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Vivian Moon
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Posted: Feb 09 2015 at 1:48pm |
Updated: 12:28 p.m.
Monday, Feb. 9, 2015 | Posted: 11:19 a.m. Monday, Feb. 9, 2015 Moraine,
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Mike_Presta
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Ohhhh, we got trouble!
Yeahhhh, we got trouble! And that starts with "T"... And that rhymes with "P"... And that stands for POT!!! |
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“Mulligan said he ... doesn’t believe they necessarily make the return on investment necessary to keep funding them.” …The Middletown Journal, January 30, 2012
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Vivian Moon
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See Mike...they really do have an ED Plan for the city.
Yes sir...them boys at City Hall will have people just running over each other to get to Middletown... |
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Vivian Moon
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Posted: 6:57 p.m.
Monday, Feb. 9, 2015 Group proposes one of 10 pot grow sites in
Middletown
Indoor facility could be
located on 40 acres near Yankee and Todhunter roads
By Laura A. Bischoff and Michael D. Pitman Forty acres of land in ResponsibleOhio released a 24-page summary
of the ballot language that identifies where each of 10 grow sites will be.
Investors bought or arranged purchase options on the 10 sites. Those locations include two adjoining,
20-acre parcels owned by Trenton-based Magnode Corporation near Yankee and
Todhunter roads in News that “I think it’s a terrible idea,” said Butler
County Commissioner Don Dixon. “I would not support any part of it, and I think
sometimes I question the sanity of people who can present that, convince people
that that’s good for people in our community. It’s not, in any way, shape or
form. It’s the beginning of a lot of
bad things that could happen.” State Rep. Tim Derickson, R-Hanover Twp.,
said he’s a big proponent of economic development throughout the county “but
this is not exactly what I had in mind.” Monday’s announcement by ResponsibleOhio
comes on the heels of the city of Hamilton’s proposal
to preemptively ban medical marijuana sales within the city. A public hearing is scheduled for
Wednesday’s City Council meeting to address zoning ordinance changes affecting
medical marijuana sales. Butler County Sheriff Richard Jones said he
doesn’t support attempts to legalize medical marijuana sales and will actively
“campaign against it.” “I’m going to be very boisterous,” Jones
said. “I have the bully pulpit and I’m going to use it.” “Other states that have had it … (and are)
trying to re-think it,” he said of marijuana legalization. “Why not have
medical heroin and medical cocaine? Where does it stop?” Jones called marijuana a gateway drug that
can lead to a more serious addiction. “We have enough issues, and it’s a slippery
slope,” he said. “It’s a little bag of weed and they start smoking that … and
where it ends up is my jail being full of people that do this drug.” Martin Bidwill, president/CEO of Magnode
Corporation, said the two parcels in Bidwill said about a month ago, he was
approached by a potential, unidentified buyer via a “But we were never told who the buyer is,
and we still don’t know to this day,” Bidwill said. He added that as long as
the buyer buys the land legally, and should marijuana become legalized in “We’ll just let it play out,” Bidwill
said. “I have no right to say anything in regards to a legal status of a
company.” When asked if he would want a legal grow
site near his facilities, Bidwill said he wasn’t sure. “I would have to get more information, such
as whether there are increased crime rates in those areas or not,” he said. Middletown Mayor Larry Mulligan said that
while a number of people have expressed concern about the legalization of
marijuana, “I think we’ve got more work to do on this.” Mulligan hasn’t spoken with the city
administration “on what approach we should take” on the topic. “I would probably share (the) concerns (of
other elected officials), but I’ve also learned that it’s difficult with state
law sometimes what our local control may or may not be in these situations,”
Mulligan said. Several companies directly abut the
property along Granger currently employs about 27 people,
and Cravens said they have had trouble finding legitimate candidates over the
past two or three years. He said the company has had significant trouble hiring
from “I run a drug-free program…and I have a
hard enough time hiring as it is, so what happens when marijuana becomes legal
and everyone is smoking the stuff,” he said. Derickson said he’s spoken with many
employers over the years, specifically concerning workforce development needs,
and many of them have told him it’s hard to find employees that can pass a drug
test. “This effort would certainly not help, I
think, our employers find employees that can pass a drug test,” he said. Other counties that will host grow sites
include: Clermont, Franklin, The Chris Stock of ResponsibleOhio, the
campaign to legalize pot, said each grow site will start with a
100,000-square-foot state-of-the-art buildings that would eventually triple in
size. But before the first cannabis seed is
planted, ResponsibleOhio must get its ballot summary language approved by
Attorney General Mike DeWine and then get the nod from the Ohio Ballot Board that the proposal covers just one
issue. Once it clears those hurdles, ResponsibleOhio must collect 305,600 valid
signatures from registered If ResponsibleOhio wins at every step of
the way, “We are excited to have the ballot language
out there because it gives us all an opportunity to really talk in terms of
specifics,” Stock said. The proposal shows that “ResponsibleOhio is working
hard to put together a public policy that regulates a multi-billion dollar
industry in a responsible way,” he said. ResponsibleOhio is backed by deep-pocket
investors that include financiers, current and former professional athletes,
real estate developers and others. It is opposed by anti-drug organizations,
five statewide officeholders including Kasich and DeWine, and grassroots marijuana
groups that believe carving out just 10 growing sites will unfairly block
others who want to cultivate cannabis for sale. Sen. Bill Coley, R-Liberty Twp., said it’s
the prerogative of ResponsibleOhio to seek to place an issue on the ballot, but
“it is not anything that the legislature is going to enact.” “The voters will make their determination
on what is best after reviewing the text of the proposed amendment. It’s
nothing that I feel legislation is needed for in the state,” Coley said. “I
respect the fact that there are those who disagree (with my position) and want
to take it the constitutional amendment to the voters.” Coley said he sees this as similar to the
casino amendment, which established four specific sites to permit casinos to be
built. “The voters will have the ultimate say in
what they decide they want to do on it,” he said.
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maybe this is what factguy,smarty Marty, Adkins??? was saying about the city becoming the All-American city by 2020 !! yep i can see that would happen when that passes law, middletown becoming the All-American pot city USA !!! oooh man!!! city will be rich!! and all it took was 40.44 acres of pot to do it!!
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John Beagle
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I love the fact that Viv filed this under Economic Development!
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VietVet
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Things to ponder.....
1. Since this acreage is owned by Magnode, will the end product be part of the benefits package for new or current Magnode employees? 2. When the 40+ acres is planted and growing, how will the security be handled on a 24hr/7 day per week timeline? Will there be armed guards with dogs and security cameras? How about a barbed wire, 20 ft high security fence with guard towers placed in strategic locations? Like Miller Brewery and the taste testers of the beer batches, will there be a quality control lab to test the end product and where can we apply? Will there be a periodic test for warehouse employees and what will be the requirements for harvesting the product as an employee? Will there be a designated area for smoking? Will there be a guard shack to check each employee exiting the facility? Does anyone think the Yankee Rd/Todhunter Rd area may become a more "active" location after this is put in place? Dunno. |
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Vivian Moon
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I love the fact that Viv filed this under Economic Development!
Yes sir Mr. Beagle them boys at City Hall are going to show them people in Monroe, Mason and West Chester what ED is all about. City Hall will make more money off this little 40 acre green spot than all those other places put together. Yep we're are going to be NUMBER ONE AGAIN! |
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Historic House Guy
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These are indoor growing sites.
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Vivian Moon
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Mr Beagle I thought this subject matter belonged under Economic Development because every feasibility study in recent years for Middletown have all said the same thing...."Middletown needs a major draw".
Well it looks like they have found it |
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Historic House Guy
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These grow houses won't be selling the drug to the public at all. They will sell to licensed dispensaries all over the state so I don't see this as being a draw for any town with a growing area. It will bring some jobs and some income in the form of taxes to the city.
Other than that, I don't see it as being all that good or bad for the city. This proposal won't allow people to grow it without a license either.
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Vivian Moon
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Updated: 8:45 p.m.
Tuesday, Feb. 10, 2015 | Posted: 8:42 p.m. Tuesday, Feb. 10, 2015 Adkins: Pot farm ‘sends absolutely the wrong
message’ about
By Ed Richter Staff Writer City officials and residents say building
an indoor facility to grow pot in Forty acres of land along “I think it hurts our development of the
area and sends absolutely the wrong message of what Vice Mayor Joe Mulligan said city officials
would “take appropriate steps to protect our residents and business owners.” He
then added: “This gives us another reason to vote against the proposal at the
ballot box.” Adkins said city administration will be
reviewing all of its options and discussing the matter with Middletown City
Council for policy input. He said this topic “will get a lot of attention
between now and election time.” One Councilman Tim Naab said the proposed
zoning changes are part of a plan “to bring logical, common-sense rationale for
Hamilton Mayor Pat Moeller said he needed
to become more educated on the issues ahead of any statewide legislation in
November and wanted to remind people that “this is a zoning issue that’s set
for (Wednesday), this is not a public hearing for legalization.” But even if “You already see people driving around with
the windows pulled up and smoking cigarettes with two, three car seats in the
back,” Brown said. “In my opinion, I could see the same thing happening with
marijuana, and my heart goes out to those children.” The proposed site in The two combined parcels, totalling 40
acres, are valued at $606,680 according to the Butler County Auditor’s Office. Denise Hamet, the city’s economic
development director, said she was unaware of any interest by anyone to
purchase the land or an option. Some of the city’s prime industrial areas are
located near the property, including the MADE Industrial Park, SunCoke and AK
Steel. “The proposed use would pull the site off
the market for six months, reducing the supply of available land in a key
development area,” Hamet said. Many “Who wants that in their face,” said
Margaret Jenkins, whose home sits across the road from the proposed “I’m definitely voting it down,” he said.
“My life is much too valuable, and it’s much too dangerous to have here.” Irene Hunter, 81, of Liberty Twp., said she
is concerned about any move to legalize marijuana in “All of the kids in our area started on
that little bag of pot, and now they’re onto the big needle,” Hunter said.
“I’ve been through living hell with my family because of marijuana. We’ve been threatened and robbed because of
it; it’s right in our neighborhood and no one will do anything about it.” Middletown Councilman Dan Picard said a
marijuana growing facility would make it that much harder for the city to
attract industrial development and the reputation it would bring to the city
would be “outrageous.” He also called it “ridiculous how close it is to the “I think its a horrible, terrible idea, and
I hope this doesn’t pass or come to fruition,” Picard said. “It makes no sense
to me.” Naab, of Hamilton City Council, said he
read with interest about “privately purchased parcels, statewide, for potential
growing sites.” He said he “would suggest many opponents to these acquisitions
will prevail in their not-in-my-backyard battle cry.” He said he believed marijuana legalization
in “Lobbyists for this plan, no matter how
well funded, whether incorporating medical or recreational pitch for
legalization, will not be successful in pursuit of initiating their beliefs in
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VietVet
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So Adkins thinks that this pot farm will send the "wrong message about Middletown" Seriously Douggie?
So does your claim about Middletown being 54% poverty stricken. So does placing the welcome mat out for increased HUD vouchers and escalating the Section 8 program to encompass 2.5 times the vouchers we are suppose to have. So does driving off some long-time prominent people, as well as others, who have had enough of the nonsense and reducing the city population. So does enhancing the poor town image by making this city a magnet for low income. So does helping the schools drop in performance and reputation by bringing in all the people who don't care if their kids get an education or not. So does demolishing everything in sight and leaving large tracts of empty spaces creating a scene resembling desolation from a war movie. So does concentrating only on the downtown while the rest of the city is left unattended. So does creating a situation for property owners in which their property is almost worthless as no one wants to locate here. So does taxing the hell out of the citizens to make up for the lost revenue from companies that have gone out of business or packed up and left and not replacing any of them. So does having an inept government with an agenda that only caters to a select few and continuously lying to the people or operating with hidden agendas. So does creating a job market that offers only low paying service jobs in retail, fast food and hospitality. So does having the worst roads of any city around here. So does wasting taxpayer money on projects that are continual losers and benefit only a small percentage of the city population. So does raising the crime rate and drug usage rate by inviting that element to town who practice those activities. So does reducing the safety services for the citizens because you just can't get your budget adjusted to account for the basics. All of these things listed, you had no problem creating. I would think the pot farm is the least of your worries right now. |
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Right on V.V.
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TonyB
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Obviously, the people of ResponsibleOhio didn't talk to Mr. Adkins or anyone else before they put their plan together. I wonder who came up with the idea of using Middletown as a grow sight and who would have given them a "thumbs-up" to make such a public announcement. The only reason I wouldn't vote for this proposal is that it places a monopoly on marijuana in the state constitution. You as a private citizen couldn't grow it and could only buy it at a "state store". I also don't know what the status of industrial hemp would be under this proposal.
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Vivian Moon
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Posted: 2:45 p.m.
Tuesday, Feb. 17, 2015 Ohioans could grow marijuana at home under new
plan
Home growers would be allowed to legally
cultivate up to four marijuana plants for personal use under a revised ballot
proposal from ResponsibleOhio, the group pushing for a constitutional amendment
to make pot legal in The group announced Tuesday that it would
submit a re-drafted proposal to Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine later this
month that would include the following changes: Adults ages 21 and older could obtain a
license to grow marijuana at home; Households
would be limited to four plants; Marijuana purchased at licensed retailers
would be taxed at 5 percent, down from 15 percent as originally proposed; ResponsibleOhio, which is backed by
deep-pocketed investors and an experienced political consulting team, wants to
ask voters in November to change the state constitution to legalize marijuana
for medicinal and recreational purposes. The group has identified 10 locations
for indoor growing facilities, including in Since the group is re-drafting the ballot
proposal, the sites could change. The city of The new home grow provisions are modeled
after “ResponsibleOhio’s
plan will allow those over 21 to grow their own marijuana for personal use, but
forbid their sale of marijuana to the public,” said ResponsibleOhio spokeswoman
Lydia Bolander in a written statement. “We believe that like alcohol, marijuana
can be used safely and should be tightly regulated. Adults over 21 years of age
are legally permitted to brew their own beer, but they aren’t permitted to sell
it. Our amendment will allow limited and tightly regulated home grow of
marijuana, but like home brewing, individuals will not be allowed to sell to
the public.”
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Historic House Guy
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Just found out about the change today Viv. I'll back them now. Where do I sign?
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Vivian Moon
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Well House Guy
I do believe it will be a very long line for you to sign up so you better pack a lunch... |
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Trotwood
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The need for that is long gone... sign an online petition! That's what I'll be doing to support this proposal.
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TonyB
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I still cannot support this proposal because it still establishes a monopoly for marijuana in the state constitution. You have to have a license to grow individually and are only permitted 4 plants. Seems like the perfect situation for "Big Brother" to enter your residence without a warrant. The backers of this are the ones who are going to get rich and it will do little to alleviate the strain on law enforcement over marijuana. I'm for legalization but not like this.
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Vivian Moon
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Posted: 5:35 p.m. Friday,
Feb. 20, 2015
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VietVet
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Middletown officials are trying to stop this? Why? Goes right along with the ghetto druggie scene they have created with the low income Section 8 invites to town. Growing grass here actually accentuates the "positives" as we have successfully been labeled a dying city with an additional slum flavor thrown in by our dear leaders.
I like this from Leslie Landen..... “We were clearly disappointed when this got dropped on us,” Landen said. “After we decide what we can do, we then need to decide what makes the best sense to us.” Well Les babes, we're a tad bit disappointed that YOU and your buddies got "dropped on us" too, but, right now there ain't too much we can do about it is there. What "makes the best sense to us" is if you and your buddies leave town. |
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Trotwood
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Monroe seems like a better fit than Middletown.
I'd be willing to bet they would welcome the farm with open arms.
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Paul Nagy
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It is important that we all unite to oppose this effort to grow marijuana in Middletown. A number of valid reasons have already been cited to prevent this atrocity and we should heed the warnings. However, there is a deeper reason for opposing this evil effort. Think about all of the children whose lives hae been ruined from marijuana. Their parents start out with it and then they go to other drugs and destroy their families and abuse their children. There is hardly a family that is not contaminated by this scourge now. We pay the damages. At taxpayer expense the courts are overloaded from the results of using marijuana. Judges have to be paid, prosecutors have to be paid, defense attorneys have to be paid, victim's advocates have to be paid, children services case workers have to be paid. In the mean time children who did not ask to be brought into this world are abused and suffer. We must do everything we can to prevent children suffering. What future does it hold for them?
The idea of growing marijuana for medical and recreational purposes is phony. It is all about money. Those who are fostering this type of effort don't care about the harm they do to others and society in general, They care about making money. They are drug pushers and gangsters who seek to hide under a cloak of respectability by trying to legalize marijuana and other drugs and immoral acts. Your vote in favor is a vote against harmless children and society. You become just as guilty as the illegal pusher. I'm proud of our city leaders and the strong stand they are taking against this effort. This is one time I can support them whole heartily and I will continue to do so. I hope you will too. Paul Nagy |
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