All America City

Imo it is always groundhog day here in every sense

spiderjohn, one of the great aspects of living in Middletown is you can build a castle surrounded by water, drive 4 hrs to Chicago, 1.5 hrs to Lexington, Indy, or in 20 minutes escape to Cincinnati. There's great college sports 20-30 minutes away, the arts in either Dayton or Cincinnati, love Fraze and Aronoff, and check out of the groundhog day activities each day.  

Please read the Agenda for 2-03-2015...The HUD CONSOLIDATED PLAN
And then tell me again about the All American City of 2020

Same boat you are in. House valued less than it was 25 years ago, pay nearly 550 Kk on insurance rebuild while tax value a fraction. 

I think its great that so many people on this site have great OPINIONS/IDEAS about all subjects city related.  Why don't all of you get out from behind your computer monitors and get in touch with Mr. Adkins and let him know how you the tax paying citizens of Middletown can solve all of the currant/future problems.

Maybe we need new leadership!

MIDDPROUD wrote: We all know the roads are bad,

Trotwood: it would cost more in funds to destroy/ remove lanes, than to maintain what exists presently. The traffic on Breihel, Roosevelt, University, and all major multiple lane roads in the city adequately meet the daily demands of traffic.

OR.....maybe we need to follow the law and use the funds for their intended purpose and fix the streets.

Factguy wrote: Trotwood: it would cost more in funds to destroy/ remove lanes, than to maintain what exists presently. The traffic on Breihel, Roosevelt, University, and all major multiple lane roads in the city adequately meet the daily demands of traffic.

Oxford and it's bike riding on residential streets certainly seems to work...for Oxford with it's tranquil college town atmosphere and slower traffic speed. Middletown....not so sure it's a good match to have bike riders that close to faster moving traffic here. The town's don't match in the bike riding aspect. Middletown has the bike trail along the river making it safer for the bikers.

For a historical perspective, Grand Ave. use to be a two lane road in the 50's. I was living on Grand back then with the grandparents around the Dorset/Kensington St. areas. During that time, they made Grand a 4 lane road past where we lived out to the freeway and made the Armco truck route over on Roosevelt the main route to Wicoff. Grand use to be the truck route taken down to the Wicoff gate and the truck traffic was bad back then on Grand. Grand, when a two lane highway, use to go straight out to the freeway as you went past Marshall Rd. and was the only way out of town as Roosevelt and Grand never intersected as they do now.

An example of boulevard ease of travel, University Blvd. makes it much quicker to go from say....MUM to Woodside Cemetery. Following University and bearing south on University, you would turn right after the old Garfield school site to get to the cemetery. Relatively easy. Before, it would take some time to drive from these two points from the north/northeast side of town (MUM) to the south side (Woodside). The boulevard concept is widely used in cities such as Tucson as most major roads are three lanes a side with nicely done cactus and other desert vegetation with colored rocks in the median separation. I believe other western cities share this concept too.

Trotwood: I'm confused; were you a resident of Middletown, or are you currently a resident? The reason I ask is that you don't understand the reason for Reinartz overpass. No one would "bat an eye" if we shut down Reinartz" except for emergency vehicles trying to cross the railroad tracks to get to the hospital (they still use Reinartz to get to Atrium), or get to a fire on the other side of the tracks. There are many trains that still pass through Middletown. Police use the overpass all the time to get from city hall to the other side of the tracks. All of the roads that you mention (except maybe Lefferson) are excellent ways to get around town. Now if you were arguing about "adding" a lane to the boulevard system, that would be a different issue. But to eliminate a lane on the streets that you mentioned (just to add a bike lane, and THEN not pave that area doesn't make sense.   just 1chmoore.

Factguy...the UHC move was decided prior to your Jan 28 post and Middletown was not a serious contender.