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Journal Article-June 29-Page B9

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Topic: Journal Article-June 29-Page B9
Posted By: VietVet
Subject: Journal Article-June 29-Page B9
Date Posted: Jun 29 2008 at 1:49pm
School achievement lacking. Article states that lack of discipline/ lowering standards just to pass kids/ curriculum not in touch with college and working world are problems with more than half of parents asked. Yet, I would bet, that if you placed this article in front of some of the teachers, administrators and the superintendent of the Middletown schools,there would be denial. The information in the article says that the colleges and employers are getting an inferior product, lacking even the basics to begin.Why is this happening? Perhaps the colleges, employers, parents and the high school teachers/administration could communicate and arrive at a workable solution to improve this situation. It would appear, at this point, that none of these groups are talking to each other nor care to address the problem collectively. Could the ego of each group be getting in the way of fixing this problem? Is there a program in place to allow dialogue between these people? If not, why not? This occuring, of course, as the educational levels of other countries is excelling.Better not ignore this or serious long term effects for this country will occur. It's happening now as our students are no longer keeping up with other cultures as to educational abilities.



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Posted By: Middletown News
Date Posted: Jun 30 2008 at 3:31pm
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/09/education/09education.html - It Takes More Than Schools to Close Achievement Gap - New York Times
Higher rates of lead poisoning, asthma and inadequate pediatric care also fuel low achievement, along with something as basic as the lack of eyeglasses. ...


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Posted By: Pacman
Date Posted: Jun 30 2008 at 6:06pm
Gee Jonathan when I was in school we had all of these things and much more and most of my generation came out of it ok.
 
1))  We had discipline and respected all of the school teachers and officials.

2)  We didn't have special programs setup to just teach 50 kids who may drop out of school. We were expected to perform up to a certain standard to pass and if we didn't there were consequences.

3)  We were not taught to just take a test and pass.
 
4)  We did not have No child left behind which is an impossible standard to live and teach by.
 
5)  We didn't have students and parents sueing schools over not liking Peanut Butter and Jelly sandwiches.
 
5)  We didn't have to have Police Officers Patrol the halls.
 
6)  What we did have was the Paddle and it got your attention.Tongue
 
Get back to the basics, as in some discipline and respect and you will have a better school system, continue on as Middletown is and you will have a failed system as we do now.
 
 
 
 


Posted By: VietVet
Date Posted: Jun 30 2008 at 10:06pm
There are just as many, (if not more), programs today than years ago, to help the folks who can't afford eyeglasses, provide pediatric care and most of the lead has been removed from the schools as new schools have been built and the old ones torn down that contained the lead.Does this article from the New York Times explain how the school performance was better years ago, without all of these programs as opposed to today's packed aid programs, yet poorer performance? The real difference was that years ago, the students respected the school officials and the parents and there was a price to be paid if they stepped out of line. Now, both the schools and the parents have removed the discipline equation and the kids know it. There is no price to be paid for not performing and standards have been drastically lowered.The kids laugh at the system now.


Posted By: HereIam
Date Posted: Jul 01 2008 at 11:26am
I agree with Pacman - get back to the basics.  Stop all this handling every child with kid gloves.  Discipline is the best educator.  I'm not advocating beating or abuse, but prompt, strict and enforced discipline is the best way to get a child to understand and respect their educators. 



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