Kettering Medical Denial

Journal story today about the Planning Committee denying Kettering Medical a plan to develop more medical facilities out by Atrium Hospital. Story says the thinking has changed as to what was initially proposed. Kettering has spent some bucks knocking down a hotel with asbestos already. It was suppose to be an out patient type of operation but there is a question about it going to a full blown hospital.

Protecting Atrium from competition perhaps? Story says Atrium contributes to the Middletown community (and therefore must be protected
against competition I guess) Can't make a city contributor angry.

On the other hand, with that decision, aren't they denying medical patients freedom of choice and additional medical facilities in which to choose?

Which way do we go? Keep Atrium competition away and protect a contributor and the drawing power it has for other surrounding medical services or give people choices for their medical care? Competition is suppose to be a healthy thing in business isn't it?

Other considerations include the additional jobs and revenue that would be created with the Kettering facility in place.

All of this goes before council for their decision. Will they choose wisely or will they keep their inept track record in tact?

Given the lack of decent paying jobs in this city, do we turn down these types of opportunities for growth?

"They didn't deny the plan or the building, they denied the rezoning of the property. The building and original use were previously approved. Kettering wanted to rezone the land to allow for additional use."

Ok, sw, bottom line is it ain't gonna happen for Kettering as they had planned.

My healthcare accepted Kettering but not Premiere
That could be an issue for many
Think about those needing health care
Maybe make both options available?

The connected big hitters showed up for Atrium

Typical small town thinking.  When will this city (well, its leaders at the very least) come to the realization that this city NEEDS all the business and expansion it can get to create jobs, which create revenue for the city, to get it back on its feet?

That's the right thing to do - well, that and actually voicing it to council at the meeting.  Make your voice heard!

According to the following 9-19-2017 city council meeting agenda, as posted unusually late this morning, the much-discussed Kettering Hospital zoning matter will not be considered at this time.

FINALLY the agenda and workbook for the 9/19/2017 council meeting was posted one day in advance!

WOW, can you hear the grinding of the wheels of progress in our so called “fair” city?

All the better to avoid having to give any notice of something that may be objectionable to the citizens who might wish to discuss whys and wherefores of predetermined acceptance/rejection of legislation which will of course NOT be discussed by council in the meeting. The “Sunshine Law” is again set on it’s head and totally ignored!

Also let’s examine this occurrence and use of executive session and the reason for it.

Quote from agenda for 9/19/17:

EXECUTIVE SESSION

Under the authority of O.R.C. 121.22 (G) (2) To consider the purchase of property for public purposes, or for the sale of property at competitive bidding, if premature disclosure of information would give an unfair competitive or bargaining advantage

Since we can not trust council to give adequate, or at times, ANY opportunity for input or discussion in public sessions why should we trust that they are not going to discuss, in executive session, ANY “sensitive” issues they want to hide from public view (like the Kettering rezoning) in addition to those that are announced ? Or behind closed doors, use undue pressure on any council members who might not be in agreement (on Kettering rezoning?) with the “powers that be”?

Has anyone else taken note that the City of Middletown website has expunged the minutes records from 9/5/17 all the way down to 8/15/2017? Will they claim this is inadvertent? The missing minutes just happen to include some real discussion (however brief) about Bar Boca. That discussion still exists on YouTube! OOPS, I shouldn’t have mentioned that … they can erase any “undesirable” part of that too, at their discretion!!! It’s happened before and was noted on this forum. Remember the snickering about a very late executive session being beyond someone’s bedtime? That was removed. That was the only instance that was found. There could be more. Question: Who handles YouTube videos for council?

whistlersmom wrote: Has anyone else taken note that the City of Middletown website has expunged the minutes records from 9/5/17 all the way down to 8/15/2017? Will they claim this is inadvertent? The missing minutes just happen to include some real discussion (however brief) about Bar Boca. That discussion still exists on YouTube! OOPS, I shouldn’t have mentioned that … they can erase any “undesirable” part of that too, at their discretion!!! It’s happened before and was noted on this forum. Remember the snickering about a very late executive session being beyond someone’s bedtime? That was removed. That was the only instance that was found. There could be more. Question: Who handles YouTube videos for council?

Critical remarks are expected and appreciated. I’m happy to see that attention is being paid to this forum and that corrections are offered when thought to be needed.

However, and I could be wrong, I thought that the minutes had been posted and were taken down because I read (somewhere) the comments and questions that Mr Moon made concerning Bar Boca, and Mr Bohannon’s “abstain” on the vote for the purchase. I don’t see those quoted from the 9/5/2017 council meeting, in the Journal News. Tell me … anyone else …were Mr Moon’s comments quoted in the Journal? Where else could it have been in print?

My sincere apologies if I’m incorrect! It is not my intention to cause more problems, but to bring attention to problems that need solutions.