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    Posted: Dec 23 2009 at 3:56pm
lots of folks around here know about John Tytus and the continuous mill.

Armco invented it enough to license it then made a lot of money from it.

another rolling mill was invented in Middletown in the 1940s for which few are aware.

the inventor, a Polish engineer, left town after WW2 and built an industry around this mill in another state.

the reasons he left in the 1940s are still with us today: Middletown's Midwestern provincialism.

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there are still a few around who know the significance of rolling steel into continuous coils. Tytus led the project after spending his early days around the family paper mill in Middletown. he declined to stay in the family business and started at the American Rolling Mill Company. he wondered why steel couldn't be rolled like paper in a continuous process. the handling of individual sheets seemed so inefficient and brutal.

but the rollers were the kings of the mill;  there are photos of a few rolling mill crews on display at the Marco's pizza restaurant in the Middletown Shopping Center on Breiel Blvd.

the next post will discuss how the kings were toppled by technology. in the meantime, try to remember how cars refrigerators and washing machines looked before the mid-1930s.

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very interesting!!! I would love to learn more.
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it's rare for change in a manufacturing process to have such a profound effect on the culture of a nation and the world but that's what the continuous rolling of steel had on the US in the 1930s.

prior to rolling steel flat into coils - coils so often seen on the flat bed trailers of trucks and trains leaving Middletown today - steel was rolled flat, one small sheet at a time. there were many rolling crews pulling ingots from furnaces and passing them back and forth to each other on a single stand mill.

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Each sheet from each mill had small but significant differences in dimension - variations in thickness were particularly vexing for automobile and appliance makers. Think of big body parts on cars of the 1940s vs. the 1930s - imagine the look of the engine hood with hinged cowlings and the later broad, flat hoods we're familiar with today.

Each roller ran his crew - the company paid him as a contractor - and he paid the assistant roller, the finisher, the assistant finisher, the pusher and the helpers. the Roller was one of  the highest paid employees in steel making and commanded the respect of an artisan. this was true in Middletown as well as the rest of the industrialized world.

but Armco's continuous mill changed all that.

next post will discuss how the son of a Middletown paper maker and his men transformed the manufacturing world.
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a prominent citizen of Middletown often cites his father's experience with Tytus' mill and the effect it had on his family in his writings. his father was a roller, recruited to come to Middletown to join a mill that dared put roller together with melters, that put rolling mills together with an open hearth furnace.

When Tytus' mill began operating , many of the rollers were re-assigned but a few didn't like the new status and left. our local protagonist's dad was one of those that left but his timing was poor - he quit just before 1929 changed the economic landscape from lush to barren. the story goes that the fall was tremendous. the family suffered greatly.

but the effect that  Tytus' mill had on the steel industry - and as a consequence automobile and appliance industries - can't be overstated. changes in technology drive changes in culture.

this all occurred after Armco had already made significant contributions to the development of electrical steel - the core of transformers and generators - in both products and processes. taken for granted today, the distribution of electric power is one of the greatest technological developments of the 20th century. the development of electrical steel is yet another example of MIddletown's prominent place in America's Industrial Revolution.

to this day, AK Steel is by far the largest domestic producer of electrical grades of steel.

the next post will introduce the Polish engineer and how America's need for radar on aircraft just before WW2 humbled the genius of the continuous mill.
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Just after World War 1, about the time that Tytus and Charlie Hook were convincing George Verity to invest some money into the continuous mill concept - a young Polish engineer was in Shanghai China working on a galvanizing line that dipped steel fencing into molten zinc.

Tad Sendzimir figured out that a hydrogen atmosphere as steel was heated before dipping reduced spots of corrosion that inhibited good adhesion and significantly lengthened the life of the fence. Sendzimir invented the method of hydrogen galvanizing.

His expertise at coating steel with zinc was the main reason Armco pursued him in the late 1930s to come to Middletown. Tad came but was done with galvanizing. He expressed an interest to build a new kind of rolling mill. Tytus, by now the head of rolling at Armco, thought of his mill was a toy.

Sendzimir wasn't getting the kind of response Tytus got from Hook and Verity but Anson Hayes - then director of Armco Research, thought it was at least worth a try. It was about this time that a big customer came calling looking for steel real thin and real flat.

It was Westinghouse and they wanted new dimensions for electrical steel necessary for a newly invented device - a device that today is in almost every American kitchen - a magnetron.

Doc Hayes was summoned to give advice on the new requirements for a product that Armco practically invented. At this time, electrical or silicon steel was still rolled the old fashioned way - by hand on a single stand mill. Armco hadn't figured out how to roll such a brittle product on a continuous mill let alone roll it extremely flat and just 0.002 inch thick.

Why 0.002 in. thick? That's the dimension MIT's Radiation Laboratory was demanding to make aircraft mounted radar.  The British had just invented the magnetron and the War Department was funding a project to find a manufacturer. MIT asked their electrical steel supplier Westinghouse to help. Westinghouse went to Doc Hayes who said "it can't be done - but we have this Polish engineer who thinks he's got a mill that can."

Fast forward to 1992 and Armco, Incorporated of Parsippany NJ announces the acquisition of Empire Detroit Steel with plants in Mansfield, Dover and Coshocton, Ohio. The jewel was Coshocton Stainless - a non-union plant full of Z-mills - the industry shortened term for the Sendzirmir Mill.

next post will discuss the reasons Tad Sendzimir left Middletown to start his industry in another state, an industry still alive and working today.





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You're my favorite poster now, keep this up and thank you!
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I find this info quite interesting as well.
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My grandfather (who raised me) was a 4 High Temper Mill Roller in West Processing from 1922 until 1968 with 46 years at Armco. He was paid at Zone 24, the highest paid position prior to going to foreman. They offered him the foreman's job several times and, using grandpa's colorful steel mill language, he told them where they could "stick the formen's job" and things like" do you think I want to be walking around here all day with my finger stuck ..........?". As I remember, he had a crew of around 4 or 5 people including a "feeder" who was ahead of the 4 High mill to the "catcher" who wound the tempered rolled steel back into a coil. His name was William Stillwaugh...."Stilly" on his hardhat......and he worked for a superintendent named Charlie Boxwell. The names might ring a bell with you Mike.... don't know.
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I love Middletown history.  This is very good stuff.  Keep it coming.
 
 
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