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Analytical
MUSA Citizen Joined: Nov 19 2015 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 562 |
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Posted: May 06 2018 at 2:28pm |
Spiderjohn -
Thanks again for providing more clarification about the Duncan Oil and multiple other failed "FORMER DOWNTOWN" real estate deals of the Gilleland/Adkins era. So much city staff time and money spent. So little accomplished. It's tempting to submit a chronology of the City of Middletown's many failures to the International City Manager's Association (ICMA) on "HOW NOT TO SUCCEED IN REVITALIZING DOWNTOWN AREAS AND OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS". Maybe the same should be sent to Forbes Magazine as a follow-up to their original inclusion of Middletown as one of "America's Fastest Dying Cities"? At least Judy Gilleland was truthful in telling me in February 2008 hat she had little past experience with housing and community development matters. As for Doug Adkins, he would bring a "I KNOW WHAT"S BEST PROSECUTING ATTORNEY'S APPROACH" in devastating Ward 2 and perpetuating the former downtown's malaise despite the infusion of millions in city funds and staff time. The question remains, is Middletown appreciably better following nine plus years of the Gilleland/Adkins regime? In Doug Adkins case, he is known for famously stating at a city council meeting "GIVE ME THE POWER AND I'LL MAKE THINGS HAPPEN"! Sadly, was he ever so wrong! |
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spiderjohn
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Old news, analytical—the Duncan thing was all hype imo. Duncan Oil was in the business of selling gasoline—not operating retail business. The land deals involved + the negotiating property owners were all drama over-valuations. Duncan didn’t do well on the deal either. Dud properties for big $$
Don’t see how they would fit it in on the 1st/Central point, since ingress/egress approximate to active railroad seemed dicey even back at the time Train stop honestly didn’t make sense either imo. Middietown people aren’t leaving town-outsiders had no real reason to make the trip lol As much as I have ragged on the downtown black hole, it seems to be the only area showing any social life upside. Sorg could use your support at least by attending the events. Either people show up or Places disappear. As places disappear., consumers relocate. Where is the next most likely area that could raise the bar for local quality? It would help if everyone would simply pitch in to make it all better—we all know the issues—now we act on improving |
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Analytical
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spiderjohn
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Still we need to suck it up and move on. Constantly beating up everyone over the past gets depressing after it has been repeated to the nth degree. The theater issue looks like deja vu all over again though. I'm sure the best is yet to come--could be a messy problematic demo--leading to??
Maybe this site could be rejuvenated by accenting the positives and possible solutions? |
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MattR
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Forget the past has moved from forgetting the Middletown of the 50's and 60's to forgetting what happened last week. When moving forward requires blinders, rose colored glasses and a clothes pin for your nose it does not bode well.
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Analytical
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Spiderjohn -
Maybe concerned city taxpayers need to read and re-read Eddie Richter's occasional "feel good" community development newspaper articles more often? Matt R - I continue to wish you well in your personal pursuit of fairness and good government. Your recent observations about some questionable city actions over the past 18 months are appreciated.
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MattR
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And I do try to stay positive; I found an appropriate use for Middletown water, I installed a bidet.
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spiderjohn
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Matt and Nelson—I appreciate the info that both of you provide, and understand your demeanor towards admin if you feel wrongfully treated/removed from employment.
However—I don’t live in the 50s and 60s though I grew up here then. I have worked in and owned businesses in every part of town. I pretty much know every street and a lot of families. I have learned a lot from the past—the city’s past and my past. I take it from my experiences and try to focus on what might work going forward, because I don’t see how you can think progressively any other way. I still live here. I still care and like to be involved with people and organizations that I see as making a positive difference. I have never claimed to be any type of role model or influence. Just another local trying to be the best person that I can be going forward. When dealing with mistakes, bad decisions and bad luck, you simply identify what went wrong then do whatever necessary to correct the situation. The blame game needs to be very brief if at all. No one is more bothered by failure than those responsible. Just work together to change things for the better ASAP. I don’t see any other way... |
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Analytical
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Fair enough Spiderjohn. I'll attempt to muster ample patience in stepping back from commenting about city housing and community development actions good or bad. It'll be a formidable task for me as I spent most of my working life, except for eight years as a home builder, administering HUD-funded programs in various states.
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MattR
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No. I will fight my fight. Wear your blinders, it doesn't matter to me.
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spiderjohn
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Blinders? Hardly, and wouldn't expect my thinking to matter to you.
Fight your fight--no matter my way either, though wondering what it is that you can possibly "win" and what would be the cost. Thank you again for the info provided here--keep it coming! No disrespect, Nelson--just trying to move forward somehow |
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