artzy/historical places subject we are discussing here? I'm guessing that it was easy to get up and tell the world how they supported the arts when it was no risk to them financially and taxpayer money would be at risk, but if they need to commit their own resources to the arts, we don't hear a peep out of them, do we? Me thinks they talk out both sides of their mouths.
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spiderjohn ![]() Prominent MUSA Citizen ![]() ![]() Joined: Jul 01 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2749 |
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Spot on, Vet(and I love it when you quote Bob Dylan.
The downtown enablers need more of the Pendleton-type deals to prop up the property investments in the area. Actually a little property maintenence and out-door cleaning of their frontage would help considerably.
Embarrassing how filthy the building exteriors have become, while owned by many of the out-spoken "stakeholders" in the area. The "new" store fronts are already showing age and neglect, despite many of the buildings not having a tenant since the improvements(a real waste of taxpayer $$).
Sorg Theater complex/Sorg Mansion--turn one of them into a major "haunted house" complex.
Both are far too expensive for anyone to re-hab realistically.
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TudorBrown ![]() MUSA Citizen ![]() ![]() Joined: Aug 24 2009 Location: Highlands D. Status: Offline Points: 265 |
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angelababy ![]() MUSA Resident ![]() Joined: Aug 04 2010 Status: Offline Points: 103 |
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If they buy this then they had damn well better fix up the cemetery.
Right is right and wrong is wrong. It is wrong to spend that kind of
money and not fix up the cemetery.
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Lostdafire ![]() MUSA Immigrant ![]() Joined: Sep 27 2010 Status: Offline Points: 11 |
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I drove by the Sorg Mansion today and there was a chain across the entrance at the 2nd and Main entrance with a do not enter, private property sign. A similar sign was on the fence further south on S. Main St.
The complex appeared empty. I was surprised by this and returned to this thread to check on any updates. |
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swohio75 ![]() MUSA Citizen ![]() Joined: Jun 13 2008 Status: Offline Points: 820 |
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It's been that way for several months now.
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viper771 ![]() MUSA Resident ![]() Joined: Mar 16 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 221 |
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Some was in there the other day either working on the Sorg and Guest house, or just taking a look at what needed to be done.
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swohio75 ![]() MUSA Citizen ![]() Joined: Jun 13 2008 Status: Offline Points: 820 |
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I understand there was a gas leak there.
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viper771 ![]() MUSA Resident ![]() Joined: Mar 16 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 221 |
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It doesn't surprise me. From what my wife saw (she drove by and the curtains in the guest house were tied up) she could see the vast amount of water damage on the walls from leaks (reminds me of our house). The plumber who redid our main water line was saying they had some big plumbing leak in the basement of the main house, but it took a week to find where it was. Something about it being within the actual foundation and they had a hell of a time getting to it.
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Rhodes ![]() MUSA Resident ![]() Joined: Jun 18 2010 Status: Offline Points: 209 |
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Did the Sorg Mansion have the leak that took a week to find? Did it flood the basement? I saw about 2 or 3 work trucks and maybe a work van there a couple weeks ago. A lot of traffic at the time so I couldn't see what all was going on.
Did anyone find out if this is sold or not? I have to say that it does look a little abandoned these days, but looks better without all the junker cars in the parking lot when all the apartments used to be rented. |
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swohio75 ![]() MUSA Citizen ![]() Joined: Jun 13 2008 Status: Offline Points: 820 |
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It's my understanding the Opera House had a leak that was difficult to find.
I am referring to a gas leak, not water leak. Although I do understand there are issues with the carriage house.
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viper771 ![]() MUSA Resident ![]() Joined: Mar 16 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 221 |
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I didn't know anything about a gas leak, but it doesn't surprise me. I think the main house still has working gas lights. Even the carriage house still has the old equipment from when it was a mini power plant.
I hope it is all fixed up though. If I had the money I would do it. But it does look better without the crappy cars out there.
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swohio75 ![]() MUSA Citizen ![]() Joined: Jun 13 2008 Status: Offline Points: 820 |
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The pipes that burst were in the carriage house.
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viper771 ![]() MUSA Resident ![]() Joined: Mar 16 2009 Location: Middletown Status: Offline Points: 221 |
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